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I understand how it appears to you. I can only assume you have little experience on other forums. Try eroids. There you wont see the members attacking a UGL for info, there they wont interrogate the UGL for information BUT its there where you will get ripped off and fucked because they dont.

If you have a better solution then trust us we are all wanting to hear it, but Im going to go with the track record Meso has at protecting its members. And forums like Eroids can die by their record.

I understand how it works, believe me. My comment was really directed towards loveyourbody. He seems to go a little overboard and doesn't seem to know what's really going on. It comes off as flames rather than protecting the community. It's all about the approach in my eyes. The dude just rubs me the wrong way.
 
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Jesus Christ fella, get it together.

Hes attacking my comment to make his lab look good thats all hes doing. Swaying things in his direction. This whole thread helped. The info from him that was needed has been had. Now you guys have everything but an order to review.
 
Hes attacking my comment to make his lab look good thats all hes doing. Swaying things in his direction. This whole thread helped. The info from him that was needed has been had. Now you guys have everything but an order to review.

You truly have an overinflated sense of self. Youre oblivious to how you have injected yourself into this debate and the complete lack of any benefits its provided.

You have had it pointed out to you repeatedly yet react like you're being prosecuted due to a complete lack of any humility.

Ive had many employees work for me that are like you and I can say you have a very tough road to hoe. Its quite obvious you are from the "Y" generation and if you dont change your attitude in time youll be asking, "Y" did life leave me behind."

Im not flaming you or attacking you simply trying to offer up some advice. Im grateful there were guys older and wiser than me when I was a young punk to help me out and thats all Im attempting to do for you.

Sorry for going off topic...
 
I understand how it works, believe me. My comment was really directed towards loveyourbody. He seems to go a little overboard and doesn't seem to know what's really going on. It comes off as flames rather than protecting the community. It's all about the approach in my eyes. The dude just rubs me the wrong way.

I absolutely agree with that. Its truly about the approach. Hell Ive gone back and read shit Ive posted and thought I should have handled that differently. :D
 
You truly have an overinflated sense of self. Youre oblivious to how you have injected yourself into this debate and the complete lack of any benefits its provided.

You have had it pointed out to you repeatedly yet react like you're being prosecuted due to a complete lack of any humility.

Ive had many employees work for me that are like you and I can say you have a very tough road to hoe. Its quite obvious you are from the "Y" generation and if you dont change your attitude in time youll be asking, "Y" did life leave me behind."

Im not flaming you or attacking you simply trying to offer up some advice. Im grateful there were guys older and wiser than me when I was a young punk to help me out and thats all Im attempting to do for you.

Sorry for going off topic...


Its not a problem and I understand.
 
You guys act like police. It's weird. When sources show up you immediately try to chase them away with no valid reason. It's ok to question sources and probe to see if they seem legit. Some of you take it too far and just flame for the sake of flaming. Just because BB69 tells it how it is, doesn't mean you have to. He has a way with words. A lot of you other guy are clearly trying to be like him but you sound like idiots. If you're new to this game, that's fine. Learn when to drop shit. A lot of these sources turn out to be good. They're not all bad. Remember questioning is fine but bashing isn't necessary until they give you a reason to.

I realize some people don't have the stomach for what happens here and they aren't prepared for an uncensored discussion because they've never experienced it before on other (censored) forums. Meso probably isn't for everyone.


Meso is a tough nut for sources to crack - you'll get no argument there. But the overwhelming majority of sources that show up here are not viable for a whole host of reasons - from being inexperienced, fly-by-night operators that just scored some powder and a bathtub and think they can make a quick buck; to having weak or no security measures in place; to outright scammers. Meso's uncensored format gives us an opportunity to screen these sources; an opportunity we wouldn't have anywhere else. But, as rough and imperfect as Meso's vetting process is, it's all we have to weed out the garbage from the *good* sources. And it IS desperately needed.

Hercules managed to get a "mostly" free ride because he said all the right things and appeared to have it together. Vets that reviewed his free gear gave him credibility that he clearly didn't have. He proved to be nothing more than a smooth talking scammer that was able to fool a lot of people, including vets. Meso is determined to ensure that doesn't happen again.

So aside from Herc slipping through the cracks, our vetting process has been damn effective. If a few *good* sources get driven off because they can't take the heat, so be it. It's is a small price to pay to protect the members from the multitudes of snakes and vultures that are looking to take advantage of them and steal their hard earned money. As for the sources that have endured our vetting process AND survived, for the most part they have been gtg..

