Tren is making me crazy?!

[Mike Oxbig]

Please dont take this the wrong way, but I need to be honest here. You are investing more in this than what its worth. You sound like a needy sort of guy, and needy guys are a big turn off to women. While your sitting there 150 miles away worrying to death, she is off having a good time. I guarantee it!! Your the back up guy she can call when she is bored, or calls just enough to stay in contact with, so the bitch can have her cake and eat it too, with some fucking ice cream. You think she just kissed some guy out of the blue? No Sir, she had been hanging out with him, thinking about him, probably fucking the guy too. You just happened to catch "the kiss" you didnt see all of the other bullshit. This chick has already moved on, you just haven't realized it. In her perspective your this messed up guy who is using steroids and its making him crazy. She is worried, she feels bad for you, but you are no longer someone she wants to be with. You think that all 10 of your calls went unnoticed? Bitches got those cell phones glued to their hip now man, she didnt answer your calls because she didnt want to pick up the phone when she was with the other dude!! Wake up and smell the fucking coffee already, C'mon man, your holding this chick up too high. Yea, a pic of her ass for your avatar, wonderful....Drop the material shit now and get real, go find a girl who is worth a damn. What has this girl done for you lately other than drive you fucking nuts? You think she is just sitting there waiting for your phone call? No, she doesn't like being bored and she could give a fuck. She is probably shining some dudes pole right now as I type this response!! Quit being an orphaned puppy who follows worthless sluts around and start running shit like a man. I'm sorry if this comes off as blunt, but I've seen this sort of shit happen to guys all the time. And its usually because the guy acts like a needy little bitch and she loses respect for him. Go get yourself some new pussy and get distracted by that. Then watch the tables turn with your situation. She has lost respect for you dude. How old is she anyways? If this girl is anything less than about 28-30 yrs old, she doesnt know what the hell she wants regardless. Hell, half of these middle aged bitches dont even know, but they know how to get drunk and suck a strangers dick. I think tren is the best fucking thing you could do right now, hell I'd even up my dose and get stupider and end up in some other chicks bed. Fuck that shit!!!

Albeit worded a bit harshly, everything in this post is spot on.

On of the main PUA relationship concepts is that the woman has to feel that she is the lucky one in the relationship you and that you are willing to walk away at a moments notice if she fucks up. She really didn't value you to begin with, acting incredibly needy AFTER you found out she was cheating will only lower your perceived value even further and she absolutely will continue blowing this guy and likely others as well.

 

[JackC4]

Wow guys thanks for the responses. I appreciate all of your opinions. I realize how 'needy' 10 phones calls are, but like I said, this is an isolated incident. We're 150 miles from eachother, so I can't get in the car and drive to her easily (thank god).

I ended up chilling out after a bromance phone call with my best friend. Today, I didn't call her and she finally texted me at 4pm today asking if I was still freaking out from the Tren. I didn't respond for a few hours and still then only with two words. She finally called me twice while I was at the gym and then we talked for an hour when I called her back an hour later. Basically, I was trying to get the ball back in my court by being completely distant. I used to study PUA
technique, so I understand push-pull. It's just really hard when you're super
emotional and in a dedicated relationship.
I don't plan on leaving her although I understand the opinions of those who say I should. I'm going to finish my last vial of tren and try to learn better self control.
Btw, we've been dating for two years, so it's very difficult for me to walk away
because in reality, I want it to work.
Thanks guys.

I can understand what your saying, and ive never ran tren so I couldn't tell you about emotional side effects. BUT since this girl cheated on you, if you were to get back w/ her. I believe that with or without the tren, you'll always wonder what the fuck she's up too....when she's doesn't answer the phone, says she's going out w/ her friends, says she's studying!!!!!!! Unless you can Put that shit away and never think about it.

Go get some strange pussy,it's the cure all.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Guys, approaching week 8 here using 500mg Test E/wk and 75 mg Tren EOD. I need some advice. My girlfriend cheated on me like 9 months ago by making out with another dude in her graduate program. I revenge cheated, told her, then forgave her and actually she gained my trust back over the last 6 months or so. But, lately, I'm paranoid of every guy that talks to her. I called her 10 times tonight (precise count), and I'm sitting here fucking manic waiting for a response. I did some digging and apparently Tren can exaggerate jealous and anxious tendencies in ppl. Am I taking enough to 'blame' the Tren or am I just losing my shit?

