Tren no ester, Test no ester, Adrol, and Dbol

Gbaby12

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So father's day I accidentally pinned a preworkout mix 1.5cc of 50 tren no ester, 50 TNE, 25 adrol, 25 dbol... it was not the best experience Oops

Being the monkey I am, I wanted to see what it was like to actually train on the PWO mix.

I inject .5 a cc with 1cc of test E into my delt. It felt like I had injected myself with fire and hornets worst pip ever; when I had injected into my glute last time there was no pain at all, went in smooth as butter. This time I silently screamed at myself in the mirror, literally fire and hornets.

Of course nasty taste of the oil in my mouth, smell of it all over. Only a few minutes after the pin I was amped, but not like caffeine amped, like parts of my CNS lit up that don't normally get used a different kind of focus/stimulation.

Normally I drink beta androrush as a preworkout, but didn't feel the need to as I was walking out the door.

My current workout routine consists of stretching, the either dips, pull-ups, push-ups, or box jumps. I then do a 10min run on the elliptical and try to get a mile and a half. Then 3 supersets dumbells, 2 or 3 supersets barbells, 3 or 4 cables, and then whatever on the machines or Smith machines. I do 12-15reps and focus on really contracting/flexing the muscle, chasing pumps, no rest other than to quickly catch my breath or clean up after myself, this usually takes me about 2 hours to complete.

I get to the gym and begin stretching, man my delt still burns! I then goto do dips and immediately notice a difference, 3 sets of 12 with like 20 seconds in between. My arms feel like solid support, normally when I do dips I feel it in my wrist and elbows, but I push these out easy peasy no fatigue or strain on my joints whatsoever.

I skip my usual run today, as I already feel warmed up and I was a little scared to get my heart rate too high.

Move over to dumbells, I end up going with the heaviest weight I can get for 8-10reps, no difference in strength really, I'm lifting what I'd normally do for 8-10 reps.

I did hit biceps after I hit them really hard the day before, and there was no fatigue at all from the previous day, I decided to hammer them. Now I am cursed with not being very vascular, I have to be below 10% bf to even see the veins on my biceps a little. At 15% bodyfat as I'm doing curls the veins is bursting out and looks like a slinky, every vein down my forearms.

One thing that sucked is I'm getting very winded in between sets, like pretty much defeated the purpose of doing supersets with the time I was taking to catch my breath...

Pip was still in my shoulder but dissipated as I did overhead press and lat raises.

I move onto the barbells and do a superset of front squats and upright rows. I'm literally gasping for breath hunched over between each set and my heart is pounding out my chest. I decide to cool it on the supersets.

Again no real strength difference, I push 225 for 4 on the bench which is very average for me. I did notice same as with the dips that I felt more support in my muscles as I was doing the reps.

I move over to the cables and go ham with supersets again, wind up doing like 6 different sets, basically from top to bottom cable cross overs and doing like pulldowns and such in between. I'm totally hogging all the cables and when someone even moves near them I was getting very agitated like they were encroaching on my territory lol.

Then I hit a few machines, but that wasn't good enough for me, so I went and did leg press. Then I went back to the dumbells, did some more cables too... literally I had this itch to keep lifting, and there was no end to it, I could've stayed all day. It was like no matter what I did, it wasn't enough.

And the pump too, was unnatural, normal have this blown up feeling, like someone filled my muscles with water, it felt like there where literally rocks in them this time. My shoulders felt like someone had cut surgically installed a Boulder into them.

I finally decided between the 3-4 hour mark to call it off, figured that maybe if I get a bunch of food and nutrients in me all these drugs can maybe build a little bit of muscle.

So I blow the diet I've been on for the past 5 months and order 50 bucks worth of Chinese food.

Get home. Routine, 2 protein shakes, multi vitamins, and fish oil.

My neighbors over with her kid, I'm creating my pet fish in my firepit. I loved this fish, had him for 5 years, I have lots of big aggressive fish, and one of the assholes murdered him. So I'm burning my fish and the neighbor is cracking all these fish fry jokes. I'm livid, she's like, "why're you smiling," if she knew the thoughts going through my mind.

I then get a text from doordash that after waiting 45mins my order is canceled, it's already late at night, I place another order with the place that canceled and then call doordash and demand a refund and that they give me credits for wasting my time and take the restaurant off their app.

I then call the restaurant and rip them a new one. I then drive myself to the restaurant and get the food I ordered myself and tell them what they did was bullshit.

I go home and eat a shit ton of food, then lay down, it's like trying to fall asleep on a stimulant, my mind is racing, but unlike the other night when I took it, I'm actually able to fall asleep rather than toss and turn all night.

