AllGoodThings
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I did read that about hepcidin. I wonder why main stream recommendations say Vit C enhances iron absorption?
MESO-Rx
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Vorck ferritin protocol on cycle/blast?
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Tbaz192
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Definitely is above my pay grade and knowledge. Lots of random things in that protocol that are interesting like that
Photon
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You can get human grade iron sucrose from India pharma sources here but it's 20mg/ml. Significant lower chance of staining. Just throwing out another option. Ill share my experience when I inject piggy meds this weekend lol.
If you want to avoid India, there's also KR pharma human grade iron sucrose.
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Tbaz192
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Absorption is the opposite of what the protocol is trying to achieve. Read the vorck protocol web page in full.
AllGoodThings
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Will do, I suck at speed reading.
Fuck mine is only 34… and i had no idea haha … time to start some stomach stuff to help digest, absorption and maybe iron
Tbaz192
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I’ve started a lot of stuff for this, even things that may or may not have an effect. Sorta weird but I feel slightly better. Just need to pull labs again in a few weeks.
Glutamine 10g - 3g L citrulline fasted in the am
Couple hours first meal I’d have my iron and vitamin C, wait at least 2 hours before more food.
Mid day, animal pak multivitamin & 1000mg taurine, copper,
Evening time before bed 10g glutamine, mag glycinate.
That's a lot of shit. I'm assuming you tried the basic anemia treatment of 65mg of ferrous sulfate 3x a day for 2-3 months and then retest.
Tbaz192
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Yup I’ve tried multiple variations.
Now I’m trying very low TRT dose, 500ng/dl test levels. See if that helps, since there’s less demand for iron with less RBC creation yada yada. And all the stuff I listed above as well.
Hope it works out. I got lucky and looks like iron pills alone are gonna fix it for me. On just 1 65mg ferrous sulfate pill I took my ferritin from a 45 to 65, iron from 20 to 40 and iron saturation from 7 to 12 in 8 weeks while running a cycle of about a gram. Mch, mchc, platelets, RBC, all moving in the right direction. Only outlier is my rdw is still going up from 20 to 23.
Numbers aren't great but all improving. My tibc is on the higher side of the normal range so my body's got plenty of capacity to store more iron. I'm now taking 2 iron pills a day and retesting in 8 weeks
Which iron pills did u use?
Just the cheap natures made 65mg ferrous sulfate. One mid day and i take with 1000mg vitamin c pill. I just started the second before bed and I didn't bother w vitamin c. You can do 3 and technically you're not supposed to take close to drinking coffee but if I was taking 3 a day I wouldn't worry about 1 dose being close to coffee
Anyone try lactoferrin to assist in raising ferritin ??
Yes, recent evidence suggests
lactoferrin may be more effective than ferrous sulfate for raising ferritin, iron, and hemoglobin levels, particularly because it causes fewer gastrointestinal side effects and has a higher iron affinity, leading to better absorption and utilization. Lactoferrin works by binding iron and promoting its absorption and storage, while ferrous sulfate is a traditional inorganic iron source that can cause significant digestive issues for many people.
Why Lactoferrin May Be Superior
Yes, recent evidence suggests
lactoferrin may be more effective than ferrous sulfate for raising ferritin, iron, and hemoglobin levels, particularly because it causes fewer gastrointestinal side effects and has a higher iron affinity, leading to better absorption and utilization. Lactoferrin works by binding iron and promoting its absorption and storage, while ferrous sulfate is a traditional inorganic iron source that can cause significant digestive issues for many people.
Why Lactoferrin May Be Superior
- Higher Iron Affinity: Lactoferrin binds iron with significantly higher affinity than transferrin, which is the body's main iron transporter, and maintains this binding across a broader pH range.
- Improved Absorption & Homeostasis: It directly increases iron export from the gut and enhances its storage in ferritin, improving overall iron utilization.
- Fewer Side Effects: Many individuals experience fewer or no gastrointestinal side effects (like nausea or constipation) with lactoferrin compared to ferrous sulfate.
- Better Compliance: Due to reduced side effects, patients are more likely to adhere to lactoferrin supplementation.
- Dual Action: Lactoferrin also possesses anti-inflammatory properties, which can be beneficial in managing iron deficiency.
- Inorganic Iron: It provides inorganic iron that can be poorly absorbed and can irritate the gastrointestinal lining.
- Common Side Effects: Nausea, constipation, and stomach upset are common, often leading to poor patient compliance.
BazzBeat
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I used the brand IRON 365 whole foods. Anyone who lives in the US knows this. Absolutely zero side effects. Bisglycinate 18mg
Were you able to fix low iron issues with that dose. That's a pretty low dose even if bisglycinate is absorbed better, not sure if it is, I know it's easier on the stomach. Regular ol ferrous sulfate is actually very well absorbed
BazzBeat
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This is the dosage for one capsule. I used 4. I'll go and get my blood tested in 2 weeks. Maybe sooner. The thing is, I had erythrocytapheresis.
