Tren no ester, Test no ester, Adrol, and Dbol

So yeah. You seem like a dry scoop a tub of pre workout kind of guy. If you need a quarter gram of gear to get through a workout. You’re doing it wrong.

There was this kid on TikTok that mixed a little water into a tub of pre-workout, shook it, and drank the whole thing. Anything less than that is being a pussy as far as I’m concerned.

And @Gbaby12 that was a good story but you need to let your ego go. We’re all here for the same thing - improving ourselves. You make it sound like you’re bragging or doing something special. Were you looking for attention or something? You made good progress getting back. Just leave it at that. Full-body routine everyday for 5 days a week isn’t the optimal way to train if you’re talking “intensity”. That means adding weight or reps. Not dancing around the weight room hitting every machine. If you left out the technical term “intensity” you wouldn’t have gotten any shit.
 
There was this kid on TikTok that mixed a little water into a tub of pre-workout, shook it, and drank the whole thing. Anything less than that is being a pussy as far as I’m concerned.

And @Gbaby12 that was a good story but you need to let your ego go. We’re all here for the same thing - improving ourselves. You make it sound like you’re bragging or doing something special. Were you looking for attention or something? You made good progress getting back. Just leave it at that. Full-body routine everyday for 5 days a week isn’t the optimal way to train if you’re talking “intensity”. That means adding weight or reps. Not dancing around the weight room hitting every machine. If you left out the technical term “intensity” you wouldn’t have gotten any shit.
I'm not trying to have a big ego or be a douche, DaBoii or whatever is being a Douche and I'm just not cool with him talking down to me like that. Who the hell is he to tell me what works and what doesn't and say I'm making my little experiment up.

But as far as attention goes, I ran that shit yesterday and decided to take notes as I went along to write up my experience. This is the internet and I'd like some kid to google tren no ester one day and have this thread pop up and consider its worth. Did not expect to recieve hate for it.

As far as intensity goes, I don't see why not? I'm doing back to back supersets with virtually no rest in between, only when needed to catch my breath so I can actually fulfill my next set.
I am putting the same strain on my muscle and damage to muscle tissue as I would if I were to be doing a heavier weight for lower reps (all with minimal risk of injury/strain on my joints) and I am doing the heaviest weight I can do each time, just what I can do slow and controlled where I can flex/contract the muscle use the best form and fullest range of motion, and do that for 12-15 reps.
I'm able to train multiple muscle groups to the fullest extent without completely exhausting them early on in the workout by going back and fourth between them and doing supersets.
and it's not like I dance around the weight room doing random shit, I do a "full body workout" with emphasis on whatever I want to grow or feel has been neglected in previous workouts, like tonight I'm going to put focus on triceps because I really didn't hit them good yesterday other then dips, bench, and tricep overhead on the cables, so today I'll being doing Dumbell overhead, v grip seated pull downs, single cable pulldowns, rope pulldowns, skull crushers, and I like to use the dip machine put the seat all the way down, and lean all they way forward to get a stupid ROM. I'll throw those in while I also hit every other muscle group again today, I will also be doing a ton of calf raises, because I'm really trying to get those to grow lol.
 
I'm not trying to have a big ego or be a douche, DaBoii or whatever is being a Douche and I'm just not cool with him talking down to me like that. Who the hell is he to tell me what works and what doesn't and say I'm making my little experiment up.

But as far as attention goes, I ran that shit yesterday and decided to take notes as I went along to write up my experience. This is the internet and I'd like some kid to google tren no ester one day and have this thread pop up and consider its worth. Did not expect to recieve hate for it.

As far as intensity goes, I don't see why not? I'm doing back to back supersets with virtually no rest in between, only when needed to catch my breath so I can actually fulfill my next set.
I am putting the same strain on my muscle and damage to muscle tissue as I would if I were to be doing a heavier weight for lower reps (all with minimal risk of injury/strain on my joints) and I am doing the heaviest weight I can do each time, just what I can do slow and controlled where I can flex/contract the muscle use the best form and fullest range of motion, and do that for 12-15 reps.
I'm able to train multiple muscle groups to the fullest extent without completely exhausting them early on in the workout by going back and fourth between them and doing supersets.
and it's not like I dance around the weight room doing random shit, I do a "full body workout" with emphasis on whatever I want to grow or feel has been neglected in previous workouts, like tonight I'm going to put focus on triceps because I really didn't hit them good yesterday other then dips, bench, and tricep overhead on the cables, so today I'll being doing Dumbell overhead, v grip seated pull downs, single cable pulldowns, rope pulldowns, skull crushers, and I like to use the dip machine put the seat all the way down, and lean all they way forward to get a stupid ROM. I'll throw those in while I also hit every other muscle group again today, I will also be doing a ton of calf raises, because I'm really trying to get those to grow lol.

I guess you keep a journal or at least track the weights you use?

I’m just having a hard time understanding how you adequately overload the muscles enough but then they recover in 24 hours to do it again.

Or do you go thru your full-body workout and only overload certain muscles only on certain days and other muscles on other days?
 
Or do you go thru your full-body workout and only overload certain muscles only on certain days and other muscles on other days?
I do a 4x per week full body split. It works great.

1) Chest, tris, quads, calves, anterior delts

2) Back, bis, medial and rear delts, traps, hammies

3 and 4 repeat with different exercises.

I can’t even imagine doing every muscle 5x a week. Either your intensity isn’t going to be there or your recovery will suck. Pick one.
 
I've never kept a journal, and this sounds dumb, but I've been lifting long enough where I know what weight I should do, if I do accidentally pick something up that's too light I'll either run a couple more reps or do an extra set.

