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What did you inject today?

Ataemonus said:
One of the reasons I always order off the internet, but local selection is awful, the occasional BD insulin that actually ships from Greece, but those are sort of expensive. So I figured I should order from a manufacturer directly, UniSharp, they are good, not great, only Terumo, Nipro and BD I found to be great, but those I cannot find to buy, I would love some Terumo 27G insulin 1ml syringes, lol.
Plus, in local pharmacies they only have cheap Chinese syringes and needles that I do not like.

Ontopic, my boring 0.17-ish ml of Test E 250mg/ml, so ~42.5mg of Test-E.
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It is so "uneventful" injecting such small volume, i moved mine to every other day now just because A) i don't want to poke test everyday B) there's slightly more volume to my injections ;).
 
ChemBB said:
We can almost be twins
180mg Nandrolone (120 Deca/60 NPP) - 1.2g Nand, ED pins

5iu GH
10iu Slin
1mg Reta
1mg BPC + 1mg TB
3mg MOTS-C

First time using Slin today...
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Haha nice brother! Where’s the test though? xD
Are you doing nandrolone solo?

Insulin is something I debate with myself whether to use it at some point or not. For starters I must get a BG measuring device and take it from there haha.

I’m actually thinking to ditch nandrolone and swap it with tren for final off season weeks. I don’t see any joint relief at all, I’m even worse lol. Also having some palpitations and I think nandrolone either causing it or exacerbates it.
 
Eddie. said:
Where’s the test though? xD
Are you doing nandrolone solo?
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No test! Yep, only gear I'm running is 1.2g Nand. Wanted to see what Nandrolone by itself feels like.

Lots of people don't think it aromatizes. If the "20% aromatization of Test" is true, then I should ~240mg Test worth of E2

I plan to get bloods once levels peak around 5 weeks and then we can prove if it aromatizes or not...

Eddie. said:
I’m actually thinking to ditch nandrolone and swap it with tren for final off season weeks. I don’t see any joint relief at all, I’m even worse lol. Also having some palpitations and I think nandrolone either causing it or exacerbates it.
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If you think it's the Nand, seems reasonable to me mate
 
ChemBB said:
No test! Yep, only gear I'm running is 1.2g Nand. Wanted to see what Nandrolone by itself feels like.

Lots of people don't think it aromatizes. If the "20% aromatization of Test" is true, then I should ~240mg Test worth of E2

I plan to get bloods once levels peak around 5 weeks and then we can prove if it aromatizes or not...
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TBH i think you’ll still need some sort of estrogen. If you find out your e2 is crashed you could try running dbol and some DHEA if you want to skip test like the old school protocols. Also some pro iron would be interesting too.

ChemBB said:
If you think it's the Nand, seems reasonable to me mate
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I’m not sure but it’s either nandrolone or ivabradine. I had raised Iva to 15mg and after 3 weeks I started having afib. It’s on of the side effects listed. I dropped it to 5mg and vanished like 90% but still have some infrequent episodes. Today I quit it entirely.

I just think nandrolone has something to do with my heart function because the previous time I used nandrolone (first time) I noticed I head some irregular heartbeats and I wasn’t taking ivabradine. Perhaps there’s a correlation between nandrolone, ivabradine and irregular heartbeats. In 2 weeks approximately I’ll finish my blend vial and quit nandrolone, tren treated me 10 times better.
 
ChemBB said:
No test! Yep, only gear I'm running is 1.2g Nand. Wanted to see what Nandrolone by itself feels like.

Lots of people don't think it aromatizes. If the "20% aromatization of Test" is true, then I should ~240mg Test worth of E2

I plan to get bloods once levels peak around 5 weeks and then we can prove if it aromatizes or not...


If you think it's the Nand, seems reasonable to me mate
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cool thanks for doing this.
i never see many people run high deca anymore or show bloods with deca
 
Eddie. said:
TBH i think you’ll still need some sort of estrogen. If you find out your e2 is crashed you could try running dbol and some DHEA if you want to skip test like the old school protocols. Also some pro iron would be interesting too.



