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Wolfy2525

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So ran a test e and tren e cycle while back. Got good results but got really sick mid cycle. Then did another one but this time with tren a and felt like I got way too many sides. Loss of appetite , anxious like crazy, waking up middle of night paranoid, abdominal issues.

Been years since I touched the stuff and have a different lab now so wondering if I should give it another go or maybe I just don't react well to it?

What's a good cycle I could do similar to tren and test without as many sides?
 
Wolfy2525 said:
What's a good cycle I could do similar to tren and test without as many sides?
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Kind of the holy grail around here. Nothing really compares to tren in my experience, but it comes with its price.

I'd recommend Test/NPP/ mast. That will be my next blast.

I'm not sure how your diet is, but nothing has changed my physique as quickly as really eating well. I feel a lot of the miracle of tren is its nutrient partitioning and just how well it translates food into tissue. It can make a slightly shitty diet seem like a tighter one.
 
I personally don't think tren is worth it unless you compete (and even then it's not a high necessity unless at a higher level). John Meadows talked about this; one contest he didn't like how tren felt and dropped it, his physique wasn't drastically different given mast and some orals were in there.

The neurological effects of tren are equally as bad as it's destruction on BP, lipid profiles for many people. There's that famous beta amyloid study of tren that many people talk about; hard androgens are also known to increase the size of your amygdala long term (making you more emotional and unstable)
 
Yeah personally I don’t think I could ever run tren because I’d be afraid to go crazy. It isn’t the drugs fault it’s just how I am. I don’t sleep much as it is and when that happens I just turn into a fucking animal. I have a feeling it’ll bring out the worst in me.
Some people just shouldn’t touch things.
 
Like everyones said before, depends on the person.

Im a calm guy and never freak out or snap at people, I can sleep well.
So not too worried about the Tren train when i start up on Monday
 
Give it a go, you can always drop it if the sides are too much.
I myself dont get unbearable sides up to 500/week.
Slight insomnia( no screen time for 1 hr before bed) and 20mg melatonin fix that.
Sex drive can be a negative side if your lady isn't up for it often.
 
Take omeprazole for the digestive issues. As for the mental issues? That was my favorite part! Topical magnesium seemed to help me sleep like a baby on tren. Super fun drug if you ask me.
 
What's the lowest dose to start off with but still see effects.

Want to keep a somewhat mild cycle. 300 mg test with like 125 mg tren a week or that too weak
 
Wolfy2525 said:
What's the lowest dose to start off with but still see effects.

Want to keep a somewhat mild cycle. 300 mg test with like 125 mg tren a week or that too weak
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Just stay away from Tren. It’s not for you. If you smash your hand with a hammer, you kinda hesitate to pick up the hammer again. That’s your body telling you to stay away.

For 99% of the guys on here, Tren is a “bucket list” drug. You tried it, it wasn’t right, but you survived. Congratulations. Move onto something else that agrees with you more.

Like @Spokeonawheel said Test/NPP/Mast. That’s a feel good cycle and you’ll see really good results. Tren is a whore.
 
BigBaldBeardGuy said:
Just stay away from Tren. It’s not for you. If you smash your hand with a hammer, you kinda hesitate to pick up the hammer again. That’s your body telling you to stay away.

For 99% of the guys on here, Tren is a “bucket list” drug. You tried it, it wasn’t right, but you survived. Congratulations. Move onto something else that agrees with you more.

Like @Spokeonawheel said Test/NPP/Mast. That’s a feel good cycle and you’ll see really good results. Tren is a whore.
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Lol
That's a good way of putting it.
I dont even feel like I need the Tren to keep moving forward with my goals.
Just on the to do list for sure
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Lol
That's a good way of putting it.
I dont even feel like I need the Tren to keep moving forward with my goals.
Just on the to do list for sure
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I would take it off your bucket list unless you are just dead set on trying it. I ran ace at 150mg week for a total of 8 weeks and that was enough for me. The sides weren’t too bad but I could tell that shit is just toxic. I got strong and saw impressive results but feeling good is more important to me now than results. Also if you do run it be prepared to be a full blown sex addict while on, it’s almost too much of a libido spike.
 
