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Newton

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New guy here, kind of stuck / sick of the "orals” I've been taking. I've done two cycles of DMZ 3. Before you guys flame, be kind, my wife would flip out if she found out I was on them. Let’s face it, it’s a lot easier to pop a pill than hide an injection from a wife at least that's my theory. Pretty sure she's looked for pin marks before.
Anyways, I really want to run my first real cycle and I need a little help with a few questions.
Injection sites, how obvious are they? I know the side of the quad is optimal from a medical standpoint does this bruise easy? Any other recommendations I'm assuming a lot of people are going to say rear end.
Since I have a level of experience with orals should I run a stronger first cycle (see below for specs)? Or stick with 500mg test e 2 pins a week? I don't mind stacking but I'm trying to keep marks to a minimum to avoid wrath. I'm not asking for the "winning formula" either just feeling for ideas. I've done research but it never feels like enough. My goal is to put on as much mass as possible if that helps.
Been working out for about 2 and a half years, typically 5 days a week.
6 foot, 200lbs, low body fat, diet is MOSTLY in check, going for more power than aesthetics
PCT is in check just in case you guys ask. Thanks for the read.
 
First of all, if your wifes not on board then its a bad idea. You think she would be upset at orals but you want to do injections? Talk to her and see what she says. Tell her you already did orals and youre thinking about doing more. Theres lots of reading material you can google to separate fact from fiction. But your gains wont be worth it if you lose your wife.

Second. If you do run a cycle just do test at 500 a week. Its your 1st real cycle. You can always add more later cycles if you want.

Third. The same needles you use are the same ones docs use. Itll leave the same marks (which should be none unless someone is studying you).

Fourth. Humor me, what is "pct in check"?

Fifth. Welcome to meso.
 
jaymaximus said:
First of all, if your wifes not on board then its a bad idea. You think she would be upset at orals but you want to do injections? Talk to her and see what she says. Tell her you already did orals and youre thinking about doing more. Theres lots of reading material you can google to separate fact from fiction. But your gains wont be worth it if you lose your wife.

Second. If you do run a cycle just do test at 500 a week. Its your 1st real cycle. You can always add more later cycles if you want.

Third. The same needles you use are the same ones docs use. Itll leave the same marks (which should be none unless someone is studying you).

Fourth. Humor me, what is "pct in check"?

Fifth. Welcome to meso.
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"PCT in check" :) that one always get me but I stopped reading after wife.
 
It's pretty hard to hide a real cycle from a wife. No worry on pin marks, but everything else is pretty noticeable. Why can't you talk to her?

Or tell her it's TRT. Ease her on into it with the libido boost and mellowness. But that shit's playing with fire. Especially if you're so worried about it. Sounds like you know you have quite the reaction coming. . .
 
jaymaximus said:
Lmao. Yeah. We both thought the same thing with that. Cant see why someone would think that hiding it is a good idea. Ive seen it a whole lot on here and different boards, never ends well.
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Hiding anything from the wife very unwise, hiding AAS will end badly. Different guy same same ending
 
lol you guys are nuts, we have an akward relationship about that kind of stuff otherwise I'd agree with you all of you. I could probably play the BS game of some oral test with an eblock and she wouldn't know any better if I was asked. the needle is just a much much bigger deal to that person.
Jay, clomiphen and tamoxifen. Meaning I had it already. Awesome info, and I love the moral standpoint I'm seeing here.
 
Newton said:
lol you guys are nuts, we have an akward relationship about that kind of stuff otherwise I'd agree with you all of you. I could probably play the BS game of some oral test with an eblock and she wouldn't know any better if I was asked. the needle is just a much much bigger deal to that person.
Jay, clomiphen and tamoxifen. Meaning I had it already. Awesome info, and I love the moral standpoint I'm seeing here.
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Nuts, not really man. When you are single and not in committed relationship things are really different. You are accountable for yourself only. Wife, fiance, and or steady gf (wife material) you are in it for 2. Good luck
 
Newton said:
lol you guys are nuts, we have an akward relationship about that kind of stuff otherwise I'd agree with you all of you. I could probably play the BS game of some oral test with an eblock and she wouldn't know any better if I was asked. the needle is just a much much bigger deal to that person.
Jay, clomiphen and tamoxifen. Meaning I had it already. Awesome info, and I love the moral standpoint I'm seeing here.
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I dont think its the "moral" thing. But you say whats stopping you is your wife.
If you thought she was worth marrying and spending the rest of your life with then you should be able to tell her about AAS.
You just gotta be real with her. Like I said, tell her about the orals and let her know you made gainz (i hope) and your still fine. Let her know youre thinking about trying juice and have a real talk.
Itll be awkward but its much easier than hiding it. And much better than lying. If she catches you lying its all bad!
Just my 4 cents. But do what you want.
Between me, @korat, and @D-Ballin we have some experience.
 
jaymaximus said:
I dont think its the "moral" thing. But you say whats stopping you is your wife.
If you thought she was worth marrying and spending the rest of your life with then you should be able to tell her about AAS.
You just gotta be real with her. Like I said, tell her about the orals and let her know you made gainz (i hope) and your still fine. Let her know youre thinking about trying juice and have a real talk.
Itll be awkward but its much easier than hiding it. And much better than lying. If she catches you lying its all bad!
Just my 4 cents. But do what you want.
Between me, @korat, and @D-Ballin we have some experience.
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Yes I got some gains it was a little dissapointing in the long run, right at the end of the cycle, like the last week of it is when I really felt it and noticed.
 
I'm on longterm and will never tell my girl, too much stigma to deal with and it will always end up being used against you somewhere along the line. i always stick with glute shots, i inject twice a week and never go off, occasionally you will have a bad shot and you just have to be careful not to show your ass cheek to her in the light when it happens.. but really it happens rarely. I'd be way more worried about how your body will react and possible libido/erection function changes because it will be way harder to explain to your wife why you are limp when she wants sex.
 
foreveryoung said:
it will always end up being used against you somewhere along the line.
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Everything you say gets filed away in a woman's mind and you never know when it is going to pop up again. Just like on the cop shows 'anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law' the only difference is the 'can' is left out. It WILL be used against you.
 
foreveryoung said:
I'd be way more worried about how your body will react and possible libido/erection function changes because it will be way harder to explain to your wife why you are limp when she wants sex.
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Yup. Or alternatively, why you're going from normal people sex to wanting that pussy three times a day and 8 on Sunday. . .

Not to mention gaining 20lbs in 8 weeks.

If you think that she was checking you for pin holes, then you already slipped too much to hide it bro. Unless she's fucking stupid.

Everything you've ever done she'll hold against you at some point. But when you lie to her face and she catches you, it'll sure as Hell be held against you in the courtroom, should it come to that.
 
I would explain to her why you want to do it and the benefits it has for both of you. Tell her how you've prepared for all the potential risks and even though it's scary she should trust you enough to know what your doing. Also tell her you can stop at anytime. Told my gf a year ago when we were just hooking up that I do gear and if she isn't cool with it shits not gonna work out. Coulda probably been a lot smoother with it haha
 
I'd also thrown in, if you are breaking in "new" or "fresh" or "1st time" injection sites, especially if using UGL gear (which often is "concentrated" at higher amounts per ML.), there is a decent chance you will see some firm pinkish injection site "lumps" that appear about 24 hours after injection and last a day or two.

If so, especially if dorsal or ventral gludial shots, would be almost impossible to hide. I tend to agree with the others, if the wife isn't on board, might be pretty tough to do.
 
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