Venom Lab Boutique - AAS - HGH and Peptides - EU Domestic

[Alexthemutant]

Thanks for answer then
From which country do you ship your packages?
I plan to use a carriage company, so I’d like to know which origin country would result in faster shipping.

brother i want to ask you something,sending you a dm ,if your ok with it : )

 

[Venom Lab]

Okay but either you just pre Workout?

Yeah I use them all as pre workout

 

[Capodecapi]

Yeah I use them all as pre workout

For your bac Water you just youse sterile Water with Ba oder Natrium chloride too?

 

[Venom Lab]

For your bac Water you just youse sterile Water with Ba oder Natrium chloride too?

I use sterile water for injection from the pharmacy and I add pharmaceutical grade filtered BA. Thats it

 

[Venom Lab]

I'm placing all labtest link on the bottom of the pricelist.

It will be structured this way:

Raws: the current labtest for the raws being used for producing the oils will be there, if the raws finish and the stock is replenished then the new labtest will substitute the old one. So anytime you wanna know what's the current purity for X raw you just check there.

Orals: same for most of them they will be all tested, the plan is to get 100% of the orals tested except for niche little things that I have bought, those depends on the interest of ppl about it and if I'll restock them in the future.

HGH: same as raws.

Peptides: as I'm starting to switch all my peptides to only Uther, you will find all the labtest on the batch done by Uther there, if I do another labtest myself it will be added nearby.

As the transition will still take sometime you will not get right now straight away all uther PEPs.
However as from the multiple feedback here on the thread my reta and other PEPs are all coming from two other reputable sources so until I finish the remaining stock it will be a slight mix and match.

I think in 3/4 months max it will be all depleted and only Uther peptides will be left.

The only exception is HCG as uther don't have generic HCG that's why together with the batch of orals I'll be sending the HCG to be tested.

I have started decreasing the prices of peptides, I dont think at the moment you will be able to find a reliable european source with better prices than mine on the whole pep lineup, by a long shot.

Especially on the HGH.
Tomorrow I'll be sending a new batch of 36+ IU vials to test together with another batch of 12+IU vials.



If there is interest in buying whole kits I'll be making a pricelist for whole kits orders of PEPs too.

Pricelist is still to be revamped so chill, at the reopening everything will be listed properly and all the new labtest added etc.

Offering orals and peptides is a lot of work guys, remember that I'm a one man show, so have patience and understand that even so I would love to be able to provide third party labtest for everything I sell, I can't at the moment, I'm doing my best and you know I'm always very transparent with everything going on with my lab.


I believe the trest E and 91% GH thing is a clear indication of it.

I will keep sailing this ship straight that's a promise.

 

[smpledude]

I'm placing all labtest link on the bottom of the pricelist.

It will be structured this way:

Raws: the current labtest for the raws being used for producing the oils will be there, if the raws finish and the stock is replenished then the new labtest will substitute the old one. So anytime you wanna know what's the current purity for X raw you just check there.

Orals: same for most of them they will be all tested, the plan is to get 100% of the orals tested except for niche little things that I have bought, those depends on the interest of ppl about it and if I'll restock them in the future.

HGH: same as raws.

Peptides: as I'm starting to switch all my peptides to only Uther, you will find all the labtest on the batch done by Uther there, if I do another labtest myself it will be added nearby.

As the transition will still take sometime you will not get right now straight away all uther PEPs.
However as from the multiple feedback here on the thread my reta and other PEPs are all coming from two other reputable sources so until I finish the remaining stock it will be a slight mix and match.

I think in 3/4 months max it will be all depleted and only Uther peptides will be left.

The only exception is HCG as uther don't have generic HCG that's why together with the batch of orals I'll be sending the HCG to be tested.

I have started decreasing the prices of peptides, I dont think at the moment you will be able to find a reliable european source with better prices than mine on the whole pep lineup, by a long shot.

Especially on the HGH.
Tomorrow I'll be sending a new batch of 36+ IU vials to test together with another batch of 12+IU vials.



If there is interest in buying whole kits I'll be making a pricelist for whole kits orders of PEPs too.

Pricelist is still to be revamped so chill, at the reopening everything will be listed properly and all the new labtest added etc.

Offering orals and peptides is a lot of work guys, remember that I'm a one man show, so have patience and understand that even so I would love to be able to provide third party labtest for everything I sell, I can't at the moment, I'm doing my best and you know I'm always very transparent with everything going on with my lab.


I believe the trest E and 91% GH thing is a clear indication of it.

I will keep sailing this ship straight that's a promise.

Think would be dope to have Reta 10mg and have it sell it has a kit(10vials) for an appropriate price maybe it would be easier for you ?

