Cycle Plan for Fat Loss & Muscle Retention (Feedback Request)

[AlwaysHungry]

Test var GH a fat burner if you want you’re golden ditch the MK it’s only good while bulking

 

[SulekJr]

Thanks, decided on staying off test and just doing fasts with the help of retatrutide. Hopefully i can retain some muscle with training.

Honestly if you're 30kg overweight, I think TRT would be massively important to include, especially if you'll be fasting. I also lost 110lb from 310 to 200 over 8 months using fasts (but not PSMFs) when I was natural and lost so much muscle that my bench press max dropped almost 100lbs. When I did the other cut on TRT, it was insane how much more muscle I retained. You can always PCT later or just say fuggit and go on TRT anyways because being 30kg overweight probably isn't great on your test levels anyway. Either way good luck and you should make a log on here where people can help you and monitor your progress.

 

[Anat]

Let’s start with setting realistic expectations. If you’re aiming to lose 25-30kg of fat (which is 55-70lbs for the US folks), you’re looking at at least a year to do it in a way that doesn’t wreck your body. Your current cycle plan doesn’t really align with your goal.

First, drop the HGH - at the doses you’re considering, it’s more likely to cause water retention, which will mess with the scale and probably demotivate you. Since you’re dealing with obesity, unnecessary water weight fluctuations won’t help your mindset.

Clenbuterol? Forget it. It’s not worth touching until you’re around 10-12% body fat. At higher body fat percentages, it’s just extra stress on your heart for minimal extra fat loss.

For GLP-1s, I’d go with Tirz over Reta - it suppresses appetite better and offers superior blood sugar control, which is exactly what you need.

Anavar? Useless here. All you’ll do is mess up your lipid profile for no real benefit.

MK-677? Straight to the trash.

Test E at 300mg? It’s fine, but in your case, I’d lean more towards a low-dose TRT protocol instead of a full cycle.

What you actually need:

1. Diet: If you want fast and effective results, RFL is the way to go. You’re in Category 3, so you can safely do 12 weeks, then take a 3-4 week maintenance phase, and repeat for another 12 weeks.

2. Training: 3x per week strength training. Keep it simple.

3. Steps, steps, steps. Start with 5,000-6,000 per day, increasing weekly.

4. Cardio? On RFL, it’s questionable, but 3x per week low-intensity (45-60 min) can be added if you want.

Focus on diet and consistency before throwing in unnecessary compounds. The goal is fat loss, not playing chemist.

 

[Wombr]

Let’s start with setting realistic expectations. If you’re aiming to lose 25-30kg of fat (which is 55-70lbs for the US folks), you’re looking at at least a year to do it in a way that doesn’t wreck your body. Your current cycle plan doesn’t really align with your goal.

First, drop the HGH - at the doses you’re considering, it’s more likely to cause water retention, which will mess with the scale and probably demotivate you. Since you’re dealing with obesity, unnecessary water weight fluctuations won’t help your mindset.

Clenbuterol? Forget it. It’s not worth touching until you’re around 10-12% body fat. At higher body fat percentages, it’s just extra stress on your heart for minimal extra fat loss.

For GLP-1s, I’d go with Tirz over Reta - it suppresses appetite better and offers superior blood sugar control, which is exactly what you need.

Anavar? Useless here. All you’ll do is mess up your lipid profile for no real benefit.

MK-677? Straight to the trash.

Test E at 300mg? It’s fine, but in your case, I’d lean more towards a low-dose TRT protocol instead of a full cycle.

What you actually need:

1. Diet: If you want fast and effective results, RFL is the way to go. You’re in Category 3, so you can safely do 12 weeks, then take a 3-4 week maintenance phase, and repeat for another 12 weeks.

2. Training: 3x per week strength training. Keep it simple.

3. Steps, steps, steps. Start with 5,000-6,000 per day, increasing weekly.

4. Cardio? On RFL, it’s questionable, but 3x per week low-intensity (45-60 min) can be added if you want.

Focus on diet and consistency before throwing in unnecessary compounds. The goal is fat loss, not playing chemist.

Thanks, very helpful. I’ll stay away from everything except reta/tirz.

 

[Anat]

Thanks, very helpful. I’ll stay away from everything except reta/tirz.

If you’re serious about this, check out Lyle McDonald’s book - it’s $20 on Amazon, which isn’t much for solid knowledge:

Amazon.com

If you’re outside the US or don’t want to spend $20, there’s a 3-hour podcast covering the same principles. It’s long, but you’ll learn a lot:

View: https://youtu.be/t7T6Dii-90Q?si=nFD7QNl3YaA062kj


Discipline and consistency are what will get you there - stick with it, and you’ll be shocked at how fast the fat melts away.

 

[krvuxn]

When I first started, I lost 20kg of fat using 325 test, 100 primo and 20 Anavar. You don’t need all of the other stuff. Especially the mk would be a mistake because it makes you hungry.