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Is it just my jaded viewpoint, or are we at a low point for good, reliable, domestic (US) labs? A number of busts, the pandemic, and all, conspired against us? Feel free to disagree or share your own viewpoint.

PS - this is not a criticism of any existing lab. I am just not seeing as many labs with good results and good reviews as in the past couple of decades. It appears to be a low point right now.
 
I can’t say it’s better or worse than years past, because I didn’t start AAS until a few years ago, and never really any online domestic sources, but it certainly doesn’t feel great lol
 
Is it just my jaded viewpoint, or are we at a low point for good, reliable, domestic (US) labs? A number of busts, the pandemic, and all, conspired against us? Feel free to disagree or share your own viewpoint.

PS - this is not a criticism of any existing lab. I am just not seeing as many labs with good results and good reviews as in the past couple of decades. It appears to be a low point right now.
This is true, yet other areas are prospering well.
 
we have 2 main brewers here on Meso(imo). There are other ones from SST but I am skeptical of some and then reports of floaters, bad tests on others.

I also don't like the shiny brand vials as I could be buying from reshippers/relabelers for all I know.

seems like most US domestic are
Lots of reports of bad batches
not enough testing
or poor communication
 
It’s the new lack of regard for potency and quality

Just quick buck fucks


This is why I’ve taken things Into my own hands
 
I am getting pretty lucky with a UGL that I cant find anywhere on the internet but through a friend. Performed about four tests on the Primo and NPP with good results.
 

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There are a lot on other forums where you have to PAY to be a source there, But 99% of those sources are over priced with no testing to support their premium prices. There are several sources in SST with little or zero testing trying to sell test e or c for $40 a vial which is absurd.

I agree, On meso there is a huge lack in domestic sources. GL is not bad, his prices are alright I suppose. I’m not waiting a fucking month again for Stanford, I’m not stupid enough to buy from naps, the rest of the sources are all shiny labels and high prices and seem to be hit or miss on if you’ll get scammed or not.


It’s kinda depressing actually
 
Is it just my jaded viewpoint, or are we at a low point for good, reliable, domestic (US) labs? A number of busts, the pandemic, and all, conspired against us? Feel free to disagree or share your own viewpoint.

PS - this is not a criticism of any existing lab. I am just not seeing as many labs with good results and good reviews as in the past couple of decades. It appears to be a low point right now.
I know where you're coming from. I stick with my 2 sources for now, very happy with the product, results, and ordering/shipping.
 
I'm not asking for a source hand out on this, but how does one go about finding a seller for raws? Seems like eventually I'm going to be going that route for consistency's sake, not to mention being able to stock up in case shit ever hits the fan
 
Is it just my jaded viewpoint, or are we at a low point for good, reliable, domestic (US) labs? A number of busts, the pandemic, and all, conspired against us? Feel free to disagree or share your own viewpoint.

PS - this is not a criticism of any existing lab. I am just not seeing as many labs with good results and good reviews as in the past couple of decades. It appears to be a low point right now.
Agree ^
 
Heard Pharmahgh was getting prepared to set up shop here sometime soon. I haven't checked their threads on sst or pm much recently but they seem to have great customer service and reviews in the past. I haven't heard if they stay on top of product testing, I think they had one underdosed product recently. I did reach out a few times with questions, they did respond quickly and helpful. Gonna be interesting if they do come here.

We know we only have 2 official usa domestics currently, but Turkish Pharma has a usa warehouse as well.
 
Heard Pharmahgh was getting prepared to set up shop here sometime soon. I haven't checked their threads on sst or pm much recently but they seem to have great customer service and reviews in the past. I haven't heard if they stay on top of product testing, I think they had one underdosed product recently. I did reach out a few times with questions, they did respond quickly and helpful. Gonna be interesting if they do come here.

We know we only have 2 official usa domestics currently, but Turkish Pharma has a usa warehouse as well.
SST does have domestics but idk... colonial seems like it has alot of errors specifically for floaters... he seems to take care of it. idk. I just got some Test U from them. They have a wide variety of products but I have checked the product 3x since I have had it to make sure I dont have floaters.
 
Been in the game since the Nordic days....(Prob what 20 years agao) I still use a few dom sources from those days. I guess its who you know...
 
Is it just my jaded viewpoint, or are we at a low point for good, reliable, domestic (US) labs? A number of busts, the pandemic, and all, conspired against us? Feel free to disagree or share your own viewpoint.

PS - this is not a criticism of any existing lab. I am just not seeing as many labs with good results and good reviews as in the past couple of decades. It appears to be a low point right now.
It can't be good. And it will probably get worse.

We may be reduced to mexvet soon. Depends on how bad things get with russian dogs and if china gets dragged in.
 
I'm not asking for a source hand out on this, but how does one go about finding a seller for raws? Seems like eventually I'm going to be going that route for consistency's sake, not to mention being able to stock up in case shit ever hits the fan
Well, these guys ship from China to a domestic, that then ships to you.

rawgear.com

These guys are great. I used ROIDTEST to test the first order. I have placed several orders for pretty much everything.....
Yes, I am new here. No, I am not affiliated the company.
 
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