 

[IndividualMan]

Think would be dope to have Reta 10mg and have it sell it has a kit(10vials) for an appropriate price maybe it would be easier for you ?

he only carries the 30s iirc, better/eaiser/cheaper for customers and better for storage on his side. there was a "vote" on that a few weeks ago.
MAkes more sense for both parties this way

 

[Venom Lab]

Think would be dope to have Reta 10mg and have it sell it has a kit(10vials) for an appropriate price maybe it would be easier for you ?

I bought just one kit of reta10 (uther) it will on the pricelist but as @IndividualMan explained I can offer a much cheaper price on r30 compared to R10.

 

[Venom Lab]

Trest E is all gone. Will not be restocked for quite sometime until the whole raw situation gets back to normal as the quality of raw around at the moment for the specific substance is infamous.

Unless you guys want me to buy it from Deus medical and offer it.
I believe they are one of the only one that can have good trest E as they source from India the raws.
Of course it would be finished oil.
Can't do better than that, if I get eunough request I'll see to it.

 

[SwitchBlade]

Trest E is all gone. Will not be restocked for quite sometime until the whole raw situation gets back to normal as the quality of raw around at the moment for the specific substance is infamous.

Unless you guys want me to buy it from Deus medical and offer it.
I believe they are one of the only one that can have good trest E as they source from India the raws.
Of course it would be finished oil.
Can't do better than that, if I get eunough request I'll see to it.

You still have Trest A, right? I am more concerned about restocking Primo than Trest E for sure

 

[Venom Lab]

You still have Trest A, right? I am more concerned about restocking Primo than Trest E for sure

Ment A I have enough for a while.

Primo and Masteron are in the limbo of AASRaw timeline, getting pushed further and further away.
I have thousand tied up with them as I pre-ordered both substances.

I'm frustrated as much as you all.

 

[GLC]

Ment A I have enough for a while.

Primo and Masteron are in the limbo of AASRaw timeline, getting pushed further and further away.
I have thousand tied up with them as I pre-ordered both substances.

I'm frustrated as much as you all.

feels bad. We need more primo

 

[SwoleCat15]

Will you add tren hex at the reopening?

 

[Venom Lab]

Will you add tren hex at the reopening?

No, raw are stupid expensive and the price I would have to sell it would be similar to Primo. Who would ever buy tren hex at that price?

Maybe when I'm more established and with less things to deal with I'll buy just a small quantity for shit and giggle. At the moment it would be a waste of my budget.

 

[smpledude]

Unrelated question but I know someone with PCOS does anyone know if Reta would be helpful at all ?

 

[Photon]

Unrelated question but I know someone with PCOS does anyone know if Reta would be helpful at all ?

Ask in the GLP thread lol

 

[Methyl Mike]

So I'm not an expert but from my experience there are two wrong assumptions that you are making.

First one: the belief that carrier oil influence the metabolization of a substance so much to make a big difference. It doesn't. A substance in full castor oil may have a delayed absorption of maybe few hours.
A mix of castor and MCT will have a even less meaningful impact.

The reason for mixing carrier oils is not to extend half-life or delay onset is for the properties of some carrier oils have, like decreasing inflammation, a slightly painkiller effect, antimicrobial etc. Changing the viscosity of the oil as well.

I have found that thinning the oil too much make it yes easier to inject with slinpin but it's very easy for leaking subq and those become nasty very quick.

Second wrong assumption: thinking that the more stable the levels of an hormone the better you will feel. This is a paradox but if you do limit the side with stable levels you at the same time limit all those "positive sides" like raging libido.

If you have cycled for a while you will notice that usually you have an increased libido at the Start of a cycle and then it plateau around mid cycle and continue to slowly decrease or stay stay the same the longer you go.

This is because the body adapts to the level of hormones and it becomes the new baseline for that time.

Prop gives you stronger libido erection etc exactly because you have continuous peak and valleys. If you try to extend the half-life making it more stable you will defeat exactly that precise effect it gives you.

Of course with more pronounced peak and valley there can be more sides but Because chemically speaking sides are not just the "bad" one, sides is to whole plethora of effects a substance gives you some are considers positive and some negative.

These are my 2cents and not the universal truth

You are wrong on both explanations but by wrong I mean real world data versus lab analytical data, experience versus chatgpt...

For one I know a person who has several bodybuilding clients and she prefers to get her gear from someone who makes it with extra thick carrier oil, not sure but guessing full castor. I've offered many times in the past to get her what I consider to be superior product and she has tried and found her clientele all prefer steroids in thick oils. And they've tried both. The reason given is that the thicker oils last longer and release more slowly than thin carrier oils. They pack more punch, it has nothing to do with oil viscosity and ease of injecting.