I’m not sure but it’s either nandrolone or ivabradine. I had raised Iva to 15mg and after 3 weeks I started having afib. It’s on of the side effects listed. I dropped it to 5mg and vanished like 90% but still have some infrequent episodes. Today I quit it entirely.

I just think nandrolone has something to do with my heart function because the previous time I used nandrolone (first time) I noticed I head some irregular heartbeats and I wasn’t taking ivabradine. Perhaps there’s a correlation between nandrolone, ivabradine and irregular heartbeats. In 2 weeks approximately I’ll finish my blend vial and quit nandrolone, tren treated me 10 times better.
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Decca increases the resting heart rate due to increased blood volume. I can't remember correctly but I think higher levels can mess with the Q interval.

Usually the afib stuff is due to a structural issue, like a stretched atrium or scar tissue. This causes the sinus nodes to get out of whack. I take metoprol for this reason. You can use metoprol succinate. Here in Australia the long release version is used for LVH.

So yeah some kind of beta blocker will help.

I'm not a doctor or heart specialist tho lol you probably need specialist advice. Do you experience PVCs?
 
my chest was heavy AF on deca , i did 1.2g and 400mg test.
caused severe sleep apnea my broscience opinion is that it caused like some internal water retention that just weighed on me
 
bananafeet said:
Decca increases the resting heart rate due to increased blood volume. I can't remember correctly but I think higher levels can mess with the Q interval.

Usually the afib stuff is due to a structural issue, like a stretched atrium or scar tissue. This causes the sinus nodes to get out of whack. I take metoprol for this reason. You can use metoprol succinate. Here in Australia the long release version is used for LVH.

So yeah some kind of beta blocker will help.

I'm not a doctor or heart specialist tho lol you probably need specialist advice. Do you experience PVCs?
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I can’t take any beta blocker or bp med, my bp is like 112/55. I tried 5mg nebivolol and diastolic went to 40’s. I could try 2,5mg though but I doubt it would have any positive effect.

My high rhr is from HGH and mostly from Reta. These 2 raised my baseline by almost 30 beats. Nandrolone or even tren don’t seem to alter my rhr.

I’m not sure they are pvc’s, it just beats at a pace and then slows down like it missed 1-2 beats and then continues. The afib I’m experiencing is mostly intense beats towards my throat, like way high up in the chest, almost like fluttering. It’s not constant though, they come and go in a minute and happen 3-5 times a day. I’ve read they can be dangerous if they’re constant for 48h+.

Already talked with a cardiologist, probably in January I’ll go for heart scans, carotid artery triplex etc.
 
Photon said:
Any water retention?
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Muuuuch less than 1.2g of Test, I'll tell you that much lol...

And I feel fine, still have nocturnal erections, normal ejaculation/refractory period, etc

But it's only been ~2 weeks, so blood levels are like 50% max. I was at 125 ng/dL Test before this though and 12 E2, so it's definitely not residual Test.

Will get E2 bloods around Nov 24th, 3 more weeks or so, then post here

Eddie. said:
TBH i think you’ll still need some sort of estrogen. If you find out your e2 is crashed you could try running dbol and some DHEA if you want to skip test like the old school protocols.
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Fair -- if I do need up winding E2, I have a ton of E2 Cyp I can start adding in from my wife's gearbox lol, so at least there's that
 
Eddie. said:
I can’t take any beta blocker or bp med, my bp is like 112/55. I tried 5mg nebivolol and diastolic went to 40’s. I could try 2,5mg though but I doubt it would have any positive effect.

My high rhr is from HGH and mostly from Reta. These 2 raised my baseline by almost 30 beats. Nandrolone or even tren don’t seem to alter my rhr.

I’m not sure they are pvc’s, it just beats at a pace and then slows down like it missed 1-2 beats and then continues. The afib I’m experiencing is mostly intense beats towards my throat, like way high up in the chest, almost like fluttering. It’s not constant though, they come and go in a minute and happen 3-5 times a day. I’ve read they can be dangerous if they’re constant for 48h+.

Already talked with a cardiologist, probably in January I’ll go for heart scans, carotid artery triplex etc.
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I think metoprol is more selective and better at rate control. I'm pretty confident a small dose won't effect blood pressure that much.

But yeah you need to see a cardiologist
 
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