using dnp,clen,t3,eca

[dbolislife]

how would one go about cycling these 3 drugs on and of for a period of 12 weeks? now i'd like to do this as safely and effectively as possible.. ive used dnp before at 400mg 10 days, i cant say it was amazing like people say maybe i wasnt using enough idk,i only lost 5lbs when all was said and done, but i didnt want to use much more and risk it.. also ive used clen,t3 before, but again im looking for ideas from the more experienced lifters for help on cycling these.. here is what i was thinking-
dnp(start low because its a different guys dnp) 200mg first 4 days then bump it to 400 for 10 more days. so thats dnp weeks 1-2
then id be running the t3 from week 1-8(this may be too long) how should i pyramid this or should i maybe just take 25-50mcg ed since i will be using other things.
ill be using clen 2 wks on at a time and dnp the other 2 weeks when im off the clen. ill use 6 clen ed for 7 days then bump it to 7 ed for the last 7days and ill keep running this kind of cycle could someone please help me with dosages that would be better and more effective(my body reacts better to higher amounts of stuff-as with nething i take) hahanot only aas but like tylenol and all that other crap its wack. but neway give me some ideas thanks guys

 

[liv2lift]

The reason for only a 5lb loss of weight to me seems like it could be diet, there is no miracle to DNP it you still need eat to somewhat correctly for it to work. Other than that I would not know. As for Clen and T3 I have not run these together so I can give no personal experience but I know that from what I hear the most for T3 is 100mcg ED(ppl will differ in opinion about how to measure results, ie: taking your temp, well being, ect..) and Clen is 200-260 at most ED, I may be wrong. I am extremely resistant to drugs as well and was at 220mcg of Clen ED before I started to get a good reaction so...? From my sources you could safely run T3 for 6wks at a moderate dose as long as you are taking certain supps to help keep your thyroid healthy(I can get you a list if needed, let me know). I have ran Clen for 10 total wks on a 2wk on/2wk off regimine and I felt good coming off. Obviously with Clen remember the TAURINE intake @ at least 2grams ED, and POTASSIUM @ 1gram ED to keep your heart healthy. Best of luck LIV.

 

[Pup'nIrn]

how would one go about cycling these 3 drugs on and of for a period of 12 weeks? now i'd like to do this as safely and effectively as possible.. ive used dnp before at 400mg 10 days, i cant say it was amazing like people say maybe i wasnt using enough idk,i only lost 5lbs when all was said and done, but i didnt want to use much more and risk it.. also ive used clen,t3 before, but again im looking for ideas from the more experienced lifters for help on cycling these.. here is what i was thinking-
dnp(start low because its a different guys dnp) 200mg first 4 days then bump it to 400 for 10 more days. so thats dnp weeks 1-2
then id be running the t3 from week 1-8(this may be too long) how should i pyramid this or should i maybe just take 25-50mcg ed since i will be using other things.
ill be using clen 2 wks on at a time and dnp the other 2 weeks when im off the clen. ill use 6 clen ed for 7 days then bump it to 7 ed for the last 7days and ill keep running this kind of cycle could someone please help me with dosages that would be better and more effective(my body reacts better to higher amounts of stuff-as with nething i take) hahanot only aas but like tylenol and all that other crap its wack. but neway give me some ideas thanks guys

One problem I see is no gear. You will lose fat extremely well with t3, clen,dnp, eca, cycle. I know a big portion will be due to the t3 eating up muscle though. At least add in some winny and some test. Your results will much better.