Seriously, not looking for a flame answer here. I'm usually very chill and quiet about jealousy, but it's like I just can't turn it off and the only way to satisfy my itch is to self-destroy (aka call her a bunch like a psycho) I plan on coming off immediately unless I hear otherwise.

Forget about the tren. I think your post exposes some underlying issues you haven't dealt with. She cheated because she wanted to cheat. You cheated to even the score, then promptly forgave her, and swept everything under the rug. You cheating couldn't and didn't make you feel better because it was done for revenge, but hers was a genuine betrayal of your trust.

You say she's regained your trust but your obcession and subsequent panic over her activities exposes the fact that she hasn't regained your trust. The reality is you haven't forgiven her and you don't trust her. Now that the rug has been pulled back and these feelings have come to the surface, maybe precipitated by tren, maybe not, doesn't matter, but the feelings you tried to forget have resurfaced and stopping tren won't make them go away until you deal with them. So the question you should be asking is not whether tren is making you obcess and panic over this girl - you're panicking because you don't trust her. The question you need to ask is whether it's worth investing anymore time in a relationship with someone you don't trust and might never trust. Only you can answer that question.

Regards
CBS

 

[Dr JIM]

OP if you believe you ever have the same level of trust you had with someone whom has cheated on you, why sorry fella, that's called a delusion in may profession.

Anytime you observe her speaking with another fella your mind will start racing and thinking .....hmm is this her next? How about those unknown phone calls whom she states "not to worry those were/are just friends!

I've no doubt your young and infatuated (and in LUST) with this chick because no sane person would be so inclined to "trust" a cheater as promptly as you have.

No my advice, DUMP THE BITCH now or you will regret it later, I PROMISE!
(Been there and done THAT TWICE)

JIM

 

[Dr JIM]

OP
Ironically I KNOW your WON'T follow the advice of myself of CBS, BUT shit at least I can say I tried. Know this my man, LOVE (and LUST) IS BLIND!


JIM

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

No my advice, DUMP THE BITCH now or you will regret it later, I PROMISE!
(Been there and done THAT TWICE)

For the most part, women are manipulative and vile creatures. I'll take my dog over any of them.

 

[Dr JIM]

Yea there is a damn good REASON the colloquialism is, dogs (rather than women) are man's BEST FRIEND!

j

 

[bickel29]

There is a reason that so many other dudes on here are saying "dump her ass!". Because many of us have been there done that, or know several people who have. And staying with the cheater NEVER goes well, because the cheatee (that's you my man) ends up a paranoid basketcase that sits around wondering where she is, what she's doing, who she is with, etc. Sound like anyone you know?

Ya know what else happens to the cheatee? The cheater goes right back to polishing some other dude's knob while the cheatee freaks out, on the edge of a nervous breakdown, calling the cheater 10 times and crying and panicking. Sound like anyone you know?

Another thing - your revenge fuck was a failure. You only did it so that when someone who knows what happened to you, calls you out for staying with her, you can say "Yeah, but I went out and fucked someone else too, so it's all good". It's not all good. You are still way stuck on this girl and because of it she is completely without respect for you (come on man, 10 unanswered phone calls?) She was probably giggling saying to the other sausage she was with "Oh, it's just my psycho steroid user ex-BF - I am not answering".

Bottom line, you have self esteem issues that are causing your mental state. You believe that you are deserving of a GF that cheats on you. That is the level of expectation you have set for yourself. You are allowing yourself to be played because you believe deep down inside that you do not deserve better. Until you believe that you are worth more than what you are getting, you'll just continue to get what you have got.

The Tren is your friend - and the Ho has to go!

 

[Dr JIM]

Nice post B29!
j

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Although not the best place to find broads to fuck and chuck, gyms are an excellent place to find girlfriends.

The ones that exercise religiously are typically more mature than most 20-somethings and aren't out getting shitfaced every weekend in search a random guy to stuff their cooter like most slam pigs in their age bracket. Not to mention the fact they have incredible asses.

With that said, they typically prefer yolked guys so dump the whore and up the tren dose.

 

[Pericles]

Every response in this thread is spot on. When You find the Dynamic Duo agreeing w/ me, it must be profoundly correct.

Demond, was mean, and admittedly so was I but we are correct on this matter.