According to you the difference is a few hours, and perhaps on paper that's true. We bodybuilders arrive at our conclusions based on what we experience as we experiment over time. Guys In lab coats do not understand this.

Your second statement, that stable blood levels of hormone is not ideal, is wild. The body has negative feedback loops you must realize this and the faster you 'rock the boat' so to speak the more severe the bodies attempts to 'right the ship' in response as it attempts to restore equilibrium are.

If in the real world things worked like you assume they do, we would all be pinning our steroids as esterless suspensions, but anyone who has actually done that will tell you straight up 'side effects in a bottle' is an accurate statement.

Esters are added to steroids firstly for convenience (so daily injections aren't needed) but secondarily (and equally importantly) the longer esters lead to more stable blood levels which in turn are more useful for our purposes (muscle building) as well as reduced side effects as the body is able to actually adjust to the new state and doesn't go crazy releasing myostatin or shutting down endogenous testosterone production trying to get things under control. That is precisely what happens when hormone levels dramatically spike.

You are somewhat correct in thinking that hormone spikes can have some usefulness for bodybuilding (and it's true that they do) but for the sake of context here, unless someone specifically is looking for a two week blast and then lengthy PCT (Paul borreson advocated this) then skyrocketing hormone levels is a terrible idea.

Why?

Because in these circumstances the body stops responding to hormones altogether, fast. Two weeks fast.

Think about oral steroids, perfect example: Dianabol Superdrol and Anadrol, what do they have in common? Most people report magic for the first two weeks or so, and then you have to nearly double the dosage to get anything and past 4 weeks or so taking more basically does nothing. The magic is gone.

The only way to get it back is coming off or switching to a different oral.

Why?

Because orals kick and are completely gone In a matter of hours. The body hates that. It's defense mechanisms kick In full force and within about two weeks the steroid (at that dosage) is ineffective.

I don't mean to sound like a dick but when you are coming across like you are an educational resource to others one would hope you would actually be correct. It's questionable that you are even getting into discussions like this, you are not anyone's friend much like our parents were not our friends. They had a job to do, preparing us to survive. Didn't matter if we liked them or not, and the same applies here.

 

[Venom Lab]

You are wrong on both explanations but by wrong I mean real world data versus lab analytical data, experience versus chatgpt...

For one I know a person who has several bodybuilding clients and she prefers to get her gear from someone who makes it with extra thick carrier oil, not sure but guessing full castor. I've offered many times in the past to get her what I consider to be superior product and she has tried and found her clientele all prefer steroids in thick oils. And they've tried both. The reason given is that the thicker oils last longer and release more slowly than thin carrier oils. They pack more punch, it has nothing to do with oil viscosity and ease of injecting.

According to you the difference is a few hours, and perhaps on paper that's true. We bodybuilders arrive at our conclusions based on what we experience as we experiment over time. Guys In lab coats do not understand this.

Your second statement, that stable blood levels of hormone is not ideal, is wild. The body has negative feedback loops you must realize this and the faster you 'rock the boat' so to speak the more severe the bodies attempts to 'right the ship' in response as it attempts to restore equilibrium are.

If in the real world things worked like you assume they do, we would all be pinning our steroids as esterless suspensions, but anyone who has actually done that will tell you straight up 'side effects in a bottle' is an accurate statement.

Esters are added to steroids firstly for convenience (so daily injections aren't needed) but secondarily (and equally importantly) the longer esters lead to more stable blood levels which in turn are more useful for our purposes (muscle building) as well as reduced side effects as the body is able to actually adjust to the new state and doesn't go crazy releasing myostatin or shutting down endogenous testosterone production trying to get things under control. That is precisely what happens when hormone levels dramatically spike.

You are somewhat correct in thinking that hormone spikes can have some usefulness for bodybuilding (and it's true that they do) but for the sake of context here, unless someone specifically is looking for a two week blast and then lengthy PCT (Paul borreson advocated this) then skyrocketing hormone levels is a terrible idea.

Why?

Because in these circumstances the body stops responding to hormones altogether, fast. Two weeks fast.

Think about oral steroids, perfect example: Dianabol Superdrol and Anadrol, what do they have in common? Most people report magic for the first two weeks or so, and then you have to nearly double the dosage to get anything and past 4 weeks or so taking more basically does nothing. The magic is gone.

The only way to get it back is coming off or switching to a different oral.

Why?

Because orals kick and are completely gone In a matter of hours. The body hates that. It's defense mechanisms kick In full force and within about two weeks the steroid (at that dosage) is ineffective.

