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Anyone hoping for an advance warning, a "last call", for cheap raws, this is probably it. As QSC correctly noted the obvious. First the high volume sellers run dry, then everyone else. If it continues oils will be next.

Illegal drug precursors aren't a huge business for China, not even fentanyl. They sell more in disposable straws every day than a year of that stuff. It's a bargaining chip. Clearly they can shut it on and off at will. Right now, there's no reason for them to allow production to resume.

This is outside the impending de minimus crackdown that will make shipping much more difficult.
 
Ghoul said:
Anyone hoping for an advance warning, a "last call", for cheap raws, this is probably it. As QSC correctly noted the obvious. First the high volume sellers run dry, then everyone else. If it continues oils will be next.

Illegal drug precursors aren't a huge business for China, not even fentanyl. They sell more in disposable straws every day than a year of that stuff. It's a bargaining chip. Clearly they can shut it on and off at will. Right now, there's no reason for them to allow production to resume.

This is outside the impending de minimus crackdown that will make shipping much more difficult.
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Let’s check in on this post on the 30, 60, and 90 days from now. I can guarantee that prices have not changed and the sky is not falling like you keep trying to convince everyone. The market will still be here, no vendors will even change their prices. You would think they would have already with the paranoid ramblings you spout. I’m guessing they know more than you do since obviously you are not a vendor. You need to lay off the drugs. Many people have told you this.
 
bigMoJo said:
Sampei, do you know if those are actually sterile? I couldn't find a concrete description of "sterile" on these cassette's. @Dirthand says these same ones are GTG... is that your take as well?
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They say they are sterile, I have used them since I bought them and haven't had any strange reaction, telling you the truth I don't know.

Thing is you can always sterilize them yourself. Just need a pressure cooker I guess.
 
Ghoul said:
Not telling you what to do, but they sell non-sterile syringes and vials too. Would you use those?
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Ghoul, I'm evaluating this pen injection process. You can see I'm asking questions bro. With anything I research, if I can't find what I'm looking for, I'll abort. Or, in this case, I've also researched sterilizing these casette components at home with autoclave or pressure cooker, along with overall costs, etc. If that's the case, I'll post a new thread outlining sterilizing these things.

However, I do appreciate you looking out for me and saying something... it's what a good friend would do. Yes, yes Ghoul, you're my friend... no running away from it! ;)
 
nightprowler7 said:
Let’s check in on this post on the 30, 60, and 90 days from now. I can guarantee that prices have not changed and the sky is not falling like you keep trying to convince everyone. The market will still be here, no vendors will even change their prices. You would think they would have already with the paranoid ramblings you spout. I’m guessing they know more than you do since obviously you are not a vendor. You need to lay off the drugs. Many people have told you this.
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I love that last line. "Many people". That's called "recruiting behavior". It's what teen girls do instead of fighting when they want to bully someone.

You're a poorly educated, low skilled, low wage loser. You clearly don't follow current events, don't really even know what "de minimus" is, and certainly don't have a logical mind.

Despite your accusation, I'm not "fearful". I've been prepared for this possibility for months. I can ride out any disruption until things eventually settle back down and whatever new market dynamic takes the place of the current one gets established. 6 months, 2 years, whatever. It'll definately be more expensive, at the least.

What I hear from you is the tantrum of child who doesn't want something to be. It's your fear being manifested as hate towards me. The classic "shooting the messenger" that morons like you have been known to practice forever.

If you have a counterargument, and logically explain how direct shipments of fentanyl and other contraband via de minimus will be stopped, contents accurately identified for the application of tarrifs, but bags of power and cases of liquid filled vials will continue to pass through I'm all ears.

While you're at it, please fill us in on why and when the Chinese Communist party will give the green light to resuming raws production?

I'm giving my opinion on what's going to happen next, so anyone finding it credible can prepare by stocking up a little. There's no harm whatsoever if none of this comes to pass, unless you think they'll miss out on prices dropping further.

Or, they can listen to you, and buy their supplies just as needed at the last moment, because they'll always be as readily available, at bargain prices, as they are now.
 
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bigMoJo said:
Ghoul, I'm evaluating this pen injection process. You can see I'm asking questions bro. With anything I research, if I can't find what I'm looking for, I'll abort. Or, in this case, I've also researched sterilizing these casette components at home with autoclave or pressure cooker, along with overall costs, etc. If that's the case, I'll post a new thread outlining sterilizing these things.

However, I do appreciate you looking out for me and saying something... it's what a good friend would do. Yes, yes Ghoul, you're my friend... no running away from it! ;)
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Someone should just write to the source asking if they can be EO sterilized. They do it for cheap vials from China by putting them in a little gas chamber, they can certainly do it for those carts.
 
HUGE McBIGLARGE said:
What’s the current opinion on how long oils in a vial can last? I’ve got a 5 year stockpile of oils. Is it worth stockpiling more?
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This is a complete guess, but I don't really see a situation where any interruption in supply would last nearly that long.

But to answer your question, Room temp oils kept in the dark don't seem to go bad or degrade much even after 5 years. A sterile environment, with Benzyl Alcohol as a preservative can keep things from going bad almost indefinitely. The stoppers, especially cheap ones will go bad first and ruin the oil. I would filter sterilize them into another vial after 4 years, worst case scenario. Or if you want to go full apocalypse prepper (which I'm not advocating at all, but some people are into this), transferring into a West Pharma Corning Valor glass vial and sealing with a West Pharma NovaPure PTFE coated stopper could easily be good for 10+ years.
 
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