Volume Subq Test Injection?

[maybechris]

Hello everyone!

Due to a adress related issue i currently cant get new needles and i only have short insulin needles at home.

Since i am using Test e (250mg/ml) i was wondering how much oil i could inject max eod without getting very strong clotting in the tissue?

Currently i am doing 0.2ml eod and even that is giving me very slight hardening on the tissue.

I appreciate every opinion and or insight. Thank you in Advance.

 

[IndividualMan]

pin the muscle?
if you got a lot of BA% (anything above 1.5%) or react to test E with knotting, you will always knot. if you want higher volume, pin the muscle. .4 ml, .6ml, anything goes.
if you get knots on .2ml, .3ml will be worse. .4ml will be even worse.

Warm the oil before injecting, use Oil which absorbs quicker (miglyol 812, 840, Ethyl oleate. the last two bring some other issues, so be mindful). but the real solution is to stop being a pussy and pin IM.

 

[OilCarrier]

if your insulin needles at 1/2" can't reach any of your muscle tissue I would say don't inject more than 0.5ml per spot. (I use 1/2" all the time though for IM).

You have a lot of spots on your body where you can inject and the knotting will always appear in some form when injecting oil into fat.

Some people like to run cycles sub-q, so a relative low volume should be no problem either, besides the knots. You could also try a massage gun on a light setting or rolling a tennis ball after the injections.

 

[Damaged1]

Hello everyone!

Due to a adress related issue i currently cant get new needles and i only have short insulin needles at home.

Since i am using Test e (250mg/ml) i was wondering how much oil i could inject max eod without getting very strong clotting in the tissue?

Currently i am doing 0.2ml eod and even that is giving me very slight hardening on the tissue.

I appreciate every opinion and or insight. Thank you in Advance.

I would think a 1/2'' insulin pin should get into the muscle on your delt.

 

[hexagonal]

I can do up to 1mL subq without any real issue, but I know I'm an outlier here - most people don't like to go over .5ml from what I've seen.

 

[Damaged1]

I can do up to 1mL subq without any real issue, but I know I'm an outlier here - most people don't like to go over .5ml from what I've seen.

Man, i tried 30 units of tren ace subQ about8 weeks ago and still have a lump in my abdomen. Not getting any smaller either. Never again.

 

[OilCarrier]

Man, i tried 30 units of tren ace subQ about8 weeks ago and still have a lump in my abdomen. Not getting any smaller either. Never again.

yeah. of all the spots, that is probably the worst for oil to fat.

 

[Elektrobot]

Hello everyone!

Due to a adress related issue i currently cant get new needles and i only have short insulin needles at home.

Since i am using Test e (250mg/ml) i was wondering how much oil i could inject max eod without getting very strong clotting in the tissue?

Currently i am doing 0.2ml eod and even that is giving me very slight hardening on the tissue.

I appreciate every opinion and or insight. Thank you in Advance.

If you can't reach muscle using an insulin needle you are too fat

You are also 18

Throw the drugs away, go lose weight and learn how to train and manage your diet.

 

[maybechris]

if your insulin needles at 1/2" can't reach any of your muscle tissue I would say don't inject more than 0.5ml per spot. (I use 1/2" all the time though for IM).

You have a lot of spots on your body where you can inject and the knotting will always appear in some form when injecting oil into fat.

Some people like to run cycles sub-q, so a relative low volume should be no problem either, besides the knots. You could also try a massage gun on a light setting or rolling a tennis ball after the injections.

I would think a 1/2'' insulin pin should get into the muscle on your delt.

The needles are 8mm, i believe that should be 5/16''.. doubt i can get deep enough into the muscle.

pin the muscle?
if you got a lot of BA% (anything above 1.5%) or react to test E with knotting, you will always knot. if you want higher volume, pin the muscle. .4 ml, .6ml, anything goes.
if you get knots on .2ml, .3ml will be worse. .4ml will be even worse.

Warm the oil before injecting, use Oil which absorbs quicker (miglyol 812, 840, Ethyl oleate. the last two bring some other issues, so be mindful). but the real solution is to stop being a pussy and pin IM.

Mine is from a very recent SSA Batch, going to look more into that, thank you very much!

I can do up to 1mL subq without any real issue, but I know I'm an outlier here - most people don't like to go over .5ml from what I've seen.

Gonna give 0.4 ml a shot very soon..

If you can't reach muscle using an insulin needle you are too fat

You are also 18

Throw the drugs away, go lose weight and learn how to train and manage your diet.

Man it's 8mm, I'm only on 175mg test a week because my natural level was just barely in the lower end reference range.. have been tracking calories for 3 years straight and working out properly since i started..

 

[OilCarrier]

open up about your gear use to a gym bro that is willing to receive a pack of 1ml luer syringes and 30G microfine 3's for you?

