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tri-tren,my new year cycle
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hello,just odering my gear
tri tren 200 - 75 mg tren a 75mg tren E 50 mg tren h
i have used tren before but only low doses:drooling: and not in bulking
1-16 week Test E 1g/week
1-2 week Tritren 200mg/ed
3-14 TRITREN 200 mg /EOD
Please comment guysopcorn:
Gotta heavy frontload on the tren blend huh? Personally I'd frontload test prop or dbol (some form of test).
Why the tren front load?
because it has tren h and tren e and it take time to reach their peak levels
A frontload is not taking a steroid at double dosing for the first 2 weeks.
Ordinarily it is taking one half life's worth in the first injection, plus the usual injection. That's it.
This product cannot be exactly frontloaded because of being a mix of esters, and for this reason it is reasonable to approach it from the standpoint of having several days of injecting at a higher mg amount.
I'll figure tomorrow a reasonably close protocol. It would be a lot less than 2 weeks at double dosing.
Ordinarily it is taking one half life's worth in the first injection, plus the usual injection. That's it.
This product cannot be exactly frontloaded because of being a mix of esters, and for this reason it is reasonable to approach it from the standpoint of having several days of injecting at a higher mg amount.
I'll figure tomorrow a reasonably close protocol. It would be a lot less than 2 weeks at double dosing.
Thanks
Hey how about this cycle:
1-16 week tritren 200 EOD and sustanon 250 EOD mixed in same syringe:tiphat
I'd drop the Tren one week prior to dropping the Sust personally. Otherwise...looks solid.
I know the purpose of a front load, but there would be no need with tren...espically if it's a blend containing tren ace.
250 ml test e amp and 250 mg sust are of same prize here.. i know in 250 mg test e 175 mg is actual testostrerone and rest is ester,how much does testosterone is in sustanon?
should i replace susta with test e??
Thanks
Now that I've done some spreadsheet work with it, where the ongoing dose is 200 mg of Tritren every other day I'd do the frontload as 400 mg on Day 1, followed by 200 mg on Day 2, and then 200 mg every other day after that.
So basically in this case it comes out as double on Day 1, followed up by injecting the regular ongoing dose on Day 2 even though ordinarily the schedule is every other day, and then the frontload is complete and the schedule goes to every-other-day.
250 ml test e amp and 250 mg sust are of same prize here.. i know in 250 mg test e 175 mg is actual testostrerone and rest is ester,how much does testosterone is in sustanon?
should i replace susta with test e??
I'll figure that one for you also. I'm surprised, now that you raise the question, that I've never figured it before, but I never have. Eyeballing it, I expect that the percentage is going to be very similar. Basically they are dosed the same, never known anyone who adjusts the dose differently according to which of these they use, but there might be and probably is some small difference.
I would make the choice based on price and availability, and if price is the same, personally I go with enanthate but there is nothing wrong with Sustanon. Probably the reason for my preference is just that it's a little simpler, pharmacokinetics-wise, to wrap my head around
sustanon is 173.2 testosterone,just ordered 60 amps of sustanon and keeping everything simple shooting EOD (both)I'll figure that one for you also. I'm surprised, now that you raise the question, that I've never figured it before, but I never have. Eyeballing it, I expect that the percentage is going to be very similar. Basically they are dosed the same, never known anyone who adjusts the dose differently according to which of these they use, but there might be and probably is some small difference.
I would make the choice based on price and availability, and if price is the same, personally I go with enanthate but there is nothing wrong with Sustanon. Probably the reason for my preference is just that it's a little simpler, pharmacokinetics-wise, to wrap my head around
That will work fine.
You could follow nearly the same frontloading method with the Sustanon as well, but injecting triple on the first day rather than the double as with the Tritren. Then, as with the Tritren, starting EOD use with the regular dose the very next day. It would be close enough, and would keep things simple.
You could follow nearly the same frontloading method with the Sustanon as well, but injecting triple on the first day rather than the double as with the Tritren. Then, as with the Tritren, starting EOD use with the regular dose the very next day. It would be close enough, and would keep things simple.
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thanks
Glad to help!
Front-loading formula taken from WarriorFX.com
Front loading gets the cycle started quicker – while the body is most receptive of growth cues. Also, a quicker onset can present an option for shorter cycle duration; resulting in less impact to the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis for easier post-cycle recovery of natural androgen production.
Normally, the same drug administered during the cycle is used to front load. The perfect front-load can be accurately calculated for stable release using figures and charts, but it’s cumbersome. There is some simplified guidance for front loading a heavy-ester cycle. First, calculate weekly use; administering 250 milligrams of testosterone enanthate every three days is equal to 583 milligrams per week (250/3*7). Then, double the weekly use and administer that amount prior to the first half life from the first injection – around four days for testosterone enanthate. Alternatively, the same compound with a lighter ester can be used, such as acetate or propionate.
