Tren question for the experienced

[Stretch]

How many of you guys, who have a lot of experience with any ester of Trenbolone, find that you aren't susceptible to the typical side effects?

Are the side effects typically overblown?

I don't personally notice any horrible sides from Tren. A few mild side effects, which could be blamed on placebo, and that's all I notice.

Are my results typical?

 

[sscales]

I would like to know this to. I have been debating a Tren run in the near future. I just hate to deal with the sides. I

 

[viking23]

What's your dose stretch? Just curious for my own research . Not going to lie but the way some people talk about tren it just doesn't seem worth it until you hear about their gains and then its a toss up

 

[Mike Oxbig]

Tren has essentially become the AAS equivalent of 'reefer madness', many of the people passing along the horror stories have zero personal experience with the compound and are just circulating hearsay.

SOME individuals are prone to severe sides but in general they're overblown. The only side effects I get is acne on my back and mild insomnia.

I personally would never run a cycle without tren.

 

[DieYoungStrong]

Aside from the obvious huge libido increase, the only tren side I ever got was increased aggression. Generally, I'm happier on other gear then when off. Not tren - this is why I don't mess with it anymore. It was great when I'd run it during football season though. Now with a wife, kids, and a stressful career, I can't afford to blow a gasket . I have to many stressors in my life. and I'm scared I will blow-up and fuck myself over.

As far as cardio, although I wasn't running marathons, I never felt more winded on tren, then off. Again, most of my "cradio" was sprint type work or plyos. I never noticed it to be bad enough to outweigh the benefits.

Last, I've never run more then 225mg of Tren A per week. 75mg M/W/F was the most I ever did. I did the same protocol with 50mg the first few times I ran it. Sides might increase with the dosages a lot of guys are running now. I always had great results at those dosages, and back when I was using tren, guys running 50mg daily (350 mg/wk for the mathematicians) were considered to be running "huge" tren cycles.

 

[Ravtech]

I'm not a seasoned user of it, but I already found out that my sweet spot with it is 50mg ed, pinning at 7am. 75mg eod gave me horrible night sweats especially on the days I'd pin. At 50 mg ed I'm seeing decent gains and the only sides are mild insomnia and bad cardio. Occasionally I'll get short of breath and feel my heart rate rise but that might be self induced by anxiety.

I think tren just gets a bad rap because there's a fine line (for me, anyways) between good and too much when dosing it.

 

[GigaloRob]

I run between 400-500 mg of tren e per week. I get the some insomnia and some tolerable sweating. My cardio does suffer a little bit but not to the extent of not being able to finish my cardio session. I do tend to have a little less patience while on cycle though.

 

[biggerben69]

Many are and have been saying that the sides many experience and find to be more than a bit uncomfortable are directly related to the dose and ratio of testosterone to trenbolone. It was at one time the norm to run high doses of test with tren which many, including myself, interpreted as test at the min dose to be equal to what the tren was dosed at. This led many to start saying and believing that the sides they were experiencing were actually from the test they were taking. However, if tren was taken out of the equation and the same dose, the sides were no longer present. This led many to understand that their misery was the result of the synergy of the test and tren. I'm assuming this has led to the current trend of low dose{trt dose} and then the high dose[relative to the T] which guys are reporting to solve the side issues.

 

[Stretch]

You guys are echoing what I've already thought.

Guys think that when they take Tren, it's a foregone conclusion that they won't sleep for weeks, sweat like they just ran a marathon while lying in bed, and they will be winded while walking up stairs. While I understand that this is the unpleasant truth for SOME, most of us guys that try Tren....just get strong, lean, and horny.

 

[hunterbro]

I get the some insomnia and some tolerable sweating. My cardio does suffer a little bit but not to the extent of not being able to finish my cardio session. I do tend to have a little less patience while on cycle though.

I'm was pretty close to this, AFTER I found the my sweet spot. The night sweats were too much for me at first so I dialed my dose down. I also had the cough but it wasn't bad at all. Maybe more like it took my breathe away just for a second. No more than a minute. I think the sides are overblown. Coincidence or not I've never had such a great cycle as when Tren was in there.

 

[fit2beking]

You guys are echoing what I've already thought.

Guys think that when they take Tren, it's a foregone conclusion that they won't sleep for weeks, sweat like they just ran a marathon while lying in bed, and they will be winded while walking up stairs. While I understand that this is the unpleasant truth for SOME, most of us guys that try Tren....just get strong, lean, and horny.

This is why it will be in my next blast! ahem! ahem!

 

[RagingWilly]

I keep hearing these mixed reviews with Tren combined with Test

I hear people saying run Test lower than Tren...

For example, Wouldn't it be better to dose the Tren @ 400mgs & Test E @ 500mgs?

 

[GigaloRob]

I think it's already been stated that a good amount of people see less and milder sides when tren is run higher than test. I don't know what you mean by "better". Better in what regard?

 

[Stretch]

I keep hearing these mixed reviews with Tren combined with Test

I hear people saying run Test lower than Tren...

For example, Wouldn't it be better to dose the Tren @ 400mgs & Test E @ 500mgs?

There are 2 schools of thought.

Old school says run Test higher than Tren.

New school says run low dose test (almost TRT level...like 200-300mg/week) with moderate dose Tren (400-600mg/week).

I prescribe to the old school way of doing things personally. I run Test higher than anything else in my cycles, almost always. I may give the low dose Test cycle a shot though here in the near future.

 

[loveyourbody]

I've done quite a few tren cycles. My first cycle was tren a 75mg eod I know I didn't know anything when I started like 90% of steroids users. I've done up too 600mg of tren e a week with no noticeable side effect but increased aggression other than that didn't have none of te other once. Maybe once in a blue moon night sweats but once again rare

 

[foreveryoung]

I sweat at night enough to soak the sheets pretty constantly, also cardio is worse for sure, but other than that no extreme sides at my low dose level

I find it can play tricks with libido, depending on dosage and duration, can get you really horny at times but with difficult erection to go along with it, and other occasional weird stuff like that, maybe due to prolactin or something else I don't know

 

[Mike Oxbig]

You guys are echoing what I've already thought.

Guys think that when they take Tren, it's a foregone conclusion that they won't sleep for weeks, sweat like they just ran a marathon while lying in bed, and they will be winded while walking up stairs. While I understand that this is the unpleasant truth for SOME, most of us guys that try Tren....just get strong, lean, and horny.

In all fairness, if I was prone to heavy night sweats like some users are that alone would be a deal breaker for me.

The only time I sweat on tren is when I exert myself. Almost immediately after I start workout my entire shirt is drenched. It really doesn't bother me too much.

I keep hearing these mixed reviews with Tren combined with Test

I hear people saying run Test lower than Tren...

For example, Wouldn't it be better to dose the Tren @ 400mgs & Test E @ 500mgs?

The new "theory" is that since tren has an affinity for androgen receptors 5x greater than test that a higher dosage will leave more unbounded test floating around which is what causes the excess side effects.

Are for whether that is bro science or not is anyone's guess. I've personally always run my test lower.

 

[SkankHunt]

I've ran 350mg of Tren Ace a week for 8 weeks. Main side for me was the loss of cardio. Worse than being on DNP. Other than that ill run it again... Well more like running it next week .

 

[Stretch]

I've ran 350mg of Tren Ace a week for 8 weeks. Main side for me was the loss of cardio. Worse than being on DNP. Other than that ill run it again... Well more like running it next week .

Do you get your stuff from biologic?

 

[SkankHunt]

Astro. Not sure if anyone is running his Tren E so I hopped on it and I'll be logging it.