What are the Front load dose multipliers for the common esters?

[BachmanityInsanity]

Hi what multiplication of the usual weekly dose and for how long is a good rule with common esters?
To rapidly achieve as close a level as the eventual steady state.
Also discuss the pros and cons of this
As a natural ramp up can naturally prevent plateaus in improving on cycle, what about a 50% front load. To get to 50% steady state rapidly and still allow a natural ramp up.

So enanthate/cypionate

Phenylpropionate for NPP
Decanoate

Undecyanate for equipoise.

 

[jdubzzz44]

Steroidplotter.com

 

[Sector]

Should preface it by saying front loading is very much likely to cause you a bunch of sides due to rapid, massive changes on blood levels. Some compounds it's less pronounced (like trying to front load test E), and some compounds you probably don't want to frontload (like tren e), but your chances of sides regardless of compound are very high, nearly guranteed

Now to your question.

Npp doesn't need to be front loaded it's short estered deca.

Front loading EQ and Deca probably isn't wise either, but if you absolutely must, maybe double the weekly dosage the first week, then go back to normal dosing.

Test e is the only one I'd really get behind a potential frontload on, as it's the most side free, but again, just double the dose the first week, and then resume normal dosing. And take your AI, your estrogen is going to explode.



I wouldn't reccomend front loading compounds you've never used. You'll be less able to read the side effects

Also front loading long esters like EQ and Deca, you better make sure you know what you're doing. If you mess up and start getting a to of sides, then buckle up, because they won't be clearing your system nearly as fast as you'd like

I say double the dose the first week, and resume the normal dosing as a "mild" frontload that is likely to give the least amount of sides. I'm sure there's more extreme protocols out there to get blood levels up faster, at the cost of more extreme sides

 

[Astartes]

^ Agree. Just don’t. The value isn’t there.

 

[Juicedhead]

All I noticed when I frontloaded eq was a ton of sides and I defiantly wont do it again. Just wasting gear in my opinion.

 

[ackmack78]

The only thing Ive front loaded is Mast. Took a bit over double the dose the first week & used steroid plotter to figure it out. Didn't notice much of anything but Mast is mild. Main benefit to it I see is getting it's potential benefit as a serm up and running while the other compounds are ramping up. Definitely wouldn't be front loading anything I haven't run before.

 

[BachmanityInsanity]

Should preface it by saying front loading is very much likely to cause you a bunch of sides due to rapid, massive changes on blood levels. Some compounds it's less pronounced (like trying to front load test E), and some compounds you probably don't want to frontload (like tren e), but your chances of sides regardless of compound are very high, nearly guranteed

Now to your question.

Npp doesn't need to be front loaded it's short estered deca.

Front loading EQ and Deca probably isn't wise either, but if you absolutely must, maybe double the weekly dosage the first week, then go back to normal dosing.

Test e is the only one I'd really get behind a potential frontload on, as it's the most side free, but again, just double the dose the first week, and then resume normal dosing. And take your AI, your estrogen is going to explode.



I wouldn't reccomend front loading compounds you've never used. You'll be less able to read the side effects

Also front loading long esters like EQ and Deca, you better make sure you know what you're doing. If you mess up and start getting a to of sides, then buckle up, because they won't be clearing your system nearly as fast as you'd like

I say double the dose the first week, and resume the normal dosing as a "mild" frontload that is likely to give the least amount of sides. I'm sure there's more extreme protocols out there to get blood levels up faster, at the cost of more extreme sides

Thanks Sector that is really helpful. So do you just expect gains to substantially start to happen around week 6 with drugs like test enanthate? Do you do longer cycles of about 20 weeks because of this?

 

[jJjburton]

Thanks Sector that is really helpful. So do you just expect gains to substantially start to happen around week 6 with drugs like test enanthate? Do you do longer cycles of about 20 weeks because of this?

It doesnt take 6 weeks, its shorter, and glycogen starts adding on sooner. I notice a difference 2 weeks. Its not a race, but if you want summer madness gains just start now.

 

[bigboy420]

Why even frontload anything? Why? Wheres the rush? You competing? You have a time limit? Why