What are some good cycles if one wants to just stay at 200mg test cyp weekly all of time?

[jtmarlin]

I'm thinking of some good cycles to run while just staying on 200mg test permanently as a TRT dose. Just brainstorming here and curious if anyone has done it. I'm getting older and I have recently ventured up in my test dose and I'm having trouble pissing and it's freaking me out a bit. Basically these would be feel good cycles but actually real cycles while the test stays put at 200 weekly. Primo/mast/winny are out the door for me bc they crush E2 to nothing at any reasonable dose. Some ideas...

200 test + 350-700 NPP per week
200 test + 25mg Dbol or 50mg anadrol
200 test + 25-50mg Anavar per day

The one I'd really be interested in trying is
200 test + 10-15mg tren ace per day

Does anyone who is on TRT just run a relatively small amount of tren for 8 weeks or so a couple of times per year? I've never touched tren. Would it be night and day vs these other drugs?

 

[millcityuhh]

if you're having issues pissing might wanna check with a doctor to see if you're having prostate issues. if so keep in mind some androgens may exacerbate that issue. also do you have any experience with any other compounds? if u dont have any other experience i wouldnt go crazy with those high doses of nandralone or even throw tren in the mix just yet. if i was u i would maybe throw in anavar or maybe dbol. cant really tell until u tell us your experience with PEDs

 

[phenominal34]

I'm thinking of some good cycles to run while just staying on 200mg test permanently as a TRT dose. Just brainstorming here and curious if anyone has done it. I'm getting older and I have recently ventured up in my test dose and I'm having trouble pissing and it's freaking me out a bit. Basically these would be feel good cycles but actually real cycles while the test stays put at 200 weekly. Primo/mast/winny are out the door for me bc they crush E2 to nothing at any reasonable dose. Some ideas...

200 test + 350-700 NPP per week
200 test + 25mg Dbol or 50mg anadrol
200 test + 25-50mg Anavar per day

The one I'd really be interested in trying is
200 test + 10-15mg tren ace per day

Does anyone who is on TRT just run a relatively small amount of tren for 8 weeks or so a couple of times per year? I've never touched tren. Would it be night and day vs these other drugs?

Do you have bloodwork that has shown Mast and Winny crushed your E2 ?

 

[buzzingonaas]

I'm thinking of some good cycles to run while just staying on 200mg test permanently as a TRT dose. Just brainstorming here and curious if anyone has done it. I'm getting older and I have recently ventured up in my test dose and I'm having trouble pissing and it's freaking me out a bit. Basically these would be feel good cycles but actually real cycles while the test stays put at 200 weekly. Primo/mast/winny are out the door for me bc they crush E2 to nothing at any reasonable dose. Some ideas...

200 test + 350-700 NPP per week
200 test + 25mg Dbol or 50mg anadrol
200 test + 25-50mg Anavar per day

The one I'd really be interested in trying is
200 test + 10-15mg tren ace per day

Does anyone who is on TRT just run a relatively small amount of tren for 8 weeks or so a couple of times per year? I've never touched tren. Would it be night and day vs these other drugs?

I would say NPP would probably be the safest, but you may run into deca dick.

Have you gotten your PSA checked or had a prostate exam? At your age that’s something you should definitely be having done and if it all checks out I’d opt for test and primo or test and mast with some dbol for extra e2

 

[Sector]

Test and anavar is relatively safe, and a lot of fun


Not a big fan of 19nors personally (tren/deca/npp) as they can effect dopamine and seratonin levels and can come with a plethora of sides (especially tren), but deca is probably the safer of the two.

I don't think Primo/mast actually crash E2 as much as everyone makes it seem. This seems to be mostly parroted information, but given your prostate issues, masteron is probably a no-go as it can cause sides in some users

What are your goals? bulking? cutting?

 

[Avarice911]

Test/gh/var will work wonders for most guys that aren’t mass monsters

 

[eery]

trestolone, equipoise, dhb, deca, tren, anavar, gh, insulin...

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Do you have bloodwork that has shown Mast and Winny crushed your E2 ?

Nobody does.

Mast 4 life crew

 

[phenominal34]

Nobody does.

Mast 4 life crew

Exactly !!! Primo yes there’s a lot of evidence of lowering E2, first I’ve ever heard of winny unless they think drying affect is E2 related, and Mast, acts similar to a serm, not an AI, plenty of studies on it.

