Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate.......

biganth

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I have 200ml of Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate 100mg/ml.Was thinking of using it for 6 weeks in the middle of my current cycle.What injection frequency should i use ? Not much info on this ester! From what i gather,i should be used as a PhenylProp.Anyone have the halflife for this drug? Also,i get puffy /sore nips from Deca/Tren and was thinking of trying Dostinex ( Tried Bromo,makes me feel like shit! ) What dosage should i be using ? Was thinking of the Tren HHBC 100mg Mon / Wed / Fri along with 1mg Dostinex 2 - 3 times per week.Does that sound good to you guys.Currently on 800mg Cyp and 600mg Primo per week.Just finished 4 weeks of Dbol and am starting 6 weeks of Var @ 50mg/day.
 
biganth said:
I have been reading of B6 as of late.What type of dosage should i be using?

I have aslo started on the b6 band wagon, but am not sure of the dosage either. I have read were LuvMuyRoids(sp) says 200mg 3 x a day.
In another thread he says 200mg a day, so I am trying to figure this one out....James
 
biganth said:
I have 200ml of Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate 100mg/ml.Was thinking of using it for 6 weeks in the middle of my current cycle.What injection frequency should i use ? Not much info on this ester! From what i gather,i should be used as a PhenylProp.Anyone have the halflife for this drug? Also,i get puffy /sore nips from Deca/Tren and was thinking of trying Dostinex ( Tried Bromo,makes me feel like shit! ) What dosage should i be using ? Was thinking of the Tren HHBC 100mg Mon / Wed / Fri along with 1mg Dostinex 2 - 3 times per week.Does that sound good to you guys.Currently on 800mg Cyp and 600mg Primo per week.Just finished 4 weeks of Dbol and am starting 6 weeks of Var @ 50mg/day.

Hey biganth, Is that IP's new Tren, he is now offering? That is some expensive shit...James

BTW, I have read, you can also use Vitex at 1gram a day, instead of Bromo to protect against gyno...
 
here is some info on Para for ya bro - may answer some questions.

Parabolan is trenbolone cyclohexylmethylcarbonate.
 
JamesT said:
Hey biganth, Is that IP's new Tren, he is now offering? That is some expensive shit...James

BTW, I have read, you can also use Vitex at 1gram a day, instead of Bromo to protect against gyno...

VITEX IS FOR PROGESTERONE aka'CHASTEL BERRY'. Trenbolone causes prolactin,.why use vitex? :D


fina
 
biganth said:
I have 200ml of Tren HexaHydroBenzyl Carbonate 100mg/ml.Was thinking of using it for 6 weeks in the middle of my current cycle.What injection frequency should i use ? Not much info on this ester! From what i gather,i should be used as a PhenylProp.Anyone have the halflife for this drug? Also,i get puffy /sore nips from Deca/Tren and was thinking of trying Dostinex ( Tried Bromo,makes me feel like shit! ) What dosage should i be using ? Was thinking of the Tren HHBC 100mg Mon / Wed / Fri along with 1mg Dostinex 2 - 3 times per week.Does that sound good to you guys.Currently on 800mg Cyp and 600mg Primo per week.Just finished 4 weeks of Dbol and am starting 6 weeks of Var @ 50mg/day.




No prolactin will not necesarily disappear with the discontinuation of tren. I had prolactin issues over a year ago and went to DR to get blood work done last week and it (prolactin) is still elevated. Dostinex is a sure bet for combatting PROlACTIN problems.and it was recomended by the doc, I know the feeling your having in your nips and it'snot true gyno, it's a build up of prolactin,.So don't start adding VITEX ,it will probably make it worst,.


FINA
 
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B6 is pretty good for prog/prolactin-related gyno. 200mg/day during a cycle, 200mg 3x/day if symptoms appear.
Even prolactin-related gyno rarely presents itself in the absence of a higher than normal estrogen:androgen ratio. Something like nolva can actually be effective at treating prolactin-related gyno issues for this reason.
Proper use of anti e's can solve most all of the world's problems, many even before they start.
 
einstein1905 said:
B6 is pretty good for prog/prolactin-related gyno. 200mg/day during a cycle, 200mg 3x/day if symptoms appear.
Even prolactin-related gyno rarely presents itself in the absence of a higher than normal estrogen:androgen ratio. Something like nolva can actually be effective at treating prolactin-related gyno issues for this reason.
Proper use of anti e's can solve most all of the world's problems, many even before they start.


You have proof?


fina
 
You'll find anecdotal "evidence" in studies showing that it may or may not help, but real-world experience shows it works....and does so pretty well. Lots of people will use B6 at 200mg 3x/day upon prolactin-related gyno symptoms and see the symptoms subside pretty quickly. Keeping estrogen levels in check is another efficient prevention strategy though.


