Western-BioTech - Pharma quality GH

[mands]

I was referring to JB and best... Not to mention those who are owed GH, such as yourself although none of those have been scammed as of yet

JB did not order through Karl.

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

And when did I scammed best ? he got and may get all he paid for incl' compensation, say he would write to me and I avoid his issue it may be called a scam, I offered multiple solutions, all are generous, I'm responsible on the debt to him, when I scammed him ?

 

[Marcus]

JB did not order through Karl.

mands

That's not what he is saying, I'm inclined to agree with him on this, because I don't see any reason he has to lie. Maybe @johnnyBALLZ can fill you in though

 

[Western-Biotech]

So Markus - JB ordered with me ?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

JB did not order through Karl.

mands

So Markus - JB ordered with me ?

I ordered from SF, Karl's Israeli business partner. Money was sent to Karl's location in Israel.. I paid for domestic but my order took 7 weeks in 3 separate packs.. The pack with nolva and aromasin came through customs from Israel !! "Roy" told me to contact Karl about my issues and I did, Karl basically told me to go fuck myself..

They were Sciroxx tabs that supposedly were sent directly from the "factory" in Israel..

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

I ordered from SF, Karl's Israeli business partner. Money was sent to Karl's location in Israel.. I paid for domestic but my order took 7 weeks in 3 separate packs.. The pack nolva and aromasin came through customs from Israel !! "Roy" told me to contact Karl about my issues and I did, Karl basically told me to go fuck myself..

They were Sciroxx tabs that supposedly were sent directly from the "factory" in Israel..

Whether or not I emailed Karl for the order means nothing, he was involved and the shit came from him so drop the bullshit argument that I didn't "order" from you bitch..

 

[Western-Biotech]

You ordered from S-F. You apparently got the order, after 7 weeks, which is poor business indeed, but u got it. I'm not the supplier, so how u like me to control the timing of the offering you sent funds for if u did ?

I would never dare to tell anyone to go fuck himself or even imply to, and I'm not familiar with most of the claims here.. I challenge anyone to write any mail or complaint to sciroxx.com and see it's always replied within 12 hours with great respect. Any complaint is taken care seriously

I challenge again JB to show such mail, you simply can't cause it doesn't exist. there are members here who got products from me for free after they reported on an issue with Sciroxx, one of them posted weeks ago lab test of the Sciroxx he got. I want to see any serious complaint

Now anyhow who scammed him ?

Is any of this justift snitching but best ? this is what u tell me, cause this is the main issue here for anyone with any respect to this community

 

[mands]

That's not what he is saying, I'm inclined to agree with him on this, because I don't see any reason he has to lie. Maybe @johnnyBALLZ can fill you in though

I know the story as JB and I have conversed many many many times.

mands

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

You ordered from S-F. You apparently got the order, after 7 weeks, which is poor business indeed, but u got it. I'm not the supplier, so how u like me to control the timing of the offering you sent funds for if u did ?

I would never dare to tell anyone to go fuck himself or even amply, and I'm not familiar with most of the claims here.. I challenge anyone to write any mail or complaint to sciroxx.com and see it's always replied within 12 hours with great respect. Any complaint is taken care seriously

I challenge again JB to show such mail, you simply can't cause it doesn't exist. there are members here who got products from me for free after they reported on an issue with Sciroxx, one of them posted weeks ago lab test of the Sciroxx he got. I want to see any serious complaint

Now anyhow who scammed him ?

Is any of this justift snitching but best ? this is what u tell me, cause this is the main issue here for anyone with any respect to this community

Stop using the emails as a straw man. I told you dozens of times this was a year and a half ago and I don't have them, you know this but you keep bringing it up..

I don't so much care about the timing of the order it's the BUNK tabs that came out of your fake "factory" that caused me many problems, I even found an empty sachet..

My experience with you has been told over and over again on this board and that will continue.. You messed with the wrong fucking one, Karl..

 

[Dr JIM]

No Karl, I did not threaten to grass you. I am happy to paste in our PM's if you like.

I never asked for those useless loose tabs, with no packaging that are no good to anyone. I will send them back. You only asked for an address and sent them so you could set me up. Funny how after receiving the tabs, the address was visited by LE and the lady of the house was asked if she knew any bodybuilders. In your tiny mind, you believed that grassing on me would get me off your back and you would get away with my 6k.

This visit from LE was suspicious to say the least as that address had never been used to receive any other products and was a virgin address. You were the only person I gave that address to. Naturally my suspicions turned to you so I googled Sciroxx, Axio, etc and guess what? There are a plethora of news reports and forum posts of scores of your resellers getting busted. You are named in the news reports as the person shipping gear to the distributors.

On top of that, among the myriad of excuses you have given me as to why you could not ship out the gear that I ordered, one was that two of your distributors, recently got busted!! You are either jinxed or something is very wrong. Members can come to their own conclusions.

Now it has been over three months since you took my 6K. I no longer want to do business with you and I am entitled to a full refund.

Now as I have told you before:

1) I DO NOT WANT YOUR GEAR.
2) I WILL NEVER GIVE YOU ANOTHER ADDRESS.
3) THE ONLY THING I AM WILLING TO ACCEPT IS A FULL REFUND.

I have explained to you how we can do this very safely, regardless of whether you are broke as you have claimed...you have no excuse.

Now Karl I thought you were an "honest businessman"!

How many sides did that fella with an UNPROVEN level of "30""
have to tolerate?