I don't mean to sound like a dick but when you are coming across like you are an educational resource to others one would hope you would actually be correct. It's questionable that you are even getting into discussions like this, you are not anyone's friend much like our parents were not our friends. They had a job to do, preparing us to survive. Didn't matter if we liked them or not, and the same applies here.

I guess you can't read Mike, if because if you could you would have read properly what I said about stable blood levels and fluctuation of hormones levels SPECIFICALLY TO ONLY ONE THING: LIBIDO AND SEXUAL PERFORMANCE.

That was what the client asked me in relations to test prop feeling regarding sexual feelings and that's what I explained to him.

Funny you say labcoat and bullshit like that. Because the boost in libido coming from test P is completely anedoctal and it's not any labacoat study.

No one here as argued that for a side effect free (or reduced side effect) stable levels are not better, they are.

Again instead of wasting 30 minutes writing a wall of text that makes no sense you could have spent 5 seconds reading properly what I wrote.

Btw let's go back to carrier oil and castor thickness bla bla bla.

You write:

"thicker oil gives a slower release and last longer.

They pack more punch."

So I guess you need to make peace with your mind because: EITHER it gives a slower release or it packs more punch.

The two things are basically one the opposite of the others. A slower release will always gives a lower peak and so less of a punch. I mean it's basic pharmacokinetic and it's basic anedoctal feeling.

Ask anyone if they feel more one shot of test D 500mg or one shot of 200mg of test P.

Yeah the answer is pretty straight forward.

The latter will always puck more punch Because the release is quicker.

It's the same for carrier oil on a much smaller level, what gets released slower will be milder but with less side effects, what release quicker will be stronger with possible more side effect.

So no, you are wrong or contradicting yourself on so many levels it's kinda funny to read.

Orals stop working or you get no feelz after two weeks? In what world? Fantasy land?

Btw I haven't write anywhere I'm an expert on anything, I just wrote my own opinion. Your attack is laughable, dont you have more important things to do, like checking on your Axle order when it will arrive?

Cheers

 

[smpledude]

You are wrong on both explanations but by wrong I mean real world data versus lab analytical data, experience versus chatgpt...

For one I know a person who has several bodybuilding clients and she prefers to get her gear from someone who makes it with extra thick carrier oil, not sure but guessing full castor. I've offered many times in the past to get her what I consider to be superior product and she has tried and found her clientele all prefer steroids in thick oils. And they've tried both. The reason given is that the thicker oils last longer and release more slowly than thin carrier oils. They pack more punch, it has nothing to do with oil viscosity and ease of injecting.

According to you the difference is a few hours, and perhaps on paper that's true. We bodybuilders arrive at our conclusions based on what we experience as we experiment over time. Guys In lab coats do not understand this.

Your second statement, that stable blood levels of hormone is not ideal, is wild. The body has negative feedback loops you must realize this and the faster you 'rock the boat' so to speak the more severe the bodies attempts to 'right the ship' in response as it attempts to restore equilibrium are.

If in the real world things worked like you assume they do, we would all be pinning our steroids as esterless suspensions, but anyone who has actually done that will tell you straight up 'side effects in a bottle' is an accurate statement.

Esters are added to steroids firstly for convenience (so daily injections aren't needed) but secondarily (and equally importantly) the longer esters lead to more stable blood levels which in turn are more useful for our purposes (muscle building) as well as reduced side effects as the body is able to actually adjust to the new state and doesn't go crazy releasing myostatin or shutting down endogenous testosterone production trying to get things under control. That is precisely what happens when hormone levels dramatically spike.

You are somewhat correct in thinking that hormone spikes can have some usefulness for bodybuilding (and it's true that they do) but for the sake of context here, unless someone specifically is looking for a two week blast and then lengthy PCT (Paul borreson advocated this) then skyrocketing hormone levels is a terrible idea.

Why?

Because in these circumstances the body stops responding to hormones altogether, fast. Two weeks fast.

Think about oral steroids, perfect example: Dianabol Superdrol and Anadrol, what do they have in common? Most people report magic for the first two weeks or so, and then you have to nearly double the dosage to get anything and past 4 weeks or so taking more basically does nothing. The magic is gone.

The only way to get it back is coming off or switching to a different oral.

Why?

Because orals kick and are completely gone In a matter of hours. The body hates that. It's defense mechanisms kick In full force and within about two weeks the steroid (at that dosage) is ineffective.

I don't mean to sound like a dick but when you are coming across like you are an educational resource to others one would hope you would actually be correct. It's questionable that you are even getting into discussions like this, you are not anyone's friend much like our parents were not our friends. They had a job to do, preparing us to survive. Didn't matter if we liked them or not, and the same applies here.

“Guys In lab coats do not understand this.”
If you actually read the whole thread you should know venom itself injects his own oils etc