TRT Patient doing first REALLY big cycle...

[Spokeonawheel]

Mast is good between 300 to 600 mg. 300 being the lowest I have noticed good effect from.

I've never ran less than 700 EQ, and even at high doses wasnt impressed with it. I dont bother with it anymore. However, I was higher BF when I ran it. It may shine with lower BF.

So my experience with those 2 is like this: I've ran mast at lower BF and loved the hardening look and such. I ran EQ at higher BF and didnt notice much.. my entire view of the compound may be skewed as a result.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Mast is good between 300 to 600 mg. 300 being the lowest I have noticed good effect from.

I've never ran less than 700 EQ, and even at high doses wasnt impressed with it. I dont bother with it anymore. However, I was higher BF when I ran it. It may shine with lower BF.

So my experience with those 2 is like this: I've ran mast at lower BF and loved the hardening look and such. I ran EQ at higher BF and didnt notice much.. my entire view of the compound may be skewed as a result.

I totally understand that… I appreciate the honest feedback. I will keep that in mind as I start the cycle for sure.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Here are my macros for the last two days if anyone was wondering about my intake and breakdown.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Just got a tracking number for my shipment...should land this Monday!! So I guess cycle starts next week.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Christmas came early!!! lol

I’ll still be waiting till Monday to kick the tires but everything is here.

 

[Savagesteve]

Also after taking in all the great feedback here and reading some other logs I’ve decided to restructure my stack to look like this...only last possible change will be the orals. If I’m dumb for running an oral for the whole cycle tell me and I’ll think about changing it up. But to Macs point I want o start with a weaker oral and bump up to a stronger one to help blast through any plateaus I hit mid cycle...also I’m dropping the NPP completely.

Weeks 1-6
Test - 700
Eq - 300
Mast - 300
D-bol - 50mg ED

Weeks 7-12
Test - 700
Eq - 300
Mast - 300
Anadrol - 50 ED
Tren - 250

HGH 2ius per day for 4 weeks and if no noticeable sides or BG issues then bump it out to 4ius per day sub-q

Thoughts??

12 weeks of orals? I’d hate to be your lipids and liver

 

[BigBoy_21]

12 weeks of orals? I’d hate to be your lipids and liver

I actually really thought that. I decided to just do the Anadrol for eight weeks and it’s injectable Anadrol not oral.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Started my cycle last night. I’m doing nighttime injections on my anabolic‘s since I am out in the gym by 5:30 in the morning. I decided to cut my harder chemicals and have to start and I’ll titrate up over the next couple of weeks to the full dosage.

Test Prop:

Wk. 1 - 50mg day

Tren A: Mon - Fri

Wk. 1 - 25mg day

EQ: M/W/F

Wk. 1-12 - 100mg day

Anadrol: Mon - Fri

Wk. 1-8 - 50mg before bed


Masteron: M/W/F

Wk.1-12 - 100mg day

GH:

2iu AM

 

[BigBoy_21]

Monday Workout:
Bench Press 4 x 6
275-6
295-6
315-6
320-6

Incline Dumbbell Press 4 x 8-10
80-10
90-8
90-7+1
90-7+1

Cable Flyes 4 x 10-12* (dropset)
60-12
60-12
60-12
60-12/10/9

Hammer Strength Chest Press 3 x 15* (Machine) (Dropset)
135-15
135-15
135-15/12/10

Cable Pressdowns 3 x 10** (rest pause)
150-10
150-10
150-10/10

Preacher Curls 3 x 10** (rest pause)
60-10
75-10
90-10

 

[Tren91]

It looks good my friend.Only thing that kinda bothers me is your perfect numbers for repetitions of every set.I don't know what kind of periodization you use but,from what i see i think you are stopping yourself too early in the set when probably you can do 2-3 reps more with a good form.Also seems a lot of volume maybe that's why you stop earlier?
Anyway i hope you understand what i try to say,know my English is bad.

 

[BigBoy_21]

It looks good my friend.Only thing that kinda bothers me is your perfect numbers for repetitions of every set.I don't know what kind of periodization you use but,from what i see i think you are stopping yourself too early in the set when probably you can do 2-3 reps more with a good form.Also seems a lot of volume maybe that's why you stop earlier?
Anyway i hope you understand what i try to say,know my English is bad.

I got all of that. Definitely need to push out a few more reps on some of those excursuses or up the weight. I just started this new workout so I was not sure how hard it would be but Ive got a pretty good feel for it now.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Today’s workout...

