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US: WARNING - UGL GLP users should act quickly
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Trailmixed
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Yeah, exactly right. It is a good situation to be in for disaster preparedness.
Can the FDA take action against the purchase of these drugs providing they don't market it for human consumption, or is it only against the distributors that violate that? I ask this because they issued a letter mid December and never outright say "you can't sell these products." Of course, this could change very quick, but as of now can they really do much?
I should also add that RFK seems to be somewhat positive towards GLPs, which is, in my opinion, good news for the potential of its scheduling.
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The sellers betray themselves every damn time.. lol. In the past, Pharma lawyers would bring posts proving that the sellers intended product for human use. Everything from Reddit adverts to Discord posts. The FDA then issues a letter asking the seller/manufacturer to respond. They either close up shop and reopen under another name or just quit while they're ahead.
The FDA is too busy to be chasing everyone around, and now with the gutting of fed service, no one is going to go out of their way to do anything.
Yep my wife was told once ur bmi or a1c reaches xxxx u no longer get it
Cash is king but not affordable per month…
My wife was told once her bmi reached a certain threshold below what ever they deemed “obese” that insurance was done…
Mongo966
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Most people will qualify for it again after a few months when they balloon back up into the obesity range.
Yeah but thats the issue and something id hope can be mitigated… but thats what they want… baloon up… then back down… ur better off on a roller coaster diet especially if there are sides such as throwin on even more weight when the food demons come calling… nobody wants even more of a strugge…
Mongo966
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I don't know, man. I'm sure bouncing on and off of glp's would work better for me than trying to go back to yo-yo dieting without using them at all. I doubt I'd be able to get down to a healthy weight at all let alone maintain it for any meaningful amount of time. That's from my own personal experience.
Trenbolonetax
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@readalot psssst. Let’s get these folks those argon backfilled vials with the right excipient formulation…
Ghoul
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I happen to know for a fact that many freeze drying / lyophilization machines have an auxiliary gas port.
You hook up a gas canister, and after the vacuum step removes air (and its oxidizing properties), gas, usually nitrogen or argon, is allowed to fill the negative pressure space, and vials are sealed with a protective blanket of inert gas covering the peptide.
This inexpensive addition wound keep suppliers stock in better condition with less degradation, make any slow loss of vacuum via a minuscule imperfection in a stopper a non issue, since there's no force trying to "suck in" atmospheric. air.
Such a simple and cheap improvement in the process would lead to widespread improvements in the stability of peptides, with improved quality (and safety) for the end user, and better profits for the seller (think longer shelf lives, fewer low purity tests, and the ability to buy in bulk at lower prices).
The first vendor to do this would also distinguish themselves and capture more "quality minded" customers who'd likely pay a premium for this, far beyond the penny or less it would cost per vial.
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intense_bulldoze
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Saw this just yesterday when reviewing Lilly stock news. Very interesting.
Lilly has ads out now targeting compounding companies too.
AFAIK from their current contracts with some of the more popular compounding places, those places will sell Lilly GLPs at a lower price but not near as low as the compounded GLPs are right now.
I felt like it was only a matter of time before the FDA got involved. They are going to get some kickbacks out of all of this IMO. Consumer will pay out the ass.
People gonna be stocking the fuck up.
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Ghoul
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At least there's some amount of pressure on Lily to close the price gap a little. If not for Novo's competing product, compounders, and UGL they'd charge $2500/mo or more. Look at Egrifta (tesamorelin). 15+ year old drug and still $7,500/mo.
Ateam2023
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its so unfortunate that these big pharma charge out the ass for glp1 drugs as well as other popular medicines , knowing full well that they have the population by the gonads and taking advantage of the population by doing so, its no wonder why people are "taking out" ceo of large Health care big wigs , like the Manjioni guy in NY that shot that guy recently,,
clearheaded
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welcome to trumps America! lol I kid but yes zero doubt will be huge crack downs on peptides esp ones that are on patent. we also should expect vague reports of Chinese "untested" GLP that caused harm... as of course they dont want people scared of the new GLP set to hit the market... the bazillions of $$ just ozempic pays for TV adds is INSANITY... its not crazy to see ozempic and rebylsus with a RO(or whatever company) selling ozempic telemedicine prescriptions all in 1 commercial break.. sometimes just ozempic and 2 companies selling telemedicine RX for weightloss but its actually insane the $$$$ involved. so of course they have major lobbyists telling gov if they want those fat super PAC checks they better get on board to crack down..
unfortunately if you live in USA and want GLP there will be hundreds of thousands of folks getting RXs vs UGL and ur prices will go back up...
friend just got back form compounding con, and said its become clear they are turning more into sleazy salesman and not focussed on helping people. ie all the "new" ideas of better product use formulas just happen to make them 5X more money lol with little to no testing.
canada is a bit Dif for compounding but in USA its basically deregulated big pharma, which is sorta a scary thing as little recourse tracking etc... some good things forsure, but ladies trying to get pregnant essentially taking UGL HCG, does give me the ick, as who knows the aggregates they are getting possibly messing with endocrine antibodies! but I think they at least got rid of that.....
unfortunately if you live in USA and want GLP there will be hundreds of thousands of folks getting RXs vs UGL and ur prices will go back up...
friend just got back form compounding con, and said its become clear they are turning more into sleazy salesman and not focussed on helping people. ie all the "new" ideas of better product use formulas just happen to make them 5X more money lol with little to no testing.
canada is a bit Dif for compounding but in USA its basically deregulated big pharma, which is sorta a scary thing as little recourse tracking etc... some good things forsure, but ladies trying to get pregnant essentially taking UGL HCG, does give me the ick, as who knows the aggregates they are getting possibly messing with endocrine antibodies! but I think they at least got rid of that.....
clearheaded
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WILD! how is it still on patent? or no one bothering making a generic as such a small market. or just see compounders as too big an issue to compete?
Ghoul
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I tried to figure that out as well, with no luck.
They have "updated" the formulation a couple of times to allow for smaller volume injections. The latest was delayed, as the FDA expressed concerns about changes leading to greater aggregation, and increased immunogenicity.
Tesa already triggers pretty strong immunogenicity, which you feel as a pretty harsh site reaction (significantly lessened with filtering), but just because X level of immunogenicity has no "clinically significant consequences" for a certain drug, doesn't mean increasing it further won't start to create immunity to its effects.
The other weird thing is that the HIV drugs that caused the "psychologically distressing abdominal weight gain" that Tesa is indicated to treat are pretty much obsolete, so I wonder who's paying for these $100k/yr treatments, Rich people getting "off label" prescriptions for them like they used to with Ozempic? HGH is the sole drug not allowed to be prescribed off label, so this is the only FDA approved GH booster available for normies.
I wish a generic was available. I'd happily get a prescription from a medspa for this in pharma grade at a reasonable price.
They've since gotten approval.
TheScholarOfBrew
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Okay, okay. Now you're making me want to stock up on this too.
Should I just get trez? It seems like it's the best of both, in some regards. Two-year supply at minimum? Fuck it. I mean, maybe that'll work out.
Should I just get trez? It seems like it's the best of both, in some regards. Two-year supply at minimum? Fuck it. I mean, maybe that'll work out.
Trailmixed
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Always a good idea to have somewhat of a stock >1year, 2 is great.
TheScholarOfBrew
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This shit's gonna make me in debt. All because of FOMO. Feels like I'm collecting Pokemon or magic the gathering
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