As Ben pointed out, Meso's SUF is just now hitting her stride. Word is getting around - new members continue to join and sources respect, but more importantly, fear this forum. Millard's experiment has proven to be a success. Hopefully, Meso's influence will change the way things are done on other boards - eventually. But for now, people are learning that there is another, *better* way of doing things than the stautus quo and it is all thanks to Millard for having the insight to see the need for this kind of discussion, and for being selfless enough to put the community ahead of his own interests by providing this forum for the discussion to take place. And it is only going to get better.

CBS
 
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Haha. Besides Herc slipping through the cracks you've done a good job? I'd say that's 50/50. Herc certainly got through and had vets saying he's good to go while plenty of good sources have been chased out(Humana, Naps before giving away free gear, YJ, etc.) The guys who do a good job do a GREAT job. My only problem is when some of these guys keep firing off at the mouth like they know what's up. Then you read their posts and they're clearly new to the game. I love Meso and how it operates. Let the experienced people of the game chase the bad sources out. A lot of these new guys are trying to fit in and yell at everyone that pops up. Get a little dialed in before blowing your top at every new source who shows up. It's lame. Experience can point out bullshit a mile away. Inexperienced guys should let experienced guys do the probing. This board will look like a joke if you chase off all the good sources and let guys like Herc make off with thousands. SteroidFax send out a bunch of under dosed and under filled vials. Some guy came here to "test" products recently and made off with se cash. Get a clue. The blueprint is good but some of the "contributors" are a little questionable at best. It almost looks like the community is looking out for just ONE source. It looks like a monopoly from the outside...just saying.
 
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Meso Security reminds me of going through the israeli air port.
They will stare you down hard, make you nervous and ask pointed questions as they hand you off from one to another. Its quite amazing.. :)
 
Haha. Besides Herc slipping through the cracks you've done a good job? I'd say that's 50/50. Herc certainly got through and had vets saying he's good to go while plenty of good sources have been chased out(Humana, Naps before giving away free gear, YJ, etc.) The guys who do a good job do a GREAT job. My only problem is when some of these guys keep firing off at the mouth like they know what's up. Then you read their posts and they're clearly new to the game. I love Meso and how it operates. Let the experienced people of the game chase the bad sources out. A lot of these new guys are trying to fit in and yell at everyone that pops up. Get a little dialed in before blowing your top at every new source who shows up. It's lame. Experience can point out bullshit a mile away. Inexperienced guys should let experienced guys do the probing. This board will look like a joke if you chase off all the good sources and let guys like Herc make off with thousands. SteroidFax send out a bunch of under dosed and under filled vials. Some guy came here to "test" products recently and made off with se cash. Get a clue. The blueprint is good but some of the "contributors" are a little questionable at best. It almost looks like the community is looking out for just ONE source. It looks like a monopoly from the outside...just saying.


I believe CBS already already explained that the process is not perfect and that if a few good sources get chased away so be it. Is it perfect? No and i don't think anyone claims that. Is it better than the alternatives out there? Yes i believe it is. I personally don't think this board is the problem. It appears that this is obviously not the place for you. You seem to want to be the back seat driver or the arm chair quarterback for how this boards works. I don't recall the methods of this board having to answer to what your standards of practice would dictate. In my opinion it's the best board out there and most members try their best to weed out the scam artists. Will a few good sources decide this place is not for them because of that? Yes and it does happen but as it has been previously stated that's just part of territory that comes with a uncensored board. You seem to prefer censorship in some way which makes me believe this place may not be for you.
 
There is really nothing that can be completely done to stop anyone from buying from untrusted sources. All that can be done here is some research and some good old fashion common sense. It's kind of like a medic on the battlefield...you attempt to save the people who can be saved ;)

I don't anticipate seeing any respected vet/member of this board running his gear. 1 or 2 others and myself were on to STP from the start and that did not stop people from ordering and they learned the hard way. He has a very long road ahead if he decides to stay here and push his gear.

Finding a truted source is indeed trial and error...once you've been around the forums a while you learn who is who and finding a source isn't hard....I still know some guys though who have been in the game a long while and still manage to get suckered or selective scammed....sad but true. Good post bro.
 
