(US) Long term stash planning BIG Thread

[Ateam2023]

Same with the estrogen. I have even lowered my dose from 175mg to 150mg a week, doing m-w-f injections and taking .5mg a week of Anastrozole. Still 47 with a sensitive test?! And before you ask I am around 15% body fat, AKA 4 pack lol.

I start my next cycle Jan 1 so I'm trying to get all numbers in check before I start. I will be using Primo so hopefully that will help lower the estrogen. Oh, and on 175mg a week my Total test was 1658.

im at 11% bf currently and only take 200 mg test c per week, but i recently had hcg in the mix and i think the combo raised my e2 to over 70, i just had it at 17 after i aggressively dosed arimidex for 4weeks trying to lower it from 81(was on 300 mg test week) so im in the process of "dialing in" my e2 using only 200 mg test c week, im in same boat as i want to increase mg per week and also climb outta this calorie deficit i've been in for 16 months , also around January,,,,,

 

[IronJohnDoe]

All of this starting Bulk or Cycle in January..
Gotta confuse the muscles.

Bulk in November. Then cut in January, then Bulk again mid February. Throw them off, keep them always guessing, gotta confuse the muscles.

Lol

 

[bigMoJo]

I just received another package and thought, "I just have way too much scheiße."

Thought I'd post about the massive amounts stockpiled... buying due to: need, crackdowns, shutdowns, promos, interest, and just plain hording. Yeesh, I have too much!

I can't say it hasn't been fun... it's a lot of fun, right?

You see a promo, piece together a plan for the product(s), and "away you go." The order... bitcoin... the waiting. Domestic is really fun... instant gratification. International... it's like placing a bet and sweating it out.

When the order finally gets in, the fun isn't over. Oh no! The "unboxing" video. Those "mo-fos" aren't "F-in" me! Right? I put that "shit" on tripod... with the best angle... HD or higher res. No excuses.

In the end, I have way too much scheiße, at least an hour of unnecessary unboxing videos, and an appetite to try a piece of everything ordered. Like beer or wine tasting. Like a buffet. "Oh, I should try the Anadrol!" "Yeah, better try the TNE with Dianabol... never know."

Anyway, this is where this fun and "adventure" has ended. Well, I guess, just started.

 

[bigpoppachump2]

We’ve been here many times before. When I first came to meso in the early 2010s we literally had one legit domestic source openly sourcing and one private lab that everyone was shilling for and even they dried up pretty fast and that left a huge void. You had 2 options, you could either take your chances with all the pop up fake labs and get your money in early when they were actually shipping good accurately dosed gear before the exit scam or you could go run to an international shipper on another board and wait weeks for gear that would maybe show up. We survived it and will survive again. During these times I was getting getting international deliveries from an Indian semi legit pharmacy. If it dries up and goes back to the old days then I’m staying on my test cyp trt until the last bottle and then its off to an anti aging clinic I guess.

 

[bjjgear]

I just received another package and thought, "I just have way too much scheiße."

Thought I'd post about the massive amounts stockpiled... buying due to: need, crackdowns, shutdowns, promos, interest, and just plain hording. Yeesh, I have too much!

I can't say it hasn't been fun... it's a lot of fun, right?

You see a promo, piece together a plan for the product(s), and "away you go." The order... bitcoin... the waiting. Domestic is really fun... instant gratification. International... it's like placing a bet and sweating it out.

When the order finally gets in, the fun isn't over. Oh no! The "unboxing" video. Those "mo-fos" aren't "F-in" me! Right? I put that "shit" on tripod... with the best angle... HD or higher res. No excuses.

In the end, I have way too much scheiße, at least an hour of unnecessary unboxing videos, and an appetite to try a piece of everything ordered. Like beer or wine tasting. Like a buffet. "Oh, I should try the Anadrol!" "Yeah, better try the TNE with Dianabol... never know."

Anyway, this is where this fun and "adventure" has ended. Well, I guess, just started.