 

[4Drago]

I'm thinking of some good cycles to run while just staying on 200mg test permanently as a TRT dose. Just brainstorming here and curious if anyone has done it. I'm getting older and I have recently ventured up in my test dose and I'm having trouble pissing and it's freaking me out a bit. Basically these would be feel good cycles but actually real cycles while the test stays put at 200 weekly. Primo/mast/winny are out the door for me bc they crush E2 to nothing at any reasonable dose. Some ideas...

200 test + 350-700 NPP per week
200 test + 25mg Dbol or 50mg anadrol
200 test + 25-50mg Anavar per day

The one I'd really be interested in trying is
200 test + 10-15mg tren ace per day

Does anyone who is on TRT just run a relatively small amount of tren for 8 weeks or so a couple of times per year? I've never touched tren. Would it be night and day vs these other drugs?

Maybe give mast p another go with just test p. I know everyone says it's bad on your prostate but since I've been using it in my blasts its done the exact opposite. I pee longer and easier. I used to have to stand there, await a few minutes, then more pee would come out. Now I just pee (more volume and higher flow), stand there for a few seconds and finish then shake it off. Just getting my pee to start took awhile sometime. I would shit out crap like I was pushing it thru a triangle because my prostate was enlarge. Now my shits are nice and round.

Sorry for all the nasty detail but mast is my new go to for every cycle.

Also I found tren a to be tolerable at 20-30mg ed. But I won't use to any longer then 4-6 weeks.

And mast doesn't aromatize or have any effect on e2. But it does reduce e2 sides.

 

[DarkStalker]

Very interesting, is it true mast is worthless when bodyfat is higher then 15%?

 

[4Drago]

Very interesting, is it true mast is worthless when bodyfat is higher then 15%?

You just won't notice the hardness it gives your muscles
But there's more benefits then just muscle hardness.
Just the subcutaneous water removal is nice. I was 253 after blast and stayed 253 thru my cruise for 9 weeks.

 

[buzzingonaas]

You just won't notice the hardness it gives your muscles
But there's more benefits then just muscle hardness.
Just the subcutaneous water removal is nice. I was 253 after blast and stayed 253 thru my cruise for 9 weeks.

This is what I’ve liked about dhts. After dropping test and primo I dropped maybe 5lb and held that weight. No massive 10-15lb disheartening drop from dbol and deca where it feels like you lost all your gains

 

[4Drago]

This is what I’ve liked about dhts. After dropping test and primo I dropped maybe 5lb and held that weight. No massive 10-15lb disheartening drop from dbol and deca where it feels like you lost all your gains

Right. With high test only cycles, once off, I would drop about 7lbs in 2 weeks just from water retention. Then goes the glycogen stores and that would be another 3lbs. It's nice to be on cycle knowing what you're putting on is mainly muscle and not just bloat.
My blood pressure has been amazing due to mast p use!
Also the lack of water retention has shown we where I'm holding my fat much better. I just started my cut and I never knew how much fat I'm holding on my right oblique muscle. It's twice as much as the left side and looks insane. I just noticed this today. I don't have love handles but that right oblique has been hiding a good amount. Looks crazy. Now I'm more motivated to stick with this cut through to the end.

 

[4Drago]

Also all men have some breast tissue. The dreaded bitch tits right around the nipple when e2 gets out of control. Mast p has shown me my breast tissue is held in my arm pits not around my nips. Mast p has brought this down significantly! Barely noticeable!

Still can't believe I've never tried Mast until last year. What a mistake listening to everyone say it's useless unless you're below 15%. It's my new go to for every cycle unless I find something even better. At 700mg it's almost like a baby tren.

 

[DarkStalker]

Great info, thanks!

Got some Mast P.. new to short ester, so you pin ed or eod ?

 

[Avarice911]

Great info, thanks!

Got some Mast P.. new to short ester, so you pin ed or eod ?

Either one works but ED is best

 

[4Drago]

I prefer daily injections when using short esters. Eod is fine I just feel better with daily.

 

[DarkStalker]

Im on trt atm.. do you just up your test (test cyp) or add a short ester like test prop with the mast p ?

 

[Avarice911]

Im on trt atm.. do you just up your test (test cyp) or add a short ester like test prop with the mast p ?

Personally, and I think most that are on TRT keep their baseline long ester test and simply add whatever on top of it if they decide to go short esters with other things- Outside of specific scenarios such as contest prep for example