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Megapumps1234

Megapumps1234

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Guys, approaching week 8 here using 500mg Test E/wk and 75 mg Tren EOD. I need some advice. My girlfriend cheated on me like 9 months ago by making out with another dude in her graduate program. I revenge cheated, told her, then forgave her and actually she gained my trust back over the last 6 months or so. But, lately, I'm paranoid of every guy that talks to her. I called her 10 times tonight (precise count), and I'm sitting here fucking manic waiting for a response. I did some digging and apparently Tren can exaggerate jealous and anxious tendencies in ppl. Am I taking enough to 'blame' the Tren or am I just losing my shit?

Seriously, not looking for a flame answer here. I'm usually very chill and quiet about jealousy, but it's like I just can't turn it off and the only way to satisfy my itch is to self-destroy (aka call her a bunch like a psycho) I plan on coming off immediately unless I hear otherwise.
 
Less than 300mg a week, a pretty modest dose... I'm guessing this is your first run with tren??

If you think it's the tren just drop it but are you sure something didn't happen to get you thinking about everything that happened in the past again? Anything else going on that may be making you feel like this?
 
if she cheated that shows a sign of character. I would move on also you sound Young go out and explore have fun when you get older and hirched you only see one vagina for the rest of your life
 
What are you jealous about? Her actions are a favor to you-- they allow you to recognize the pointlessness in continuing the relationship :). Not only that, but recognize the problem in yourself-- the insecurity that you feel something is being taken away from you. You were fine before she was with you, and you will be fine when shes not. You can feel better simply by re-establishing the control of your reactions-- nothing is making you jealous, YOU are making YOU jealous. Jealousy and anxiety are only as real as the ideas that feed it, likewise is the issue with paranoia or any fear for that matter. Tren doesnt exacerbate these things, it exacerbates a particular feeling of urgency and your mind fills the blanks with "rationale". This is similar to how dehydration elicits depression in some-- the mind attempts to rationalize a feeling of lethargy and tense-tiredness when no rationality is needed. A biological response mixed with complex mental alterations are the result of conditioning, not biology.

TLDR: Hang in there, bro. All heroes go through pit-falls.
 
Brother I think it is definitely the Tren. I've been on my first Tren cycle for just about 3 weeks now(Tren 100 mg EOD, Mast 100 mg EOD, Test 250mg E/WK). I'm usually very calm and level headed except for when I fight in the cage. Now I feel like I'm in a fight 24/7. I've really had to watch what I say and bite my tongue on several occasions. Don't think I'm weird but what I've found that works well is meditation. Once or twice a day just take five minutes to close your eyes and breathe.
 
 
Tren is known for causing emotional issues. I think some of it may be sleep deprivation though as many guys report not being able to sleep well on Tren. Jump off the Tren if its messing with your head brother.
 
outofmind said:
What are you jealous about? Her actions are a favor to you-- they allow you to recognize the pointlessness in continuing the relationship :). Not only that, but recognize the problem in yourself-- the insecurity that you feel something is being taken away from you. You were fine before she was with you, and you will be fine when shes not. You can feel better simply by re-establishing the control of your reactions-- nothing is making you jealous, YOU are making YOU jealous. Jealousy and anxiety are only as real as the ideas that feed it, likewise is the issue with paranoia or any fear for that matter. Tren doesnt exacerbate these things, it exacerbates a particular feeling of urgency and your mind fills the blanks with "rationale". This is similar to how dehydration elicits depression in some-- the mind attempts to rationalize a feeling of lethargy and tense-tiredness when no rationality is needed. A biological response mixed with complex mental alterations are the result of conditioning, not biology.

TLDR: Hang in there, bro. All heroes go through pit-falls.
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Could not have said it better myself. You have lost control of your emotions, and there is only one parachute in a relationship, and she has it. You can't change her mind, you can only get a handle on your feelings.

For starters, this girl is done. On your part, because you love her more than she loves you. Lets call this phenomena "Interest Level." Her IL has been dropping for a long time, and your behavior has driven it further down. You just did not see the signs, your mind clouded by your feelings for her. 10 phone calls? Her interest is lower than whale shit and you are half way to a restraining order.

Delete her number immediately. There is no going back, she will never love you.

A women w/ high interest does not cheat, unless there is something seriously wrong w/ her. Either way, deal breaker. How old are you? I ask because if you are in your 20's to mid thirties you should be banging as many women as you can (but don't use them just for sex....the reality is that most relationships end by 3 months). 35 is a good age to settle down. I married my wife when I was 43 (she was 28) and was seeing 2 other women when I met her. Always be honest, don't lie (but of course don't rub it in her face).