Fewer quotes and fewer times saying the German word for shit. Blocked

 

[dontletheoldmanin]

We’ve been here many times before. When I first came to meso in the early 2010s we literally had one legit domestic source openly sourcing and one private lab that everyone was shilling for and even they dried up pretty fast and that left a huge void. You had 2 options, you could either take your chances with all the pop up fake labs and get your money in early when they were actually shipping good accurately dosed gear before the exit scam or you could go run to an international shipper on another board and wait weeks for gear that would maybe show up. We survived it and will survive again. During these times I was getting getting international deliveries from an Indian semi legit pharmacy. If it dries up and goes back to the old days then I’m staying on my test cyp trt until the last bottle and then its off to an anti aging clinic I guess.

Good post.
I actually used a knowen Chinese supplier and stocked up on allot of kits of what i would use normally and things I might, worse case I don't use.
Had over half of it sent for testing.

 

[bigMoJo]

Fewer quotes and fewer times saying the German word for shit. Blocked

Thank you Professor BJ!

I'll make the corrections and strive to make sure my writing improves to, at least, a level more suited to your standards. Not everyone has the gifted ability to write in the stimulating Color by Numbers literature you are accustomed.

 

[fatsoneedstrt]

The peptide is already vacuum sealed in the vial, right? But, vacuum sealed bag on top of it I guess won't hurt. You wanna vaccum seal raws with oxygen eater... there's threads on how members are doing it.
1. Vacuum first bag with o2 eater.
2. Vacuum bag again with silica gel.
You don't need large amounts of either o2 or silica gel pouches... the smallest sold will work.
3. And this is an additional step I do... place the double bagged stuff into a fireproof pouch.

any pictures or videos on how to vacuum seal raws ? the procedure. yes i been searching but this thread came up

 

[xrayphoton13]

I grabbed about 200g raws of all the compounds I like or plan to use and 3kg of test. Should last me a lifetime plus trt till I'm dead. So have to keep buying HGH and glp-1 when needed though. I don't have an ultra low temp freezer to store those for super long times

 

[fatsoneedstrt]

The peptide is already vacuum sealed in the vial, right? But, vacuum sealed bag on top of it I guess won't hurt. You wanna vaccum seal raws with oxygen eater... there's threads on how members are doing it.
1. Vacuum first bag with o2 eater.
2. Vacuum bag again with silica gel.
You don't need large amounts of either o2 or silica gel pouches... the smallest sold will work.
3. And this is an additional step I do... place the double bagged stuff into a fireproof pouch.

so you are using two myler bags ?
one small myler bag inside a larger myler bag?

 

[bigMoJo]

any pictures or videos on how to vacuum seal raws ? the procedure. yes i been searching but this thread came up

If you're referring to just raw powder blowing everywhere when you vacuum, @Dirthand has done that without issues. The vacuum is not that strong to blow/pull the powder out of place.

What I did... I never removed my raws from the original sealed bag. I just placed as-is and sealed in mylar. The oxygen-eater and vacuum seal is enough to eliminate the "elements." Even if you don't seal really tight, you'll notice the oxygen-eater take up slack from inside a day or two after seal.

so you are using two myler bags ?
one small myler bag inside a larger myler bag?

Yes, I used a second mylar on the exterior with silica absorber for moisture. My thinking was to keep the silica away from the raws bag, as to not draw away any of its own moisture. It could be over-kill, but it's just an extra bag/seal.

If you would like a video, I guess I can make one for you... just let me know. I don't mind taking reels of my fat fingers in action

 

[Ateam2023]

so you are using two myler bags ?
one small myler bag inside a larger myler bag?