I would like to see this emails @Best Steroids. And your "line" is out of the UK correct?

mands

Yea I agree but crap of this nature is just to difficult to make up, IME. Especially when we consider the existing fiasco on this thread alone.

Hey K in case you haven't noticed sending the select few specific emails to protect YOURSELF even sounds like your being a scammer.

The customer has every right to a full REFUND not more BS, Halo, the next GH batch or your used car.

Either give him what he ordered NOW or refund his money, why is that so damn hard to understand?

Shit like this is why your rep SUCKS, and it is only going to get worse IMO.

 

[Marcus]

I know the story as JB and I have conversed many many many times.

mands

So then you understand why someone like me or others might view Karl as shady considering his connection to this situation with JB, now with best, the issues in this thread, and the amount of old information he holds on to. Not to mention the multi-million dollar facility he claims to have. My point is that there is mounting evidence... But I sincerely hope EVERYONE gets repaid what they are owed and compensated properly

 

[Western-Biotech]

I offered the guy an immediate solutions in mail Doc as well. I offered him to wait for the new batch as well and include a compensation which we actually agreed about, it's all in my mails I do apologize for delaying him, and posted it openly when he made his claims.


Anything but this is a sheer lie. I'm ashamed to delay customer, but I'm waiting to my new batch, if a customer is delayed he's offered a compensation, and constant update by mail, if for instance he prefer a replacement.

97% of my orders are delivered without a delay, check feedback along the way

 

[Dr JIM]

So Markus - JB ordered with me ?

Stop using this lame damn "he didn't order with me excuse", it's sickening!

If these are your products then your responsible at least in part.

You can't have it both ways Karl. If you guarantee products then you guarantee them ALL not the select few, you've forwarded to YOUR resalers.

It's just more deception an BS on your behalf!

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

Oh, and Karl, should you find the email and shipping addy I used way back when and decide to snitch like you did to BS, I'll be getting a phone call and I assure you that you'll have much bigger problems than me just being a thorn in your side over the internet..

 

[Western-Biotech]

Markus - not that u care but I respect what u write. I apologize I can't make all the customers happy, I do work under circumstances, and may do the best to fix any issue.

If I made a claim regarding me to produce a GH it has been proven, or will be proven, or the shame is on me, what I don't get is if you're so caring for the truth why the hell u don't reply to my PMs with various offers to check and test my claims on the GH and quality assurance measures ? I've offered some constructive steps and full cooperation, but u ignore it, are u afraid I'll prove my claims ? maybe u don't really care and just enjoy trolling with unproven claims on this section ?

 

[mands]

Now Karl I thought you were an "honest businessman"!

How many sides did that fella with an UNPROVEN level of "30""
have to tolerate?


Yea I agree but crap of this nature is just to difficult to make up, IME. Especially when we consider the existing fiasco on this thread alone.

Hey K in case you haven't noticed sending the select few email to protect YOURSELF even sounds like your being a scammer.

The customer has every right to a full REFUND not more BS, Hslo, the next GH batch or your used car.

Either give him what he ordered NOW or refund his money, why is that so damn hard to understand?

Shit like this is why your rep SUCKS, and it is only going to get worse IMO.

Agree it's a total fiasco Jim and I agree reps and remailers suck. I am asking @Best Steroids to send me these emails via PM so I can take a look at them. Best is a customer yes but is also a reseller of many AAS. I would think this could of been solved between them. Can I see why he's pissed? Yes I can.

So then you understand why someone like me or others might view Karl as shady considering his connection to this situation with JB, now with best, the issues in this thread, and the amount of old information he holds on to. Not to mention the multi-million dollar facility he claims to have. My point is that there is mounting evidence... But I sincerely hope EVERYONE gets repaid what they are owed and compensated properly

They will! I don't know anyone that hasn't. Even JB was offered compensation but refused. So yes I know the story. I have dealt with Karl many times and I have never not received what I ordered.

mands

 

[Western-Biotech]

JB - | have never had any shipping addy of u, so stop the BS, and u guys say the word snitch like it's good morning bless, be careful with your shit, u may accuse me in not making GH, making bunk GH, make tests, not making tests, but be careful with shit like snitching, this is out of line completely

 

[Marcus]

Markus - not that u care but I respect what u write. I apologize I can't make all the customers happy, I do work under circumstances, and may do the best to fix any issue.

If I made a claim regarding me to produce a GH it has been proven, or will be proven, or the shame is on me, what I don't get is if you're so caring for the truth why the hell u don't reply to my PMs with various offers to check and test my claims on the GH and quality assurance measures ? I've offered some constructive steps and full cooperation, but u ignore it, are u afraid I'll prove my claims ? maybe u don't really care and just enjoy trolling with unproven claims on this section ?

I answer all PMs, you haven't PMed me once, what are you talking about?

 

[johnnyBALLZ]

JB - | have never had any shipping addy of u, so stop the BS, and u guys say the word snitch like it's good morning bless, be careful with your shit, u may accuse me in not making GH, making bunk GH, make tests, not making tests, but be careful with shit like snitching, this is out of line completely

I'll back down from the snitch part for the moment as it hasn't been confirmed.. It's not something to be thrown around loosely..

Gotta go, see you later..

 

[Western-Biotech]

Shit Markus - I sent it to Bravo, and Dr Jim, I think I PMed u before, I'll PM u soon sorry, I was sure I included u, I'll be back and send u, sorry for my repeated confusion, too much action for on my brain