tren cough

1. Doubt it lol, just scary but not overly dangerous unless you really shove a bunch into a vein
2. No, it’s the result of putting oil into a vein by nicking it on the way in or out
 
1. Doubt it lol, just scary but not overly dangerous unless you really shove a bunch into a vein
2. No, it’s the result of putting oil into a vein by nicking it on the way in or out
any ways to prevent it? I thought it was a normal cough until i watched a youtube video of a guy looking like he was about to die from it.

first pin today in VG, didnt feel the cough. hope i dont get it.
 
any ways to prevent it? I thought it was a normal cough until i watched a youtube video of a guy looking like he was about to die from it.

first pin today in VG, didnt feel the cough. hope i dont get it.
Yeah, don’t pin in blood flow heavy areas. It happens to everyone periodically.
 
I’ve played with more tren than I probably should have, and I’ve literally never had tren cough. Now granted I don’t inject in places with lots of veins, I’m pretty careful about placement, and it’s generally mixed with other compounds, but still. Most I’ve ever had is once I got a tickle in the back of my throat.

edit, I’ve never had tren cough YET, knock on wood lol
 
I’ve played with more tren than I probably should have, and I’ve literally never had tren cough. Now granted I don’t inject in places with lots of veins, I’m pretty careful about placement, and it’s generally mixed with other compounds, but still. Most I’ve ever had is once I got a tickle in the back of my throat.

edit, I’ve never had tren cough YET, knock on wood lol
Where do u inject
 
srs questions

1. can you die from? ive got minor asthma if that matters

2. does it always happen after injecting?
This seems like the way to prevent it, this can occur with Testosterone Undeconate. (Nebido)

Method of administration

For intramuscular use.

The injections must be administered very slowly (over two minutes). Nebido is strictly for intramuscular injection. Care should be taken to inject Nebido deeply into the gluteal muscle following the usual precautions for intramuscular administration. Special care must be taken to avoid intravasal injection (see section 4.4 under “Application”).


I think this is the same thing....

Occurrence of Pulmonary Oil Microembolism After Testosterone Undecanoate Injection:​

During the 4.3-year period, 90,092 doses of intramuscular testosterone undecanoate were distributed via an Aveed Risk Evaluation and Mitigation Strategy program to health-care professionals for patient treatment. Of 633 individual case safety reports in the Endo Pharmaceuticals Inc safety database, 28 spontaneously reported adverse events were classified as POME, for a yearly spontaneously reported adverse event per-injection rate of <0.1%. Most (21/22) events resolved, and of those with a resolution time reported, most (13/17) resolved in ≤30 minutes. More than 60% (13/21) of patients required no medical intervention (ie, the POME event resolved spontaneously). One fatality was reported 18 months after a documented POME event and appeared unrelated to the reported testosterone undecanoate injection or subsequent injections after the POME event. In 3 out of 4 POME cases with symptoms serious enough to require an emergency room visit, issues with injection technique or dosing were identified as a potential contributing factor.

Clinical Implications​

Injection technique and proper product usage are key elements in the prevention of POME events.

Conclusion​

POME events appear to be rare, with resolution occurring quickly without medical intervention in most cases.

As with all oily solutions, Nebido must be injected strictly intramuscularly and very slowly (over two minutes). Pulmonary microembolism of oily solutions can in rare cases lead to signs and symptoms such as cough, dyspnoea, malaise, hyperhidrosis, chest pain, dizziness, paraesthesia, or syncope. These reactions may occur during or immediately after the injection and are reversible. The patient should therefore be observed during and immediately after each injection in order to allow for early recognition of possible signs and symptoms of pulmonary oily microembolism. Treatment is usually supportive, e.g. by administration of supplemental oxygen.
 
@Cherokee tren as a compound has a specific effect that may cause you to cough immediate after injection not related to an oil embolism. I've experienced it, but only with the acetate version. I've never heard of it happening unless it was acetate or suspension. You need to get a bunch of it all at once in the blood steam.

Way back when I always thought it had to do with something in the fina pellet conversion kits but some people think it has to do with its effect on prostaglandin. It's never been studied so we don't know. It doesn't kill cattle though.

@LivingShadow if it happens the first time it will probably happen every time, and it would not be a bad idea to pre-medicate with albuterol at least 5 minutes before injection (it takes 5 minutes to work.) If your asthma is severe you might have been prescribed an epi pen or prednisone to have on hand in case you have an episode too.
 
Glute, ventroglute, and delt. I’ve never done quad, it seems like half the injection problems I hear come from pinning quads.
You don’t inject where there are alot of veins, WTF! Do you see my shoulder? There’s a lot of veins there. Here’s what you need to do, keep your mouth shut when you don’t know what your talking about. Your giving bad advice. It’s inevitable, you will get Tren cough sooner or later.
 

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@Cherokee tren as a compound has a specific effect that may cause you to cough immediate after injection not related to an oil embolism. I've experienced it, but only with the acetate version. I've never heard of it happening unless it was acetate or suspension. You need to get a bunch of it all at once in the blood steam.

Way back when I always thought it had to do with something in the fina pellet conversion kits but some people think it has to do with its effect on prostaglandin. It's never been studied so we don't know. It doesn't kill cattle though.

@LivingShadow if it happens the first time it will probably happen every time, and it would not be a bad idea to pre-medicate with albuterol at least 5 minutes before injection (it takes 5 minutes to work.) If your asthma is severe you might have been prescribed an epi pen or prednisone to have on hand in case you have an episode too.
You don't think it would help injecting it slowly? Still sounds like people should inject slowly.
 
You don’t inject where there are alot of veins, WTF! Do you see my shoulder? There’s a lot of veins there. Here’s what you need to do, keep your mouth shut when you don’t know what your talking about. Your giving bad advice. It’s inevitable, you will get Tren cough sooner or later.
I’ll clarify, I was more meaning that in that I don’t inject quads, and try to stick to VG when I can. I don’t doubt I’ll get tren cough sooner or later, it’s not like I’m immune or something.
 
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You don't think it would help injecting it slowly? Still sounds like people should inject slowly.
I’ve seen it recommended a lot, either that or to inject a little and wait to see if there’s a reaction before going further. Again I’ve never gotten it so I don’t know if there’s anything to that, but it makes sense to me.
 
You don't think it would help injecting it slowly? Still sounds like people should inject slowly.
Well I think most people use a thin enough needle that it kind of forces them to inject over a couple minutes. I did. No difference.

As for where to inject, I inject every day and never anywhere but the ventroglutes. But also I'm not injecting some crazy amount like 10+ ml oil per week. Sometimes the ventroglutes are a little swollen but it has the least nerves and veins and I'd rather get an abscess there than anywhere else.
 
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