bananafeet
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Mirtazapine when it arrives will put your ass to sleep haha
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Anabolic Steroids
Tried Tren for a bulk- possibly switching to NPP
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syuri
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I'm extremely stoked to try it. My order from 24x7 better come quick dammit.
bananafeet
Member
Might be quicker to ask your PCP/GP. Freight is slow from India at the moment. Everything is backed up because of Christmas.
It's a commonly prescribed anti depressant. Often added to offset side effects or used by itself.
View: https://youtu.be/MoskJDgYz7Q
This grumpy old barstard does very good criticism of drugs. Unfortunately he has now passed away. I've watched every single video he made lol
syuri
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Okay. This is more me going off about my dumb issues but my new cycle:
175 Test
350 NPP but will bump higher if sides allow
(5mg tirz but this is my maintenance dose for lipids and such, I don’t mention it too often.)
Tren has fucked my sleep. I’m gonna shelve it for my cut and when my Mirtazapine comes in. Completely dropping it for now, would rather use it and harm my lipids when I actually wanna maximize the glucocorticoid receptor agonism for my shred.
Went to the local dispensary and picked up some CBD gummies and an Indica cart. Will be using these for sleep in the meantime.
Started lexapro today aswell. No changes in mood or anything. It’s day one though so we’ll see how that goes.
I see my PCP tomorrow morning at 9. Going to discuss possible medications for my anxiety and sleep. My doc’s pretty stingy and uninformed with these brain altering drugs so bargaining for a swap isn’t an easy feat, but I know I’ll figure out how to get by.
For now, I have got to let the test do it’s thing and the NPP time to saturate. 50 mgs daily. Can’t wait to see how it does me. Cheers to the SSRI’s and 19nors!
175 Test
350 NPP but will bump higher if sides allow
(5mg tirz but this is my maintenance dose for lipids and such, I don’t mention it too often.)
Tren has fucked my sleep. I’m gonna shelve it for my cut and when my Mirtazapine comes in. Completely dropping it for now, would rather use it and harm my lipids when I actually wanna maximize the glucocorticoid receptor agonism for my shred.
Went to the local dispensary and picked up some CBD gummies and an Indica cart. Will be using these for sleep in the meantime.
Started lexapro today aswell. No changes in mood or anything. It’s day one though so we’ll see how that goes.
I see my PCP tomorrow morning at 9. Going to discuss possible medications for my anxiety and sleep. My doc’s pretty stingy and uninformed with these brain altering drugs so bargaining for a swap isn’t an easy feat, but I know I’ll figure out how to get by.
For now, I have got to let the test do it’s thing and the NPP time to saturate. 50 mgs daily. Can’t wait to see how it does me. Cheers to the SSRI’s and 19nors!
syuri
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Damn that CBD hit last night. 10mgs for the first time and I felt calm. Slept pretty damn good and I'm grateful for that. Day 2 of NPP- 2nd pin of 50mgs.
Just riding it out and seeing how it does me.
Also interested in seeing any mental changes from Lexapro- I felt more angered last night pre CBD. Not sure if that's a change
Just riding it out and seeing how it does me.
Also interested in seeing any mental changes from Lexapro- I felt more angered last night pre CBD. Not sure if that's a change
syuri
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Day 3:
Ended up having some funky mood swings- Assumably from Lexapro? Still waiting for another appointment with my PCP to discuss other SSRI’s. I’d probably say Lexapro didn’t work for me. I feel slightly less on edge.
Ended up smoking last night to sleep. Helped a lot. Got some CBN gummies which I hear are great for sleep maintenance. Trying one tonight. 10mgs.
NPP hasn’t saturated me yet. I usually don’t get mental sides from it. Gotta give it time for the gains.
Having a good time other than that. Hope Lexapro works it’s magic and relieves my daytime anxiety soon, currently on 5mgs… I’d rather know it does something for me at this dose than spend more time going up in dose- seems like a waste of time in terms of how I could be swapping to a more effective SSRI within the timeframe.
Ended up having some funky mood swings- Assumably from Lexapro? Still waiting for another appointment with my PCP to discuss other SSRI’s. I’d probably say Lexapro didn’t work for me. I feel slightly less on edge.
Ended up smoking last night to sleep. Helped a lot. Got some CBN gummies which I hear are great for sleep maintenance. Trying one tonight. 10mgs.
NPP hasn’t saturated me yet. I usually don’t get mental sides from it. Gotta give it time for the gains.