According to basic pharmacology, a single dose of 250mg of testosterone enanthate will deliver the parent hormone at it’s highest values the first 10 days; around 31, 27, 23, 20, 18, 15, 13, 12, 10 and nine milligrams, respectfully. After 10 days, the amounts released become negligible. Repeated injections create an overlap that gradually builds up blood levels. Actual amounts are affected by the injection site and technique, personal differences in physiology and the sites body fat levels.
The above cycle illustrates testosterone enanthate administered at 250 milligrams every three days; with and without a front load. The front loaded portion was accurately configured and applied with 500 milligrams on day one, 250 milligrams on day two, a day off and then 250 milligrams every third day for the cycle’s duration. The front load is 1000 milligrams within the first four days – almost twice the weekly administered amount (583mg). Blood testosterone volume is immediately elevated and reasonably stable the first week with the front load.
Non-front-loaded administration did not elevate and stabilize blood levels until over three weeks after the cycle’s launch. This is why results normally don’t manifest themselves for many weeks without a proper front load.
I also found this link to this stupid question!
Stupid Question - Anabolic Steroids - Steroid Forums
Front loading gets the cycle started quicker – while the body is most receptive of growth cues. Also, a quicker onset can present an option for shorter cycle duration; resulting in less impact to the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis for easier post-cycle recovery of natural androgen production.
Normally, the same drug administered during the cycle is used to front load. The perfect front-load can be accurately calculated for stable release using figures and charts, but it’s cumbersome. There is some simplified guidance for front loading a heavy-ester cycle. First, calculate weekly use; administering 250 milligrams of testosterone enanthate every three days is equal to 583 milligrams per week (250/3*7). Then, double the weekly use and administer that amount prior to the first half life from the first injection – around four days for testosterone enanthate. Alternatively, the same compound with a lighter ester can be used, such as acetate or propionate.
According to basic pharmacology, a single dose of 250mg of testosterone enanthate will deliver the parent hormone at it’s highest values the first 10 days; around 31, 27, 23, 20, 18, 15, 13, 12, 10 and nine milligrams, respectfully. After 10 days, the amounts released become negligible. Repeated injections create an overlap that gradually builds up blood levels. Actual amounts are affected by the injection site and technique, personal differences in physiology and the sites body fat levels.
The above cycle illustrates testosterone enanthate administered at 250 milligrams every three days; with and without a front load. The front loaded portion was accurately configured and applied with 500 milligrams on day one, 250 milligrams on day two, a day off and then 250 milligrams every third day for the cycle’s duration. The front load is 1000 milligrams within the first four days – almost twice the weekly administered amount (583mg). Blood testosterone volume is immediately elevated and reasonably stable the first week with the front load.
Non-front-loaded administration did not elevate and stabilize blood levels until over three weeks after the cycle’s launch. This is why results normally don’t manifest themselves for many weeks without a proper front load.
I also found this link to this stupid question!
Stupid Question - Anabolic Steroids - Steroid Forums
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It winds up being a little trickier with blended compounds.
For example, say one was using (perhaps because it was what was on hand) trenbolone acetate at 50 mg/day plus trenbolone enanthate at 100 mg EOD among the drugs being used.
Now if frontloading the TA, the amount would be 100 mg on Day 1.
If frontloading the TE, the amount would be about 300 mg on Day 1.
But let's say the product (this would be different than anyone does, but it's convenient for the illustration) has 100 mg/mL TA and 100 mg/mL TE.
There's no mL amount that provides the correct frontload for TA and TE simultaneously.
Anything that "loads up" TE enough on Day 1 is going to overdo the TA.
So one needs to do it a little differently, as in the above posts.
For example, say one was using (perhaps because it was what was on hand) trenbolone acetate at 50 mg/day plus trenbolone enanthate at 100 mg EOD among the drugs being used.
Now if frontloading the TA, the amount would be 100 mg on Day 1.
If frontloading the TE, the amount would be about 300 mg on Day 1.
But let's say the product (this would be different than anyone does, but it's convenient for the illustration) has 100 mg/mL TA and 100 mg/mL TE.
There's no mL amount that provides the correct frontload for TA and TE simultaneously.
Anything that "loads up" TE enough on Day 1 is going to overdo the TA.
So one needs to do it a little differently, as in the above posts.
Makes sence...kinda, lol...I really don't see (on a 10+ week cycle) the need to heavly front-load. Now, if you are running a 6 week cycle with a long ester like Test E, then I think you have to front load heavy....agree or disagree Bill?
One doesn't have to, but why not get get good results quickly rather than have the first two weeks, sometimes even three, be weak?
touche :tiphat