I believe CBS already already explained that the process is not perfect and that if a few good sources get chased away so be it. Is it perfect? No and i don't think anyone claims that. Is it better than the alternatives out there? Yes i believe it is. I personally don't think this board is the problem. It appears that this is obviously not the place for you. You seem to want to be the back seat driver or the arm chair quarterback for how this boards works. I don't recall the methods of this board having to answer to what your standards of practice would dictate. In my opinion it's the best board out there and most members try their best to weed out the scam artists. Will a few good sources decide this place is not for them because of that? Yes and it does happen but as it has been previously stated that's just part of territory that comes with a uncensored board. You seem to prefer censorship in some way which makes me believe this place may not be for you.

Haha. Ok. I'm entitled to an opinion. What's that have to do with being in favor of censored board? I never said that. I said that people are jumping on the bandwagon, flaming sources, with little knowledge of the game or who is legit and who isn't. Some of these veterans and senior members know when to jump on someone and when to sit back. This format is perfect. Some of the members are another story. There's a lot of new guys on here who don't know shit, throwing advise around and flaming every source that comes here. Bb69, dr Jim, Stretch, Millard, Mands, CBS etc. these are the guys whose advise is good. A lot of you other guys just sit around and talk shit.
 
Haha. Ok. I'm entitled to an opinion. What's that have to do with being in favor of censored board? I never said that. I said that people are jumping on the bandwagon, flaming sources, with little knowledge of the game or who is legit and who isn't. Some of these veterans and senior members know when to jump on someone and when to sit back. This format is perfect. Some of the members are another story. There's a lot of new guys on here who don't know shit, throwing advise around and flaming every source that comes here. Bb69, dr Jim, Stretch, Millard, Mands, CBS etc. these are the guys whose advise is good. A lot of you other guys just sit around and talk shit.

Thankfully i do not post here for the sake of gaining your approval. I don't recall anyone promoting you "member and policy overwatch" coordinator. As far as my comments go i don't recall anyone here having issue with what i have to say. I guess perhaps members should send all comments to Kubrick so that you personally can deem what/who is worthy enough to comment :rolleyes:. Also it is pretty easy to point out who is gtg and who is a scammer after the fact like you are doing.
 
Thankfully i do not post here for the sake of gaining your approval. I don't recall anyone promoting you "member and policy overwatch" coordinator. As far as my comments go i don't recall anyone here having issue with what i have to say. I guess perhaps members should send all comments to Kubrick so that you personally can deem what/who is worthy enough to comment :rolleyes:. Also it is pretty easy to point out who is gtg and who is a scammer after the fact like you are doing.

You're a pretty sensitive guy. I didn't think I'd come across someone so soft on a bodybuilding website! Hahaha.
 
You're a pretty sensitive guy. I didn't think I'd come across someone so soft on a bodybuilding website! Hahaha.

I was confused as to whether you may have a slight case of down syndrome or were just a complete douchebag. I believe you have just cleared this up for me ;)
 
Haha. Ok. I'm entitled to an opinion. What's that have to do with being in favor of censored board? I never said that. I said that people are jumping on the bandwagon, flaming sources, with little knowledge of the game or who is legit and who isn't. Some of these veterans and senior members know when to jump on someone and when to sit back. This format is perfect. Some of the members are another story. There's a lot of new guys on here who don't know shit, throwing advise around and flaming every source that comes here. Bb69, dr Jim, Stretch, Millard, Mands, CBS etc. these are the guys whose advise is good. A lot of you other guys just sit around and talk shit.

tell me Kubrick..Why should we not flame on new sources? Are we lacking in the number of legitimate sources we do have? My personal motto is: Every source is a scammer until proven otherwise. Why should we have to bend over to accomidate new sources that pop up? Just because hes a smooth talker and seems to be legit dosnt mean shit!

Where the fuck do you get off coming in here and telling us how to act? How long have you been a member of this board? Do yourself a favor and fuck off your nobody
 
tell me Kubrick..Why should we not flame on new sources? Are we lacking in the number of legitimate sources we do have? My personal motto is: Every source is a scammer until proven otherwise. Why should we have to bend over to accomidate new sources that pop up? Just because hes a smooth talker and seems to be legit dosnt mean shit!

Where the fuck do you get off coming in here and telling us how to act? How long have you been a member of this board? Do yourself a favor and fuck off your nobody

There's a bunch of faggots on this board. Wow!
 
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