Having a good time other than that. Hope Lexapro works it’s magic and relieves my daytime anxiety soon, currently on 5mgs… I’d rather know it does something for me at this dose than spend more time going up in dose- seems like a waste of time in terms of how I could be swapping to a more effective SSRI within the timeframe.
bananafeet
Member
It takes several weeks for them to work properly. Don't get caught up in the different brands. They all roughly work the same...
syuri
Member
Will note that down. I just hope I start to feel this Lexapro soon then
On the bright side, I got tracking for my PCT24X7 order. With delays though, I’m not expecting a miracle lol
bananafeet
Member
If your bored you can read this. I've attached it because it was removed from their website.Will note that down. I just hope I start to feel this Lexapro soon then
On the bright side, I got tracking for my PCT24X7 order. With delays though, I’m not expecting a miracle lol
It covers almost everything a lay persons needs to know.
syuri
Member
Thanks. I’ll read it right now actually- I’m unwinding in for bed
Yes, you need Reverse T3 to accurately see where the dosing of T3 is going. RT3 is Anti-T3. It’s your body’s brake pedal on metabolism. You can get RT3 elevations with micronutrient deficiency or when stress is up. Your addition of T3 is what’s driving down TSH so low. Don’t let that go under 0.5 or you’ll be hyper. You want Free, T4 at 1.1 or higher and free, T3 at 3.4 or higher (assuming no hyper symptoms). TSH between .5-2.0 ( I place mine between 1-2 though). All of these compounds you're throwing in will change your metabolic profile. So it’s really hard to say exactly what to manipulate. I’d be careful about just throwing things in. Also marijuana causes elevations in prolactin in some individuals which can skew thyroid parameters. You got too many cards in the game to say with 100% certainty where it’s coming from. Next time you pull labs though you need TSH, FT4, FT3, and RT3. Hope this gives you some direction. I have Hashimotos and manage it myself because every doctor that I’ve been to doesn’t know wtf they are doing
osqe
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Before considering an SSRI/SNRI, get Genesight testing to find out which one your body will respond to. My results showed I wouldn't respond to around 23 of the 60 antidepressants they test for. Ended up not taking anything.
syuri
Member
Those labs were before I added exogenous T3, any difference?
syuri
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Interesting, I’ll ask my PCP. Next appointment I got is on the 29th.
Since I’m here- here’s some updates.
I feel less on edge- approaching nearly a week on NPP and Lexapro. Admittedly I’ve been smoking myself to sleep this past week. I find myself sleeping easier and staying asleep when I do. I’m waiting on a CBD/CBN cart I ordered so I can quit and use those for sleep. Definitely noticing more mood swings. Not much from the NPP yet.
Cycle: 175 Test, 420 NPP
I’m having trouble finding your thyroid markers. What were the levels pre T3 vs now? Your TSH looks like it’s optimized but your T4 and T3 appear hypo in the pics you uploaded. This can absolutely give you depression, stress, and anxiety. This can also mess with sex drive and give you ED. The thyroid levels being low will also limit how much you get out of your gear. Low thyroid can also raise prolactin. It also shifts glucose and cholesterol metabolism and can cause elevations in these. T3 is the body’s main aromatase inhibitor as well. When I was hypo I had a 216 E2 on 210mg/week Test Cyp.
As for the weed, I get it! I used to be the same way. It seemed like it helped me on the surface but actually made things worse. It’s hard to say for sure as everyone is different. I’m not completely sure if CBN/CBD would be subject to this as well. I’m pretty sure it’s mostly to do with dopamine transmission for the weed/ prolactin interplay.
Have you considered using T4 over the T3 to start? T4 is your bank that feeds T3 (active metabolism). In a healthy individual that doesn’t have autoimmune activity, your body converts the T4 into T3 as needed via the deiodinase enzyme. It converts the T4 as needed into T3 and won’t be so suppressive on your TSH. You want to make sure you have adequate micronutrients for proper conversion (Selenium, Zinc, Iron, Iodine). Some people need the T3 as well. But it might be easier in your case to hit the target/ assess what’s going on with T4 first.
You mentioned members in your family passing at a young age. If thyroid issues run in your family, this could be the killer right here. Because eventually thyroid issues will lead to diabetes, cardiovascular issues, etc… due to the metabolism shifts in these biomarkers
Mfras
Member
How long has the NPP been in? It usually hits pretty hard for me with stubborn reps climbing and feeling like easy work in 2-3 weeks.
syuri
Member
Yeah. I’m not fully sure but I believe thyroid issues run in my family. I believe my body struggles to convert T4 into T3. I always ran cold, felt like shit and never have had a libido. Since adding T3 I feel more energy, I’m actually sweating normally now (I didn’t before) and feel a slight libido. I have been taking a thyroid supplement with all the essentials for thyroid function as you mentioned and it hadn’t done anything for me unfortunately.
But thank you for your reply- a lot of the things you mentioned align with my issues… It’s scary.
As for the weed, I ordered a CBD/CBN vape to try and get off of it, now waiting for it to come in. It’s really helped me relax as of late haha
syuri
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Around a week now… No water weight differences yet, pinned 60 ED. What do you notice from it personally? This is my first experience running it high with a low test base to prevent E2 issues. Not feeling much from it. I know it’s legit too because It’s from Primal- I always get my gear from them and they’ve never done me wrong.