Silentlemon1011 said:
Lol
That's a good way of putting it.
I dont even feel like I need the Tren to keep moving forward with my goals.
Just on the to do list for sure
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I did the same. You gotta.

I hated it. It fucks with my sleep, so I’m tired (literally nodding off sitting up) use too much caffeine, get irritable and just feel like shit.

But then you plan cycles and even though it was a nightmare shitshow, you go: ...and I’ll add a little tren.... why the fuck not?!? And you hate yourself for repeating that. Crazy.

I get more off of NPP than Tren. Tren is stronger for sure but with the fucked up sleep it doesn’t really realize the potential. If you don’t have to work and you have flexibility to be awake at 2:30 am but asleep from 1:00-3:00 the following afternoon then it’s ideal. Most people have to be normal functioning adults though. Without constant random boners.
 
jbil75 said:
I would take it off your bucket list unless you are just dead set on trying it. I ran ace at 150mg week for a total of 8 weeks and that was enough for me. The sides weren’t too bad but I could tell that shit is just toxic. I got strong and saw impressive results but feeling good is more important to me now than results. Also if you do run it be prepared to be a full blown sex addict while on, it’s almost too much of a libido spike.
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Honestly, I almost e joy the chemistry and experimentation as much as the actual gains in my lifts.
So unfortunatly, I'm dead set on trying it lol.

The sex addict part I'm okay, my wife is ALWAYS down.
I'm not worried about cheating on her either, shes GTG and the woman of my dreams

BigBaldBeardGuy said:
I did the same. You gotta.

I hated it. It fucks with my sleep, so I’m tired (literally nodding off sitting up) use too much caffeine, get irritable and just feel like shit.

But then you plan cycles and even though it was a nightmare shitshow, you go: ...and I’ll add a little tren.... why the fuck not?!? And you hate yourself for repeating that. Crazy.

I get more off of NPP than Tren. Tren is stronger for sure but with the fucked up sleep it doesn’t really realize the potential. If you don’t have to work and you have flexibility to be awake at 2:30 am but asleep from 1:00-3:00 the following afternoon then it’s ideal. Most people have to be normal functioning adults though. Without constant random boners.
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LOL
That sounds fucked, but I still want to see the fuss.

Like you said, have to do it.

If it doesnt agree with me, I'll cut the cycle short and back to cruise.
Easy peasy.

I have a lot of flexibility at work as well.
A lot of my shit is management and coordination.
I can do that anytime (Prep the guys materials, loadouts and send emails)

So if I feel like a daytime nap, I easily can.
The perks of not having a boss
 
It fucks with some people's sleep more than others. At 400/week of ace I wont sleep for shit the first week I'm really feeling it. After that I'm gold.

My biggest issue was the acid reflux. Omeprazole solved that one.

The irratibility can be the worst problem. I would say I'm really level headed and calm. However, I think my sense of humor keeps me balanced. Take away that sense of humor and I can turn into a bit of an ass... sometimes, tren kind of effects that. As someone else said....after 2 weeks everything my wife says is stupid. That shit can be a problem.

This last run I did was short. Ran 1 vial of tren E. At about 250 a week. Essentially no problems. No trouble sleeping. No reflux. Most of the shit my girlfriend is saying isn't stupid. Smoothest run I've ever had. Of course, I didnt run much.....and I'm always over it within about 8 weeks. 6 weeks is probably better.
 
Spokeonawheel said:
It fucks with some people's sleep more than others. At 400/week of ace I wont sleep for shit the first week I'm really feeling it. After that I'm gold.

My biggest issue was the acid reflux. Omeprazole solved that one.

The irratibility can be the worst problem. I would say I'm really level headed and calm. However, I think my sense of humor keeps me balanced. Take away that sense of humor and I can turn into a bit of an ass... sometimes, tren kind of effects that. As someone else said....after 2 weeks everything my wife says is stupid. That shit can be a problem.

This last run I did was short. Ran 1 vial of tren E. At about 250 a week. Essentially no problems. No trouble sleeping. No reflux. Most of the shit my girlfriend is saying isn't stupid. Smoothest run I've ever had. Of course, I didnt run much.....and I'm always over it within about 8 weeks. 6 weeks is probably better.
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All I took from that is that you have a wife and a girlfriend. Now I'm intrigued :rolleyes:
 
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