Yes, not every single muscle gets completely "overloaded" each group gets hit and I put emphasis on those I really want to target. like today I'm really not going to do biceps much as I hammered them the past two days, triceps really weren't isolated yesterday so they're getting it, Quads and hamstrings didn't get worked much other than the front squats and leg press, I may do lunges today, but based on how I'm feeling, they'll probably be due for the blunt of the workout tomorrow.

As far as recovery goes, that's why I'm on 500mgs of test right now, I would not be training this way naturally, my muscles would melt away, and I'll admit I'velost some strength doing this, but I've grown. I've been eating only at maintenance or slightly above maintenance, and I've put on some decent lean mass despite this
Really the goal of this cycle/routine was to clean up the remaining covid mess, recomp/get back to where I was, and get the body fat down more.

I also had been dealing with the health issue where the doctor told me it was caused by my heavy eating habits and heavy lifting so that has been somewhat of an influence.

I've been pretty successful doing this thus far...but it was my goal to be at 12% or less and like 220-225ish when I came off in July, I'm 230 and 15% right now.

I'm going to have to eat and be doing a brosplit during pct and I will be lifting heavy for low reps to maintain size (pretty much a taper in intensity from what I'm doing now) but I really need to be a lower BF when I get there, those numbers will go up, and I'm going to have to eat to keep size.

The aim after pct is to get the bodyfat back down to 15% and maintain it in that range, (I'm willing to sacrifice some muscle to do this) so I can get on again in January and train in a similar routine run Equip or Mast... a little Sdrol and aim for (this is going to sound retarded) 10% and 230lbs.
 
Did you even read my whole thread? I'm running 500mgs of Test E a week, I accidentally pinned this preworkout mix due to it not being labeled properly last Sunday, decided yesterday I would give it a go and see if it is really something worth being used for bodybuilding purposes, my general consensus at the end of the posting is that it is not. Honestly a scoop of preworkout will yield better a better workout.
No. I did not read your entire post. But it sounds to me like your entire post could be condensed to “Tried pinning a bunch of no ester gear pre workout, wouldn’t recommend.”
I fell as though you’re the George RR Martin of meso. Too many words my friend.
 
No. I did not read your entire post. But it sounds to me like your entire post could be condensed to “Tried pinning a bunch of no ester gear pre workout, wouldn’t recommend.”
I fell as though you’re the George RR Martin of meso. Too many words my friend.
I read it all in like five minute. Maybe reading isn’t your thing. Cartoons perhaps?
 
I'm not trying to have a big ego or be a douche, DaBoii or whatever is being a Douche and I'm just not cool with him talking down to me like that. Who the hell is he to tell me what works and what doesn't and say I'm making my little experiment up.

But as far as attention goes, I ran that shit yesterday and decided to take notes as I went along to write up my experience. This is the internet and I'd like some kid to google tren no ester one day and have this thread pop up and consider its worth. Did not expect to recieve hate for it.

As far as intensity goes, I don't see why not? I'm doing back to back supersets with virtually no rest in between, only when needed to catch my breath so I can actually fulfill my next set.
I am putting the same strain on my muscle and damage to muscle tissue as I would if I were to be doing a heavier weight for lower reps (all with minimal risk of injury/strain on my joints) and I am doing the heaviest weight I can do each time, just what I can do slow and controlled where I can flex/contract the muscle use the best form and fullest range of motion, and do that for 12-15 reps.
I'm able to train multiple muscle groups to the fullest extent without completely exhausting them early on in the workout by going back and fourth between them and doing supersets.
and it's not like I dance around the weight room doing random shit, I do a "full body workout" with emphasis on whatever I want to grow or feel has been neglected in previous workouts, like tonight I'm going to put focus on triceps because I really didn't hit them good yesterday other then dips, bench, and tricep overhead on the cables, so today I'll being doing Dumbell overhead, v grip seated pull downs, single cable pulldowns, rope pulldowns, skull crushers, and I like to use the dip machine put the seat all the way down, and lean all they way forward to get a stupid ROM. I'll throw those in while I also hit every other muscle group again today, I will also be doing a ton of calf raises, because I'm really trying to get those to grow lol.
Yeah this is exactly what I did. I am looking at a vial of Test/Tren no ester and debating to get it or not. Probably not right now, but if I ever need something like that to break a plateau or something like that, yeah maybe. Thanks for the write-up.
 
Placebo is one hell of a drug.... also what is this bs random workout routine
What makes you say Placebo?
And curious what your problem is with my routine?

It's a 5 day week routine, I hit every muscle group each day and put emphasis on whatever I feel needs the most work. I've gotten great results thus far and plan on continuing it until I'm off at which point I'll be training a few friends and just doing a split with them while I recover.

the training looks intense but it’s more geared towards athleticism by the look of it. A more basic approach , ie a normal bodybuilding split would be the most optimal. And more separation of cardio and weights.

fasted cardio AM, or post workout, or split both times imo

Push/pull/legs/push/pull/legs/ rest
 
Did you even read my whole thread? I'm running 500mgs of Test E a week, I accidentally pinned this preworkout mix due to it not being labeled properly last Sunday, decided yesterday I would give it a go and see if it is really something worth being used for bodybuilding purposes, my general consensus at the end of the posting is that it is not. Honestly a scoop of preworkout will yield better a better workout.
No dude. No one read the whole clusterfuck thread. How could we? You couldn't and you wrote the shit.
 

Tren no ester, Test no ester, Adrol, and Dbol​

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I can only imagine what this is doing to his CNS and immune system in the not too distant future.
 
Did I read he trains EVERY muscle group FIVE days a week?!?!?!?
Uhhh.... I...I got nothino_O
 
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