I use two bags, with an oxygen absorber in with the raws, then vacuum seal, then put that into another mylar bag with another absorber in that and vacuum seal it up , good to go imo, store in a cool dark closet and gtg,,

 

[Dirthand]

I put o2 aborbers directly into a sandwich baggie, weight out 100 grams and dump it in the baggies with the o2 absorbers, squeeze all the air out and close the sandwich baggie, the I drop some o2 absorbers into a vacuum seal bag put the baggies in it and vaccum seal.. then place that into a mylar bag.. store in a cool dry place. I use gasketed ammunition boxes..

 

[qazwsx]

If you're referring to just raw powder blowing everywhere when you vacuum, @Dirthand has done that without issues. The vacuum is not that strong to blow/pull the powder out of place.

What I did... I never removed my raws from the original sealed bag. I just placed as-is and sealed in mylar. The oxygen-eater and vacuum seal is enough to eliminate the "elements." Even if you don't seal really tight, you'll notice the oxygen-eater take up slack from inside a day or two after seal.

Yes, I used a second mylar on the exterior with silica absorber for moisture. My thinking was to keep the silica away from the raws bag, as to not draw away any of its own moisture. It could be over-kill, but it's just an extra bag/seal.

If you would like a video, I guess I can make one for you... just let me know. I don't mind taking reels of my fat fingers in action

The topic of long-term storage of raw materials is very relevant, given the realities of the present time. A short video would be useful. I think many would be very grateful to you

 

[Dirthand]

The topic of long-term storage of raw materials is very relevant, given the realities of the present time. A short video would be useful. I think many would be very grateful to you

I video would be very unnesary, it not rocket science. ... its actually so easy a caveman can do it. . Honestly thought buddy, if you need a video on how to store raws it really scared me that you would attempt to make gear.

 

[explodingHeart]

Sorry for worsening that bro...

The thing is, it wasn't the whole needle, but literally the *tip*, so buried deep, not something you could pull from the end.

Something about the sharpening weakening the end. Noticed when the patient would move after the syringe was removed, and start screaming as they were lacerated internally by the sharpened metal fragment traveling around.

How long do you think chinese MCT test vials can be stored safely?

Would it be a better idea to try and buy pharma amps of test and store long term?

 

[Ghoul]

How long do you think chinese MCT test vials can be stored safely?

Would it be a better idea to try and buy pharma amps of test and store long term?

If they're real pharma amps they probably have the longest lifespan of any container since they're terminally sterilized (sterilized after sealing) by heat or radiation.

Otherwise use a .22um syringe filter to sterilize and transfer your oil into these (FDA sterilie, endotoxin free, particulate free, pharma quality glass and teflon coated stoppers to prevent leaching of chems into the liquid):

ALK Sterile Filling Vials | Sterile Vials | BioPharm World

Shop for the ALK Sterile Filling Vials and other Sterile Vials at BioPharm World

www.biopharmworld.com

(click "in stock" and choose one of the "1020" vials for 10ml)

And cover the puncture with these:

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver, 20 Seals

Sterile Barrier Vial Seals, Tamper Indicating Seal, 20mm, Silver. Allows you to safely travel with your insulin or other type vials. Stores 2 Glass Serum Vials. Up to 12 hours of cooling time.

www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com

And out of light and high heat you'll protect the oil from degradation for many years. At least five, probobly closer to ten if the anecdotes are accurate,

 

[qazwsx]

I video would be very unnesary, it not rocket science. ... its actually so easy a caveman can do it. . Honestly thought buddy, if you need a video on how to store raws it really scared me that you would attempt to make gear.

Not everyone has as much experience in brewing and storing raw materials as you do). Let the caveman get his share of experience. And please do not be afraid - everything will be fine!

 

[bigMoJo]

Not everyone has as much experience in brewing and storing raw materials as you do). Let the caveman get his share of experience. And please do not be afraid - everything will be fine!

You know you can do a few "practice runs," or "rehearsals," or whatever you want to call it... using: sugar; flour; salt; corn flakes, or; whatever.

It doesn't have to be harder than it is. The FDA isn't going to come and inspect your shit, right?

 

[bigboy420]

Shizo thread lol