If I had to run another DNP cycle for a bb contest in 14weeks I would use a 12 week cycle as such.

wk1 !!! Dnp 200mg/day, clen as tolerated in divided dosages
(each person is different)
wk2 Dnp 200mg/day, Clen As tolerated, Start t3

T3 -cycle
25mcg/day/3days
50mcg/day/3days
75mcg/day/3 days
100mcg/day/3 days
125mcg/day steady till week10

wk 3-4 Dnp 200mg/day, Eca

wk 4-5 Dnp 200mg/day, Clen (no ramp needed, you know yout toleance level now....go straight to maintnance dosage)

wk 6-7 Dnp 200mg/day, eca

wk 8-10 Dnp 200mg/day, clen

wk 11 No dnp, T3 ramp down starts, just the reverse ramp up 125mcg-25mcg, eca,

wk 12 no dnp, when t3 is at 25mcg per day....start on *guggulsterones and stay on for at least 2 weeks strong with eca.

***Great to get thyroid kicking ass, I actually kept losing fat after my t3 cycle while reating like shit becuase the thryoid is known to rebound up to 150% of its normal rate after a long break. You can get these at any health food store.

!!! I choose a long duration low dosage of dnp. I found the results to acutally be better for fat loss because I was able to function in the gym better. Ask heretic, he admits that even 200mg is very effective and that the build-up in your system will be very strong in a couple weeks but still tolerable. Pup

I again recomend the use of winstrol and test in this cycle. Pup

 

[topolo]

But if you just run DNP with e/c that shouldnt eat much muscle.........right?

One problem I see is no gear. You will lose fat extremely well with t3, clen,dnp, eca, cycle. I know a big portion will be due to the t3 eating up muscle though. At least add in some winny and some test. Your results will much better.

If I had to run another DNP cycle for a bb contest in 14weeks I would use a 12 week cycle as such.

wk1 !!! Dnp 200mg/day, clen as tolerated in divided dosages
(each person is different)
wk2 Dnp 200mg/day, Clen As tolerated, Start t3

T3 -cycle
25mcg/day/3days
50mcg/day/3days
75mcg/day/3 days
100mcg/day/3 days
125mcg/day steady till week10

wk 3-4 Dnp 200mg/day, Eca

wk 4-5 Dnp 200mg/day, Clen (no ramp needed, you know yout toleance level now....go straight to maintnance dosage)

wk 6-7 Dnp 200mg/day, eca

wk 8-10 Dnp 200mg/day, clen

wk 11 No dnp, T3 ramp down starts, just the reverse ramp up 125mcg-25mcg, eca,

wk 12 no dnp, when t3 is at 25mcg per day....start on *guggulsterones and stay on for at least 2 weeks strong with eca.

***Great to get thyroid kicking ass, I actually kept losing fat after my t3 cycle while reating like shit becuase the thryoid is known to rebound up to 150% of its normal rate after a long break. You can get these at any health food store.

!!! I choose a long duration low dosage of dnp. I found the results to acutally be better for fat loss because I was able to function in the gym better. Ask heretic, he admits that even 200mg is very effective and that the build-up in your system will be very strong in a couple weeks but still tolerable. Pup

I again recomend the use of winstrol and test in this cycle. Pup

 

[Pup'nIrn]

But if you just run DNP with e/c that shouldnt eat much muscle.........right?

It is all theory but dnp with eca or clen without the t3 will still be effective and will not promote as much protein breakdown from muscle. Check with Heretic DNP stick on the top of the page and frop him a line. He is a good information source and very good guy.

I have used t3, dnp and rotated the eca and clen. I had excellent results but I will say that I was runnning tren, winstrol, eq and test with it. I personnally don't want to chance the loss of any of my well earned muscle. Pup

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Also, I would use guggulsterones in place of the t3 because after awhile on dnp your thyroid will want to slow down. Pup

 

[dbolislife]

thanks so much for the 12 week cycle man that sounds very interesting i may use winstrol, see i havent been lifting for awhile and im trying to lose a good 25-lbs before i start my cycle which will be 600test,500tren eth, 100mg winny ed with proviron.. would taking the winny at 50mg/ed during the dnp,clen,t3 cycle hurt my gains from it in my cycle-actually maybe ill just go with some dbols haha gotta love the thais and use the winny to cut along with the dnp and such..question where can i find some 50mg winny tabs ive been hearin mixed reviews on IP's lately so im looking to get some relatively cheap as his price and effective how are the BD ones?
thanks again guys
matt