 

[Elektrobot]

The needles are 8mm, i believe that should be 5/16''.. doubt i can get deep enough into the muscle.

I do it eeeevvvveeerrrryyyyyyy day with that size needle into my glute. Lose weight.

working out properly since i started..

You don't need drugs to continue doing that. You can go do that right now. Now drugs required.

You just want to take drugs. And it's not going to be to your benefit at 18

Go learn how to build muscle at 18 without drugs. Come back here when you are 30.

 

[maybechris]

I do it eeeevvvveeerrrryyyyyyy day with that size needle into my glute. Lose weight.


You don't need drugs to continue doing that. You can go do that right now. Now drugs required.

You just want to take drugs. And it's not going to be to your benefit at 18

Go learn how to build muscle at 18 without drugs. Come back here when you are 30.

I genuinely understand ur "concern" but im not gonna get off anytime soon, i feel significantly better.. what is your bodyfat? Maybe the 8mm are enough, I'm 14-16%.

 

[Elektrobot]

I genuinely understand ur "concern" but im not gonna get off anytime soon, i feel significantly better.. what is your bodyfat? Maybe the 8mm are enough, I'm 14-16%.

Taking drugs to feel better is drug user mentality. You are 18 and abusing testosterone. You aren't the smartest one in the room right now.

Throw the drugs out kid. Learn how to eat, train and sleep.

 

[s2kallday]

I genuinely understand ur "concern" but im not gonna get off anytime soon, i feel significantly better.. what is your bodyfat? Maybe the 8mm are enough, I'm 14-16%.

At 14-16% you should be able to pin IM with a 8mm or 5/16" in Delts quads or lats with minimal issues in my experience. I did it daily at the end of my bulk.

 

[Zebedee]

if you got a lot of BA% (anything above 1.5%) or react to test E with knotting, you will always knot.

That’s not my experience at all mate. I can inject 5% BA oil both IM & SQ without any issues.

In case you’re wondering what or why I’m using 5% BA - I use a 50/50 mix of pharma test e amps & pharma sust amps mixed in a sterile vial

 

[Eddie.]

I've done cruises and cycles entirely subc, it's the best thing ever. It doesn't get easier.. But using 8mm needles for me is a no no, these are great for peptides but not oils. I guess that's why many guys have knots, this is going very shallow, just under the skin. You want to pin it to the adipose tissue, not hypodermal. I'm only using half inch or 12,7mm needles for subc oils. Volume wise i've gone up to 0,6ml a day with zero issues.

Man, i tried 30 units of tren ace subQ about8 weeks ago and still have a lump in my abdomen. Not getting any smaller either. Never again.

Damn, you're so unlucky! I did my entire cutting cycle that way, 30 units of tren A every day subc and didn't have a single knot. Belly is the worst spot for oils though, i'm doing only hips-glutes.

 

[dinfar1337]

Damn, you're so unlucky! I did my entire cutting cycle that way, 30 units of tren A every day subc and didn't have a single knot. Belly is the worst spot for oils though, i'm doing only hips-glutes.

bro you're one lucky bastard.

tren is such a thick oil its a complete no go subq.

 

[Eddie.]

bro you're one lucky bastard.

tren is such a thick oil its a complete no go subq.

Hah is it for real? Didn't noticed it at all TBH and it wasn't even MCT but sesame oil.

I've done weirder things. I was pinning pharma test E in castor oil subc, 0.3ml with backloaded 29G slin pins and no heating lol. It was taking a while to dump that syrup in but never had an issue.

Don't know why but perhaps has to do with me being former fat ass and having a lot of skin and adipose tissue to hold the depot? If someone is lean all his life without a trace of fat, maybe will have a difficult time to go well with subc..just a thought.

 

[dinfar1337]

Don't know why but perhaps has to do with me being former fat ass and having a lot of skin and adipose tissue to hold the depot? If someone is lean all his life without a trace of fat, maybe will have a difficult time to go well with subc..just a thought.

i was also a former fatty. sorry but it has no relevance tren leaves a big ass lump for like 2 weeks in most people.

you just have extremely lucky genetics to not get fucked over by it. or the other possibility is bunk stuff but i wont assume that.

 

[Eddie.]

i was also a former fatty. sorry but it has no relevance tren leaves a big ass lump for like 2 weeks in most people.

you just have extremely lucky genetics to not get fucked over by it. or the other possibility is bunk stuff but i wont assume that.

If it was another compound i wouldn't be that sure but tren it's the only ped i've "felt" so far, leaving aside the physique changes.

Maybe you're right though and it's just a genetic thing. Subc is pretty convenient, i don't have pip nor do i have to pinpoint exactly where to pin, i just grab the syringe and stab it lol. I had only couple times a very small knot with bruising when i hit a blood vessel which went away in 1-2 days.