Neurochem Res. 1994 Jun;19(6):687-92. Related Articles, Links


Effects of serotonergic agents on plasma prolactin levels in pyridoxine-deficient adult male rats.

Sharma SK, Dakshinamurti K.

Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Faculty of Medicine, University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Canada.

Plasma concentration of prolactin was significantly reduced in pyridoxine-deficient as compared to control (pyridoxine-supplemented) adult male rats. Administration of pyridoxine to deficient rats resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin. The reduction in plasma prolactin in pyridoxine-deficient rats corresponded with the significantly reduced hypothalamic contents of pyridoxal phosphate and serotonin in pyridoxine-deficient rats. Plasma prolactin concentrations were also measured in response to serotonergic agents in both groups of rats. The administration of the 5HT1A agonist (8-hydroxy 2-n-dipropylamino tetralin) resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin and that of the specific 5HT1A antagonist spiroxatrine had the opposite effect. The results suggest that the hypothalamic serotonergic regulation of prolactin release is impaired in pyridoxine deficiency.
 
einstein1905 said:
You'll find anecdotal "evidence" in studies showing that it may or may not help, but real-world experience shows it works....and does so pretty well. Lots of people will use B6 at 200mg 3x/day upon prolactin-related gyno symptoms and see the symptoms subside pretty quickly. Keeping estrogen levels in check is another efficient prevention strategy though.


Neurochem Res. 1994 Jun;19(6):687-92. Related Articles, Links


Effects of serotonergic agents on plasma prolactin levels in pyridoxine-deficient adult male rats.

Sharma SK, Dakshinamurti K.

Department of Biochemistry and Molecular Biology Faculty of Medicine, University of Manitoba Winnipeg, Canada.

Plasma concentration of prolactin was significantly reduced in pyridoxine-deficient as compared to control (pyridoxine-supplemented) adult male rats. Administration of pyridoxine to deficient rats resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin. The reduction in plasma prolactin in pyridoxine-deficient rats corresponded with the significantly reduced hypothalamic contents of pyridoxal phosphate and serotonin in pyridoxine-deficient rats. Plasma prolactin concentrations were also measured in response to serotonergic agents in both groups of rats. The administration of the 5HT1A agonist (8-hydroxy 2-n-dipropylamino tetralin) resulted in a significant increase in plasma prolactin and that of the specific 5HT1A antagonist spiroxatrine had the opposite effect. The results suggest that the hypothalamic serotonergic regulation of prolactin release is impaired in pyridoxine deficiency.


Ok,first of all let me thank you for your research bro,.

Just hard to believe vitamin b-6 would combat agaisnt prolactin problems,.i read ur report,but it still don't answer my question,.i would like to give it a try,but also would like to be assured that its a true fact not a myth.


fina
 
finafreak said:
Ok,first of all let me thank you for your research bro,.

Just hard to believe vitamin b-6 would combat agaisnt prolactin problems,.i read ur report,but it still don't answer my question,.i would like to give it a try,but also would like to be assured that its a true fact not a myth.


fina


Like I said, you won't likely find any "compelling" studies....just some that suggest pyroxidine may lower serum prolactin levels, but in actuality, many BBers will use B6 to thwart prolactin-related gyno and never need to turn to the more commonly used dopamine agonists like bromo, cabergoline, pergolide, etc.
If you find yourself prone to prolactin-related gyno, try using B6 at 200mg/day to prevent it....cheap, safe, and it'll most likely do the trick. Bromo and the like are too harsh not to at least give B6 a try.
 
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einstein1905 said:
Like I said, you won't likely find any "compelling" studies....just some that suggest pyroxidine may lower serum plasma levels, but in actuality, many BBers will use B6 to thwart prolactin-related gyno and never need to turn to the more commonly used dopamine agonists like bromo, cabergoline, pergolide, etc.
If you find yourself prone to prolactin-related gyno, try using B6 at 200mg/day to prevent it....cheap, safe, and it'll most likely do the trick. Bromo and the like are too harsh not to at least give B6 a try.
GOOD JOB BRO,.I'LL GIVE IT A TRY.


fina
 
einstein1905 said:
Like I said, you won't likely find any "compelling" studies....just some that suggest pyroxidine may lower serum prolactin levels, but in actuality, many BBers will use B6 to thwart prolactin-related gyno and never need to turn to the more commonly used dopamine agonists like bromo, cabergoline, pergolide, etc.
If you find yourself prone to prolactin-related gyno, try using B6 at 200mg/day to prevent it....cheap, safe, and it'll most likely do the trick. Bromo and the like are too harsh not to at least give B6 a try.
thks einstein, i have been researching this as of late, on various boards, and it looks to be promising to say the least, my steer is very sensitive to prolactin-related gyno and i just administerd its first dose of fina, so i am going to give this a try im really hoping that this is a simple answer for prolactin sensitive animals, my steer really loves fina and would hate to loose its best friend.
 
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