Several people have referenced the PUA material, and that is exactly what you need right now. Get on over to MASF forum and start reading. Also, read the Don Juan bible. Also, find a guy called Woodhaven, and read his stuff on Demonstrating Higher Value.

I immersed myself into this literature, and you should as well. In my case, fucking and chucking was not my goal. I had a tenured tract teaching job, and wanted to settle down and have a family. I was 40. I had a ton of 3 month relationships, and banged nearly 20 women and finally found one to marry.

The PUA movement is really, at bottom, a system designed for seducing women and maintaining higher value. The things that get a woman initially interested are things that keep her interested.

Keep in mind that you WILL recover from this.

 

[Demondosage]

my anger was not directed towards him, I just get really pissed off when I hear about guys getting done wrong by these bitches

 

[CLarkWgriswoLd]

Tren always makes me nuts as well....

sometimes the craziest thoughts going through my mind

 

[nano]

when I dont keep my hormones in check and keep a grip on myself I get prone to anger fits and want to burn the world down. Chicks are the biggest catalyst.

nobody here will change the OPs mind, no matter how correct we are with all our prior experience to back it up. OP is gonna do what OP wants to do.

I suggest to the man to keep running the tren, but when you hit that threshold of losing your shit you better cut that girl loose before you do something that lands you prison time. Keep your shit together. Fuck whores.

 

[foreveryoung]

should have dumped her and moved on long ago

 

[Megapumps1234]

lol you guys are being dicks! haha but seriously, I appreciate it. Here is what I'm going to do:

1. Stop and fucking think for a few days or a week. I'm not in a rush (well, I upped the tren dose to ED, mostly because my MLG test vials were so underfilled that my cycle will come up three weeks shy)
2. Make my decision


I asked for all your advice for a reason. I'm not just going to listen to what I want to hear. I'm going to process it over some time like a rational human being. Nothing good will come from acting too fast.

She's a full time Optometry student, so really, it would be hard for her to have time to go out and be sucking strange. I actually met her through my best friend (the one that calmed me down) because he's in her class (class size <30). I trust HIM completely. I only clarify this because somebody is about to say 'your best friend is fucking your girl.' He wouldn't fuck her even if she showed up on his door step naked; he'd just call me in a panic and tell me about it. Best guy I know.

 

[CensoredBoardsSuck]

Your a guy, your programmed to lay the dick down on these chicks!!! Someone has removed your fux capacitor, we gotta get you back to 1985 Marty!!

She is probably shining some dudes pole right now as I type this response!!

She was probably giggling saying to the other sausage she was with...

The Tren is your friend - and the Ho has to go!

Although not the best place to find broads to fuck and chuck, ...

...getting shitfaced every weekend in search a random guy to stuff their cooter like most slam pigs in their age bracket.

I've got to get out more or something. I see I'm out of touch. A lot of this new lingo is totally foreign to me. I do like the way it gets the point across, though.

I used to be up on all the latest terminology but this new stuff is a stark reminder that I'm getting old and losing touch and getting old sucks! Damn you, posters!!!

 

[Singularity]

I've got to get out more or something. I see I'm out of touch. A lot of this new lingo is totally foreign to me. I do like the way it gets the point across, though.

I used to be up on all the latest terminology but this new stuff is a stark reminder that I'm getting old and losing touch and getting old sucks! Damn you, posters!!!

[)] It's not that bad.
I try to remind myself that getting older is a privilege not afforded to many.

 

[Pericles]

my anger was not directed towards him, I just get really pissed off when I hear about guys getting done wrong by these bitches

I would not say you were angry, you just delivered some cold hard truth holding nothing back.

Like me, we both want to help OP. Just wanted him to understand our intention is not to beat him up, but to help him.

The 20 number I posted above^ was all after I started reading into the PUA material, most of what came naturally. It helped me to tighten up my game and thus protect me from the pain of getting dumped. BTW, there is a guy out there called "Anti Dump" and his system is amazing, and free. Of the 20 women, only one broke up w/ me (because I became sloppy, and mismanaged the relationship) . 18 I broke up w/ and 1 I married.

 

[Pericles]

For the most part, women are manipulative and vile creatures. I'll take my dog over any of them.

I would not necessarily say vile, but manipulative, absolutely. A better analogy is they are like monkeyts w/ tits.

She is holding on to you, using you for re-enforcing her self esteem while getting a good grasp on the next branch (guy).