I am up 1hour before my alarms goes off, alarm goes off and I get out of bed, I just want to go back to sleep even though I laid there for an hour and couldn't. I'm tired but I still have the stimulation and focus I had before, I guess you would call it restlessness now.

My body feels like a train hit it. Like normally on cycle I'm not really sore the next day or tired, right now I feel like I had just had a very intense workout the day before while being natty.

And now I'm typing this up at work lol...

All and all, if .5cc worked out this way, I'd be interested in training off 1cc... That said, I don't care to use this stuff again, or at least at the moment.

My concensus... it is not worth pointing that much strain on the CNS, Liver, Kidneys, Heart... everything, just to get a workout like I stated above... maybe if I spent all day in the gym on it, but I literally can get the same workout, if not better (Not running out of breath) just doing the same routine I'd been on, with again, no strain, no negative side effects. I feel like I'm hungover right now, we shall see how training goes this evening, but that would be another negative aspect if I can't enjoy a good workout today.

My honest thoughts are is that you're better off just running these compounds out right rather than just a preworkout, can literally get all of these effects running test, tren, and adrol together except you'll actually be building your body up while taking them.

Only benefit I see to these is if I was to do a fight, competition, or powerlifting.

The aggression and focus would be awesome prior to a fight, and I would think these compounds would clear from your system before any testing could be done.

Same for powerlifting, that added stability I felt, and aggression.

Bodybuilding, would be a quick and easy pump before stepping on stage.

Other than that, I see no other real applicable use of this mix.

To end this "article" on a nice note, I've been training lighter weights, higher reps, high intensity now as my doctor suggested it since I've been dealing with Thrombosed Hemmorrhoids, when I went to take my preworkout shit, they had all exploded which I assume is from the crazy blood pressure spike and heavy lifting, instant relief of the suffering I've dealt with for the past few months!
 
Placebo is one hell of a drug
What makes you say Placebo?
And curious what your problem is with my routine?

It's a 5 day week routine, I hit every muscle group each day and put emphasis on whatever I feel needs the most work. I've gotten great results thus far and plan on continuing it until I'm off at which point I'll be training a few friends and just doing a split with them while I recover.
 
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What makes you say Placebo?
"Only a few minutes after the pin I was amped, but not like caffeine amped, like parts of my CNS lit up that don't normally get used a different kind of focus/stimulation."

"I then goto do dips and immediately notice a difference, 3 sets of 12 with like 20 seconds in between. My arms feel like solid support, normally when I do dips I feel it in my wrist and elbows, but I push these out easy peasy no fatigue or strain on my joints whatsoever."

"I was a little scared to get my heart rate too high."

" At 15% bodyfat as I'm doing curls the veins is bursting out and looks like a slinky, every vein down my forearms."

" I'm totally hogging all the cables and when someone even moves near them I was getting very agitated like they were encroaching on my territory lol."

and so on and so on and so on....
All in your head.
 
You should learn how to train first
Tell me how to train fuck face.

I was off for 3years, got busy with life and didn't train for a year, then covid happened, by the time gyms opened up in November I was +35% bodyfat legit had tits 240lbs.

Hopped 500mgs of Test a week mid april, and as of right now I'm sitting at 6'3 230lbs 15% bodyfat.

All thanks to my routine, like to see you make moves like that without drugs because almost all of it has been diet and training.

I also have phenomenal cardio right now, as good as I was running cross country in highschool, but total placebo that I'm getting winded on that shit when I am never winded.
 
Tell me how to train fuck face.

I was off for 3years, got busy with life and didn't train for a year, then covid happened, by the time gyms opened up in November I was +35% bodyfat legit had tits 240lbs.

Hopped 500mgs of Test a week mid april, and as of right now I'm sitting at 6'3 230lbs 15% bodyfat.

All thanks to my routine, like to see you make moves like that without drugs because almost all of it has been diet and training.

I also have phenomenal cardio right now, as good as I was running cross country in highschool, but total placebo that I'm getting winded on that shit when I am never winded.
Yeah sure mate... a housewife has more structure in her training routine then you
 
Yeah sure mate... a housewife has more structure in her training routine then you
Since you wanna talk shit,

What are your stats and what are you doing, also have you been running to get there?

I've completed recomped my body and got back most of the muscle I'd lost from negligence.

High intensity, frequency, focus on contracting and flexing the muscles during each rep, getting as much blood into them as possible. That's how you grow muscle.

And there is structure, I hit every muscle 5 days a week and put emphasis on what I want to grow, I don't like how my calves look so I've been throwing in a ton of calve raises, mid lower pecs don't pop enough, I've been doing close grip and on the decline, really focusing on getting that part of the muscle to contract.