The key to a relationship w/ a women is IT TAKES CONSTANT WORK!!! They will constantly test you. It never ends, I passed 2 tests this week and I have been w/ my wife for 8 years. Your job is to keep passing these tests and demonstrating higher value. Also, always be a gentleman (except for spanking her ass while fucking her).

My wife and I hit it off amazingly well. I would see her during the week, and the other 2 on the weekend. Finally, she asked "are you seeing any one else?" I said, only 3 or 4 but you are my favorite." Remember women will plant shit at your house, hair, earrings, etc. They do so to mark their territory. My wife broke up w/ me repeatedly (left these huge long letters each time). She even knocked on my door 10 minutes after a girl I fucked left.

Every time she broke up w/ me I did nothing, did not even call. We were back together after 2-3 days each time.

I could go on and on, but what you need is to start seeing other women. GFTOW (Go Fuck Ten Other Women).

By # 6 you will be 100% over this one.

Don't lose faith....eventually you will find the right girl, it just takes hard work and discipline.

Oh, and switch out the tren for some Mast.
 
I have never had any kind of issue with anything other than tren. Tren turned me into an aggressive asshole, I'd be somewhere wishing someone would start shit with me. I won't use it again for that reason.

If you think its the tren, it probably is IMHO.
 
Personally I believe anyone can be a Dick, and cheating in a relationship is not cause to become deaf or mute. You must speak out to set the record straight but do it AFTER you know what to say based on a particular pretext.

Perhaps Tren is associated with mates becoming more aggressive and certain individuals are probably more or less predisposed.

Nonetheless I've not discovered the incidence of Tren rage is more or less common than any other AAS in equipotent doses.

Ergo I say keep the Tren and DUMP the lady friend, then you will KNOW for sure, IMO

Jim
 
More input on the Tren rage subject would be nice fellas.

Have our Meso mates noted an increased incidence PERSONALLY.

By this I mean the rage was not premeditated and completely inappropriate for the conditions which prompted the aggressive behavior!

Kind of like, after returning from the BR the bench you had been using has been "taken" by two dudes. (Note, you left your NAME embroidered towel on the bench prior to departing now lie on the floor)

No other benches are available since it's Wednesday at 6:00 PM

How should this be handled?

(This is one of many reasons I built my own damn gym which is capable of accommodating myself, close friends, and patients)

How about a brief introduction like, hey dudes get the Fuck off my bench, lol, (I've seen that happen once)

Jim
 
You could look at it this way bro, the Tren is probably making you bat shit crazy but sounds like to me your lady is not doing you right either, you could use the Tren to your advantage in this case.
If your a real easy going dude like myself you probably let a lot of stuff slide when your not using, but when your on that shit doesn't go over we'll at all and you go off.
If your ready to move on from this chick the Tren will sure speed up the process for ya cause your not going to put up with any of her shit, unless your thinking of killin her then I would stop taking it immediately for sure LOL!
On another note I've used Tren and lots of it in every cycle I've ran and I had the very same trouble as your dealing with now, these feelings have got better each time I'm not sure if its me learning to catching myself before I go off or what but it has got better for me. Keep your head up bro you'll find the right lady in due time.
 
This is going to be a raw deal for you. The bitch cheated on you, and what its going to turn into is you are going to be the bad guy who is on steroids. Its going to be all your fault in her eyes, when in reality she is nothing but a worthless slut.
 
I never really have had any issues with anger on tren, at least not anything that I don't have the self control to overcome.

With that said, dump the bish. It might be worthwhile to try to work with the situation if you're married with kids but there are way too many women out there to consider staying with a cheating girlfriend IMO.
 
Wow guys thanks for the responses. I appreciate all of your opinions. I realize how 'needy' 10 phones calls are, but like I said, this is an isolated incident. We're 150 miles from eachother, so I can't get in the car and drive to her easily (thank god).

I ended up chilling out after a bromance phone call with my best friend. Today, I didn't call her and she finally texted me at 4pm today asking if I was still freaking out from the Tren. I didn't respond for a few hours and still then only with two words. She finally called me twice while I was at the gym and then we talked for an hour when I called her back an hour later. Basically, I was trying to get the ball back in my court by being completely distant. I used to study PUA technique, so I understand push-pull. It's just really hard when you're super emotional and in a dedicated relationship.

I don't plan on leaving her although I understand the opinions of those who say I should. I'm going to finish my last vial of tren and try to learn better self control.

Btw, we've been dating for two years, so it's very difficult for me to walk away because in reality, I want it to work.

Thanks guys.
 
