What did you inject today?

I got bloods after ~80% saturation/steady state, and my non-sensitive E2 came back at 31ng/dL on 1.2g Nandrolone

Very interested to see what sensitive comes back as...

I started taking 20-30mg Dbol as of today to see if I notice any difference
If not using tren there shouldn't be too much difference between sensitive and ultrasensitive (tren falsely detects as E2 on the non-sensitive test), unless your hs-CRP is elevated, that interferes with the ECLIA test which will then read too high.

Curious if you have any blood work showing E2 from certain amounts of test you have used without an AI? If so that would give a few data points to interpolate how much nandrolone actually aromatizes.

I'm a high aromatizer, my LC/MS estradiol was 63 on just 140mg testE... for me to use enough test to get decent DHT, I require aromasin; and E2 > 30 I start losing libido and have EQ/ED issues. This is why I have not even tried to use NPP or Deca with test, although I would consider a nandrolone-only cycle in the future. And since I need aromasin anyway, I keep some MENT in my regimen.

I did try low dose NPP at one point to see if it might help my shoulder pain, which is related to labral tears. As expected it did not.
 
Yea it's not commonly talked about as it's an uncommon injection site. I've seen some videos of people doing it and every time it's upper-inner pec or at least 3 inches above nipple. Avoid anywhere near armpit.

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Oh ok I did it a bit differently. According to this image I did the bottom right arrow.

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I got bloods after ~80% saturation/steady state, and my non-sensitive E2 came back at 31ng/dL on 1.2g Nandrolone

Very interested to see what sensitive comes back as...

I started taking 20-30mg Dbol as of today to see if I notice any difference

What's your feel good or target e2 zone?
What do you think dbol gives when converted to e2? (Yes I know it won't appear on the labwork) 1mg:1ng?
 
Oh ok I did it a bit differently. According to this image I did the bottom right arrow.

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That’s ok, actually I find the best spot for me is between this and and the one above, somewhere in the middle.
 
Curious if you have any blood work showing E2 from certain amounts of test you have used without an AI? If so that would give a few data points to interpolate how much nandrolone actually aromatizes.

1,300ng/58 E2, and 1,600ng/91 E2, never use AI
These were on I think 250-300 Test?

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I'm a high aromatizer, my LC/MS estradiol was 63 on just 140mg testE... for me to use enough test to get decent DHT, I require aromasin; and E2 > 30 I start losing libido and have EQ/ED issues. This is why I have not even tried to use NPP or Deca with test, although I would consider a nandrolone-only cycle in the future.
If my E2 is ~30 on +1g of Nand, it seems like Nand-only blasts might be your ticket...

What's your feel good or target e2 zone?
I like higher E2, generally feel best around 60-100
What do you think dbol gives when converted to e2? (Yes I know it won't appear on the labwork) 1mg:1ng?
Oof, that's a tough question. I honestly can't say with any confidence, IIRC when I looked into Me-E2 it had similar RBA/potency as E2, I think they actually RX it as a medication in some places

But the conversion/aromatization rate is what I'm unsure of
 
heh you failed to resist THE temptation.
It's been sat there tempting me since I started this gaining phase ~16 weeks ago. I ran it for a couple week in summer while in a deficit and it just made me feel shit and actually ended up significantly weaker while on it. In a large surplus now so will be interesting to see if that results in a different outcome. I will admit your remark on here last week made me pull the trigger
 
It's been sat there tempting me since I started this gaining phase ~16 weeks ago. I ran it for a couple week in summer while in a deficit and it just made me feel shit and actually ended up significantly weaker while on it. In a large surplus now so will be interesting to see if that results in a different outcome. I will admit your remark on here last week made me pull the trigger

let us know your experience. aaand im happy that ive helped to use it :D

i will
be tempted by summer cause of that look during cut or at the end.

rn anadrol is lookin at me funny... damn pillz!
 
10mg TrenA (daily)
20mg TestP (daily)
20mg MastP (daily)
30mg NPP (daily)

Adding in some TrenA daily cause that vial has been looking at me for months.

Also managed to find some 1inch 30g needles which I'll be using going forward. Pinned delt today and bled a little which is unusual for me.

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sexy ass chilton labs vials

do you have any chilton tren for my nostalagia purposes?
 
Sadly not I just have testp, mastp, npp and some ancillaries :(. Hoping he starts up again at some point but it's not looking promising.
nah i dont think he can get enough raws at a reasonable price so he just decided to close up shop.

even before the raw madness he had issues with the demand.

sucks but it is what it is.
 
Oh ok I did it a bit differently. According to this image I did the bottom right arrow.

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I'm doing the bottom right too.
Are you saying there's 2 more spots to hit lol
 
Oh ok I did it a bit differently. According to this image I did the bottom right arrow.

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I could see the middle arrow spot feesible for myself personally, i think ima give it a try tomorrow, small injection volume is a plus lol
 
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