Trestalone experiences?

[Gonz0]

Using ment ace for the first time, not bulking , going to be eating at maintenance with 1 high day. Just wanted to know if anyone’s used it in a cut/recomp stack and how did they like it ? Currently running 175/280/140/35 test C, primo , mast E , ment ace. May increase the primo and ment once everything saturates, I’m only on day 2 so not really feeling the ment yet.

 

[ChemBB]

Basically what you're saying is that if one does not aromatise much at all, or if they take an AI like aromasin which inhibits the enzyme, there is little conversion to methyl e2?

And going further..if one takes something like EQ, which increases E1, which prevents conversion of E2, then it will also prevent the conversion to methy e2?

Yes, exactly

This is the same reason why taking a 5-AR inhibitor will prevent conversion of Nandrolone into Dihydronandrolone in the same way it prevents Testosterone -> DHT conversion

 

[Photon]

Yes, exactly

This is the same reason why taking a 5-AR inhibitor will prevent conversion of Nandrolone into Dihydronandrolone in the same way it prevents Testosterone -> DHT conversion

I'm not sure how true it is, since it can't be tested. I'm running 1g of EQ right now, which pretty much crashes my E2. I'm using Trest D to try to make up for the E2 but if what you say is true, then it wont do anything..Maybe a way to test this is to take a crap load of dbol and see if i turn into a balloon.

 

[ChemBB]

I'm not sure how true it is, since it can't be tested. I'm running 1g of EQ right now, which pretty much crashes my E2. I'm using Trest D to try to make up for the E2 but if what you say is true, then it wont do anything..Maybe a way to test this is to take a crap load of dbol and see if i turn into a balloon.

Since dbol's estrogen metabolite (17a-Me-E2) is _also_ produced via Aromatase, anything destroying production of the enzyme will also prevent the metabolite from forming.

You're going to cringe at the idea, but the only way to increase serum E2 levels if you lack the enzyme to produce them endogenously is to take _exogenous_ E2.

I'm not joking when I say this is why I keep a few vials of 10mg/mL Estradiol Cypionate on hand.

It's saved me a few times to pin a few mg when I've done something stupid to my E2 levels.

 

[ChemBB]

I also could write a whole post about how Estrogen is not the enemy

The amount of neurological, bone, and physical benefits it has, plus it's synergy with androgens for muscle-building are vast.

(Did you know that the animal industry used to use ONLY E2 implants because it was believed that androgens weren't useful for carcass weight, lean tissue growth, and feed efficiency?!)

So many guys fucking themselves with AI use or otherwise artificially inducing low E2.

 

[HKOX]

Running 200mg EQ and 500mg mast prop with 300mg test and 5 mg/day MENT atm and it works to keep the bloat off. Noticeable difference from running the same blast without the EQ.

 

[Gonz0]

I ended up dropping the ment because at 10mg daily systolic bp became a problem. @ChemBB appreciate all the info , I’ll be using exogenous e2 alongside eq this winter. It seems like you could almost have low e2 and high methyl estrogen at the same time if you try and use ment as a source of estrogen when running compounds like primo or eq, and that sounds like a nightmare to deal with.

 

[NotHuman]

I think some people take way too high of a dose. This is a very powerful drug. Even 10mg raises systolic BP and resting heart rate. People who use more are the ones who also risk gyno issues.

 

[Duke309]

I think some people take way too high of a dose. This is a very powerful drug. Even 10mg raises systolic BP and resting heart rate. People who use more are the ones who also risk gyno issues.

10mg gives me gyno after a couple days and massive nausea eventually vomiting issues after a couple weeks.

 

[Gonz0]

I think some people take way too high of a dose. This is a very powerful drug. Even 10mg raises systolic BP and resting heart rate. People who use more are the ones who also risk gyno issues.

Yeah bro I kept it at 10mg and had to drop it due to my systolic. Couldn’t imagine running some of the doses I hear guys talk about lol. If it didn’t mess with my BP I would have kept running it , felt really good mentally and it gave a great cosmetic effect as well.

 

[sliderke]

Started ment 2 days ago on 5mg daily. Too early to say anything apart from libifo already up. Damn. Will wait a week and then go to 10 mg.

 

[Photon]

I'm not sure how true it is, since it can't be tested. I'm running 1g of EQ right now, which pretty much crashes my E2. I'm using Trest D to try to make up for the E2 but if what you say is true, then it wont do anything..Maybe a way to test this is to take a crap load of dbol and see if i turn into a balloon.

I'm on 1g TestD + 1g EQ now.
E2 is pretty much crashed.

At 50mg of Trest D weekly, no itchy nips. At 80mg a week, itchy nips.
Not gyno prone, so I'm sure some conversion is taking place.

Cilidipine 10mg is enough to keep me ~ 110/60.
On TRT I don't need any bp meds, drives me hypotensive.

Either way, just an interesting experiment. Not sure if i'll run it in future again given how the only Trest D seller is gone.