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Also, my avatar is a picture of her ass :D
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Please dont take this the wrong way, but I need to be honest here. You are investing more in this than what its worth. You sound like a needy sort of guy, and needy guys are a big turn off to women. While your sitting there 150 miles away worrying to death, she is off having a good time. I guarantee it!! Your the back up guy she can call when she is bored, or calls just enough to stay in contact with, so the bitch can have her cake and eat it too, with some fucking ice cream. You think she just kissed some guy out of the blue? No Sir, she had been hanging out with him, thinking about him, probably fucking the guy too. You just happened to catch "the kiss" you didnt see all of the other bullshit. This chick has already moved on, you just haven't realized it. In her perspective your this messed up guy who is using steroids and its making him crazy. She is worried, she feels bad for you, but you are no longer someone she wants to be with. You think that all 10 of your calls went unnoticed? Bitches got those cell phones glued to their hip now man, she didnt answer your calls because she didnt want to pick up the phone when she was with the other dude!! Wake up and smell the fucking coffee already, C'mon man, your holding this chick up too high. Yea, a pic of her ass for your avatar, wonderful....Drop the material shit now and get real, go find a girl who is worth a damn. What has this girl done for you lately other than drive you fucking nuts? You think she is just sitting there waiting for your phone call? No, she doesn't like being bored and she could give a fuck. She is probably shining some dudes pole right now as I type this response!! Quit being an orphaned puppy who follows worthless sluts around and start running shit like a man. I'm sorry if this comes off as blunt, but I've seen this sort of shit happen to guys all the time. And its usually because the guy acts like a needy little bitch and she loses respect for him. Go get yourself some new pussy and get distracted by that. Then watch the tables turn with your situation. She has lost respect for you dude. How old is she anyways? If this girl is anything less than about 28-30 yrs old, she doesnt know what the hell she wants regardless. Hell, half of these middle aged bitches dont even know, but they know how to get drunk and suck a strangers dick. I think tren is the best fucking thing you could do right now, hell I'd even up my dose and get stupider and end up in some other chicks bed. Fuck that shit!!!
 
In reality you want it to work? WTF is wrong with you? Your not even married to this girl, and in reality its already driving you nuts!! You sound like a woman right now. Or at best, a pussified man on a hit soap opera series. Get your head out of your ass already, go fuck some other bitches. Your a guy, your programmed to lay the dick down on these chicks!!! Someone has removed your fux capacitor, we gotta get you back to 1985 Marty!!
 
Demondosage said:
Please dont take this the wrong way, but I need to be honest here. You are investing more in this than what its worth. You sound like a needy sort of guy, and needy guys are a big turn off to women. While your sitting there 150 miles away worrying to death, she is off having a good time. I guarantee it!! Your the back up guy she can call when she is bored, or calls just enough to stay in contact with, so the bitch can have her cake and eat it too, with some fucking ice cream. You think she just kissed some guy out of the blue? No Sir, she had been hanging out with him, thinking about him, probably fucking the guy too. You just happened to catch "the kiss" you didnt see all of the other bullshit. This chick has already moved on, you just haven't realized it. In her perspective your this messed up guy who is using steroids and its making him crazy. She is worried, she feels bad for you, but you are no longer someone she wants to be with. You think that all 10 of your calls went unnoticed? Bitches got those cell phones glued to their hip now man, she didnt answer your calls because she didnt want to pick up the phone when she was with the other dude!! Wake up and smell the fucking coffee already, C'mon man, your holding this chick up too high. Yea, a pic of her ass for your avatar, wonderful....Drop the material shit now and get real, go find a girl who is worth a damn. What has this girl done for you lately other than drive you fucking nuts? You think she is just sitting there waiting for your phone call? No, she doesn't like being bored and she could give a fuck. She is probably shining some dudes pole right now as I type this response!! Quit being an orphaned puppy who follows worthless sluts around and start running shit like a man. I'm sorry if this comes off as blunt, but I've seen this sort of shit happen to guys all the time. And its usually because the guy acts like a needy little bitch and she loses respect for him. Go get yourself some new pussy and get distracted by that. Then watch the tables turn with your situation. She has lost respect for you dude. How old is she anyways? If this girl is anything less than about 28-30 yrs old, she doesnt know what the hell she wants regardless. Hell, half of these middle aged bitches dont even know, but they know how to get drunk and suck a strangers dick. I think tren is the best fucking thing you could do right now, hell I'd even up my dose and get stupider and end up in some other chicks bed. Fuck that shit!!!
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Ouch..

Demondosage said:
In reality you want it to work? WTF is wrong with you? Your not even married to this girl, and in reality its already driving you nuts!! You sound like a woman right now. Or at best, a pussified man on a hit soap opera series. Get your head out of your ass already, go fuck some other bitches. Your a guy, your programmed to lay the dick down on these chicks!!! Someone has removed your fux capacitor, we gotta get you back to 1985 Marty!!
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