Turkeybuilder's first cycle! SUBQ ONLY!

[Turkeybuilder]

Hello,

I will be using this thread as a progress update on my cycle. I will be doing a 500mg test cyp/wk cycle for 12-16 weeks doing daily sub-q injections rotating between outer thighs and upper glutes.

Why sub-q you must ask? Because I want to. I drew some baseline labs today which i'll post when I get the results (on 175mg/wk test cyp). I'll be doing labs 4 weeks in to see my numbers.
I'm hoping with doing daily injections plus the fact that they are sub-q, I will not require an AI during this cycle.

I plan to start my cycle on: November 9th

Other compounds I will be on during this cycle:

HCG 250iu EOD
L-Carnitine 600mg Daily
Reta 4mg every 6 days
MT2 every 10 days to maintain my sexy bronze color.

Starting stats:
5'7 and a half
165LB
6.5 inch dick
14-16% BF

 

[Deadpool99]

Hello,

I will be using this thread as a progress update on my cycle. I will be doing a 500mg test cyp/wk cycle for 12-16 weeks doing daily sub-q injections rotating between outer thighs and upper glutes.

Why sub-q you must ask? Because I want to. I drew some baseline labs today which i'll post when I get the results (on 175mg/wk test cyp). I'll be doing labs 4 weeks in to see my numbers.
I'm hoping with doing daily injections plus the fact that they are sub-q, I will not require an AI during this cycle.

I plan to start my cycle on: November 9th

Other compounds I will be on during this cycle:

HCG 250iu EOD
L-Carnitine 600mg Daily
Reta 4mg every 6 days
MT2 every 10 days to maintain my sexy bronze color.

Starting stats:
5'7 and a half
165LB
6.5 inch dick
14-16% BF

Good luck!

Out of curiosity, do you have any other cycle support?

Anything to help with lipids/liver?

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Good luck!

Out of curiosity, do you have any other cycle support?

Anything to help with lipids/liver?

No i dont actually maybe I should. I know reta helps a little too

My lipids are fine now but that doesn’t mean they will be on cycle. (HDL 47, LDL 85, total 151)

 

[sionnach]

Get a dexa now before you start. Way better to measure progress, the mirror is a lie.
Also is that last bit length or circumference?

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Get a dexa now before you start. Way better to measure progress, the mirror is a lie.

I dont think i care enough to dexa to be completely transparent. Im not tooooo worried about my actual numerical composition as opposed to how I feel when I look at myself in the mirror

Also is that last bit length or circumference?

I lied. 1.5” length

 

[Tdeck81]

I lied. 1.5” length

Stop being modest, we ALL know ur a much bigger dicker than that.

 

[sionnach]

I dont think i care enough to dexa to be completely transparent.

You'll regret not having baseline data when you get yuge and stronk.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

You'll regret not having baseline data when you get yuge and stronk.

Mm you may be right lol
I wonder how much those cost anyway
My “baseline data” for now is labs that should result sometime this morning (i’ll post here) and a posing routine

 

[SnowyMiami]

Subq is retarded. Deep intramuscular or don't bother. Use the drug as designed. You do not know better than the pharma companies that spent millions studying them.

 

[BigDadd7]

Subq is retarded. Deep intramuscular or don't bother. Use the drug as designed. You do not know better than the pharma companies that spent millions studying them.

I agree 100%

 

[Eddie.]

Subq is retarded. Deep intramuscular or don't bother. Use the drug as designed. You do not know better than the pharma companies that spent millions studying them.

Subc test injections have been approved and pharma companies sell it already in form of pens. Retarded is staying back when research and science is moving forward.

 

[Tdeck81]

Bottom line you have to start somewhere. I wanted to do subq initially but it didn’t agree with me. I went to IM injections and haven’t had any issues. Just be consistent with your injection schedule and learn as you go.

 

[sionnach]

Mm you may be right lol
I wonder how much those cost anyway

Several companies are offering them for under 50 bucks these days.

 

[Photon]

Subc test injections have been approved and pharma companies sell it already in form of pens. Retarded is staying back when research and science is moving forward.

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I've always considered putting oils into insulin pens, but the pens apparently melt when left exposed to the oils over time. Maybe the solution is a low concentration with zero solvents..and sesame oil..

 

[Eddie.]

I've always considered putting oils into insulin pens, but the pens apparently melt when left exposed to the oils over time. Maybe the solution is a low concentration with zero solvents..and sesame oil..

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This one comes in 3 different concentrations, 100/150/200 per ml. No BA is common in amps which are meant to use all at once, i guess you could skip BB too with low concentration, right? Wouldn't MCT work better since it's thinner?

 

[IndividualMan]

no BA is important for any plastic pens, I tried loading one of my insulin pens with TNE (4%BA, 22% BB, GSO) and it ate through the rubber in less than 3 wks of cold storage
Castor+0.5%BA+4%BB @ 100mg/ml is holding up fine atm. no part of the pen has visibly melted (yet)

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Subq is retarded. Deep intramuscular or don't bother. Use the drug as designed. You do not know better than the pharma companies that spent millions studying them.

Well i’ll be the human research experiment then so we can all see how well a sub-q test only cycle works! You won’t convince me to not do sub-q for my test.

And it’s not that I don’t want to do IM, I do daily IM L carn, i just know how my body responds to sub-q test and I’d rather stick with what I know than to add another variable on top of a cycle.

 

[Turkeybuilder]

Side note when I first started TRT I would have loved if someone posted a full log / progress report with labs on a sub-q only cycle to see how tolerable it is. In the name of harm reduction, (does this earn me reaction privledges?) i will self experiment and give you guys the results!

 

[Photon]

This one comes in 3 different concentrations, 100/150/200 per ml. No BA is common in amps which are meant to use all at once, i guess you could skip BB too with low concentration, right? Wouldn't MCT work better since it's thinner?

MCT oil is much better at dissolving plastic.
These pens do not have solvents or MCT, probably to prevent crap from melting. The insulin pens we use barely last a month before they start melting lol..

no BA is important for any plastic pens, I tried loading one of my insulin pens with TNE (4%BA, 22% BB, GSO) and it ate through the rubber in less than 3 wks of cold storage
Castor+0.5%BA+4%BB @ 100mg/ml is holding up fine atm. no part of the pen has visibly melted (yet)

I'll ping you in your other thread..

 

[Eddie.]

MCT oil is much better at dissolving plastic.
These pens do not have solvents or MCT, probably to prevent crap from melting. The insulin pens we use barely last a month before they start melting lol..

About that, I’ve heard vigorous saying it but didn’t mention it since in finished oils with MCT there’s always BA and BB and perhaps that speeds up the degradation faster than solo MCT. But you obviously know better than I do. I haven’t left oil in slin pins more than 10 days.