 

[Pup'nIrn]

thanks so much for the 12 week cycle man that sounds very interesting i may use winstrol, see i havent been lifting for awhile and im trying to lose a good 25-lbs before i start my cycle which will be 600test,500tren eth, 100mg winny ed with proviron.. would taking the winny at 50mg/ed during the dnp,clen,t3 cycle hurt my gains from it in my cycle-actually maybe ill just go with some dbols haha gotta love the thais and use the winny to cut along with the dnp and such..question where can i find some 50mg winny tabs ive been hearin mixed reviews on IP's lately so im looking to get some relatively cheap as his price and effective how are the BD ones?
thanks again guys
matt

yes winny can be used.....I woudl not uyse more than 50mg every other day for that time period. If you have libido problems, test will be needed. I suggest you look in the classifieds on this board. There are pleny of liquid winnies out there for a fraction of the cost.... Pup

 

[Pup'nIrn]

yes winny can be used.....I woudl not uyse more than 50mg every other day for that time period. If you have libido problems, test will be needed. I suggest you look in the classifieds on this board. There are pleny of liquid winnies out there for a fraction of the cost.... Pup

Oh and yes you will need a break between this cycle and your other cycle. I suggest you take at least 2 months off and just eat and train while on clomid to regain the natural test production. Pup

 

[Heretic]

Just to clarify here, the point of adding T-3 to your DNP cycle is to return your thyroid to NORMAL levels, it is not to add T-3 to burn additional fat. Because DNP can slow down thryoid levels while you are on it it's not a bad idea to add a little T-3 to bring it back to normal range so that your metabolism is running at an optimal level. You are not trying to use a supraphysiological dose of T-3. Therefore you do not need to supplement with AAS because you are not using enough T-3 to put you into a catabolic state.
If you are using DNP post-cycle you shouldn't use T-3 at all as you'll actually want your thyroid working below normal to help keep your gains, this is another great benefit of DNP. And if you are that worried about losing any muscle at all then just don't run the T-3 unless you are also running gear, it's not like the DNP doesn't work without T-3, it still works great.
Lastly, if you don't believe that the T-3 won't burn muscle I would advise something as simple as a 10-20mg dbol bridge ED to preserve muscle, no need for 500mg a week of test or anything like that. You wouldn't do that on a normal diet, which is way more catabolic than DNP, so no need to do it on DNP either.
Regards,
-H-

 

[Pup'nIrn]

Just to clarify here, the point of adding T-3 to your DNP cycle is to return your thyroid to NORMAL levels, it is not to add T-3 to burn additional fat. Because DNP can slow down thryoid levels while you are on it it's not a bad idea to add a little T-3 to bring it back to normal range so that your metabolism is running at an optimal level. You are not trying to use a supraphysiological dose of T-3. Therefore you do not need to supplement with AAS because you are not using enough T-3 to put you into a catabolic state.
If you are using DNP post-cycle you shouldn't use T-3 at all as you'll actually want your thyroid working below normal to help keep your gains, this is another great benefit of DNP. And if you are that worried about losing any muscle at all then just don't run the T-3 unless you are also running gear, it's not like the DNP doesn't work without T-3, it still works great.
Lastly, if you don't believe that the T-3 won't burn muscle I would advise something as simple as a 10-20mg dbol bridge ED to preserve muscle, no need for 500mg a week of test or anything like that. You wouldn't do that on a normal diet, which is way more catabolic than DNP, so no need to do it on DNP either.
Regards,
-H-

I understand your reasoning for adding the T3 in Heretic but I do believe most of those use it in conjuction with DNP find ourselves over supplementing. I usually don't worry about it since I never do a dnp cycle without gear help. Pup