Back & Quads

Barbell Rows 5 x 5
185-5
205-5
215-5
225-5
225-4+1

Dumbbell Rows 4 x 6
100-6
100-6
100-6
110-6

Seated Rows 4 x 8-10*
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10/8/6

Lat Pulldowns 3 x 10-12*
140-12
140-10
140-8/5/5

Cable Pullovers 3 x 15
120-15
130-15
140-12

Leg Extensions 7 x 15*
165-15
165-15
165-15
165-15
180-15
180-15
180-15/5/5

 

[BigBoy_21]

Shoulders and Some Back

Seated Dumbbell Press 4 x 8
70-8
70-8
80-8
80-8

Lateral Raises 4 x 10
30-10
35-10
35-10
35-10

Bent-over Raises 4 x 12 (Machine)
150-12
150-12
150-12
150-12

Reverse Grip Barbell Rows 4 x 15
135-15
135–15
155-14+1
155-13+2

Close-Grip Lat Pulldowns 4 x 15
100-15
100-15
100-15
100-15

 

[BigBoy_21]

I got my hands on some igf-1. Has anyone ever used it to bring up lagging parts?

 

[BigBoy_21]

Tweaked my back playing softball Tuesday night. Had to do my arm workout and drop deadlifts today instead of legs.

Even had to cut it short with my back locking up. Gonna take the next 3 days off and see if it’ll loosen up some.

Seated Overhead DB Extensions 4 x 8-10
75-10
75-10
80-10
90-10

Barbell Curls 4 x 8-10
105-10
110-10
110-10
110-8+2

Rope Pressdowns 4 x 10-12*
150-12
150-12
150-12
150-12/5/3

Dumbbell Hammer Curls 4 x 10-12*
45-12
45-12
45-12
45-12

 

[BigBoy_21]

Started IGF-1 LR3 yesterday. Taking 50mcg pre-workout IM into training muscle. Back felt better today so I went and did some legs...not as intense as usual but didn’t want to miss a full day.


Squats 5 x 6-8
225-8
275-8
315-6
365-6
385-6

Leg Press 4x8
405-8
495-8
585-8
585-7+1

Stiff-leg Deadlifts 4 x 10 (Didn’t Do)

Leg Extensions 4 x 12*

180-12
180-12
195-12
195-12

Leg Curls 4 x 12*
150-12
150-12
165-12
165-12

Standing Calve Raises 5 x 12**
6-12
6-10
5-12
5-11
4-11/9

 

[BigBoy_21]

Today marks 1 full week into cycle.

Feeling an extra kick in the gym and the weights are moving a little easier. Sweating like I stole something anytime I do any physical activity.

Bumped up the dosages of the prop and anadrol this week and if I feel good I’ll do it one more time and then cruise.

Here are my workout numbers from today...

Chest and Some Arms


Bench Press 4 x 6
275-6
295-6
315-6
325-6

Incline Dumbbell Press 4 x 8-10
90-10
90-10
90-10
90-8+2


Cable Flyes 4 x 10-12*
60-12
60-12
60-12
60-12

Hammer Strength Chest Press 3 x 15* (Machine)
150-15
150-15
150-15/10

Cable Pressdowns 3 x 10**
150-10
150-10
150-10/4

Preacher Curls 3 x 10** (Single arm)
40-10
40-10
40-10/3

 

[BigBoy_21]

Oh and weight is up from 248lbs --> 251lbs.

 

[BigBoy_21]

Back and Some Quads

Barbell Rows 5 x 5
205-5
215-5
225-5
225-5
225-5

Dumbbell Rows 4 x 6
100-6
110-6
110-6
110-6

Seated Rows 4 x 8-10*
180-10
180-10
180-10
180-10/7/5

Lat Pulldowns 3 x 10-12*
140-12
150-12
150-12/7/5

Cable Pullovers 3 x 15
130-15
130-15
130-15

Leg Extensions 7 x 15*
180-15
180-15
180-15
185-15
185-15
190-15
190-15/15/15

 

[BigBoy_21]

Shoulders and Some Back

Seated Dumbbell Press 4 x 8 (Machine)
165-10
195-8
210-8
210-8

Lateral Raises 4 x 10
35-10
35-10
35-10
35-10

Bent-over Raises 4 x 12 (Machine)
150-12
150-12
150-12
150-12

Reverse Grip Barbell Rows 4 x 15 (Machine)
165-15
165-15
165-15
165-15

Close-Grip Lat Pulldowns 4 x 15
100-15
100-15
100-15
100-15