I really want to know what you've accomplished over the past couple of months and what you've been doing to get from point A to point B. Since my routine and my gains are trash and placebo.
 
Since you wanna talk shit,

What are your stats and what are you doing, also have you been running to get there?

I've completed recomped my body and got back most of the muscle I'd lost from negligence.

High intensity, frequency, focus on contracting and flexing the muscles during each rep, getting as much blood into them as possible. That's how you grow muscle.

And there is structure, I hit every muscle 5 days a week and put emphasis on what I want to grow, I don't like how my calves look so I've been throwing in a ton of calve raises, mid lower pecs don't pop enough, I've been doing close grip and on the decline, really focusing on getting that part of the muscle to contract.

I really want to know what you've accomplished over the past couple of months and what you've been doing to get from point A to point B. Since my routine and my gains are trash and placebo.
You hit every muscle 5 times a week and you talk about high intensity? You have no idea what ur talking about
 
You hit every muscle 5 times a week and you talk about high intensity? You have no idea what ur talking about
40years old and your going to talk shit to me old man, you wouldn't be able to do one of my workouts, that's why you're hating LOL
 
You hit every muscle 5 times a week and you talk about high intensity? You have no idea what ur talking about
Come on bro, let's get some stats and training methodology from you since you've got so much shit to talk, I'm scrolling through your old post but can't find anything you've stated on this forum about training/diet or your stats...

All I'm seeing is you comment on a bunch of DNP threads, you have to run DNP because you're a fat lazy slob dude? I got a fucking 40 year old slob telling me how to train? Lol
 
Not a single point for talking shit for his training. If he's getting results then his good for him. There are a lot of ways to train if you know how to diet and what drugs to take and when then almost all training systems work.
He's also injured and he's recovery.
Very bad attitude from your side

Have also trained that way when I was injured and I did still improved.

So zero point on your comment.
 
Come on bro, let's get some stats and training methodology from you since you've got so much shit to talk, I'm scrolling through your old post but can't find anything you've stated on this forum about training/diet or your stats...

All I'm seeing is you comment on a bunch of DNP threads, you have to run DNP because you're a fat lazy slob dude? I got a fucking 40 year old slob telling me how to train? Lol
Damn 3 new posts while i was gone, struck a nerve did i?
Really no time to keep arguing with a moron like you... keep doing your full body - high intensity - 5 times per week training routine

"I'm totally hogging all the cables and when someone even moves near them I was getting very agitated like they were encroaching on my territory"

hahaha next time you take tren you write a story about killing someone in your gym right?
 
Damn 3 new posts while i was gone, struck a nerve did i?
Really no time to keep arguing with a moron like you... keep doing your full body - high intensity - 5 times per week training routine

"I'm totally hogging all the cables and when someone even moves near them I was getting very agitated like they were encroaching on my territory"

hahaha next time you take tren you write a story about killing someone in your gym right?
Just fuck off, trash talking because you're some 40 year old slob. Go take some DNP loser, surprised you made it to 40 if that's how you take care of yourself.

I figured I'd write up a experience thread with some goofy details on no ester preworkout and share my thoughts on the use of it.
And of course I made some exaggerations like the cable machine comments.

Training comments were not exaggerated though, it did make me feel like I could train the rest of the day and give me an itch to keep going, did make lifts feel more stable which would have to do with the vasoconstriction and heightened blood pressure. It also made me short of breath, which would also be attributed to that.

oh and next time I take tren? No I don't take tren, best I ever looked was on tren and it's part of why I took a 3 year break from gear because it does make me a psycho and fuck me up in the head.

My little no ester experiment where all the metabolites are gone out of my system in a couple days is as far as I will use the compound. Like I've literally only been on 500mgs of test, and I plan on either doing a low dose mast/test or equip/test in January next year, because I really don't need drugs to be bigger and better looking then you old man.
 
Not a single point for talking shit for his training. If he's getting results then his good for him. There are a lot of ways to train if you know how to diet and what drugs to take and when then almost all training systems work.
He's also injured and he's recovery.
Very bad attitude from your side

Have also trained that way when I was injured and I did still improved.

So zero point on your comment.
I appreciate it man, Thrombosed Hemmorrhoids fucking suck.
 
So yeah. You seem like a dry scoop a tub of pre workout kind of guy. If you need a quarter gram of gear to get through a workout. You’re doing it wrong.
Did you even read my whole thread? I'm running 500mgs of Test E a week, I accidentally pinned this preworkout mix due to it not being labeled properly last Sunday, decided yesterday I would give it a go and see if it is really something worth being used for bodybuilding purposes, my general consensus at the end of the posting is that it is not. Honestly a scoop of preworkout will yield better a better workout.
 
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