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What is a healthy estradiol number for men?
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20-40, I think. But this is based on anecdotal evidence and worshiping of high-normal T and low-normal E2.
But you have to know in the 1st place you have estradiol problem. This refers to my question how to figure out whether estradiol is a problem or not. What one should basically do?
Formally, medical ranges are set in the following way: 95% of healthy people fall into the range, means also the rest 5% of healthy people are fine with values outside of range. Pls, correct me if I`m wrong.
So, formally you have healthy estradiol.
But you have to know in the 1st place you have estradiol problem. This refers to my question how to figure out whether estradiol is a problem or not. What one should basically do?
Formally, medical ranges are set in the following way: 95% of healthy people fall into the range, means also the rest 5% of healthy people are fine with values outside of range. Pls, correct me if I`m wrong.
So, formally you have healthy estradiol.
TheOldFart
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Different people have different opinions on this. Some say 10 to 15. Others say 20 to 30 and just about anything else. Some say it doesn't matter I think that the 20 to 40 recommendation is a good one, with 25 to 35 being ideal. That seems to work for me, but I find that having a free T of over 100 is equally important. If my free T is over 100 and my E2 is 25 to 35 then I feel good and ED is gone.
One problem is that there are different tests for E2 and some have greatly varying ranges. For those that go up into the 50s, then the 20 to 40 or the 25 to 35 is a good place to be.
Hello thanks for your response.
Taking the average of 20 to 40, is 30. Taking the average of 25 to 35 is 30.
So it seems like 30pg/ml is a good number to be at, and at 53pg/ml my estradiol is too high.
TheOldFart
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I think that somewhere between 25 and 30 is perfect for a test with the top range value being about 55. I am on TRT and my E2 varies with how high my total T level is. I have been low (<20), high (57 and 83) and in the middle (25 and 34). When I was 25, my free T was low and I didn't feel too good. When I was 34, my free T was 101 and I felt good. When I was at 57 and 83, my free T was much higher, but I didn't feel as good as I did when my free T was 101 and my E2 was 34. This is just my limited experience over a 2 year period.
What units are you quoting for free T? ng/dl? T and Bioavailable T is usually in ng/dl in the U.S. 100ng/dl of free T would be 12%+ of Total T
TheOldFart
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Free T is often, perhaps mostly, in pg/mL from what I have seen. Those are the units that Quest uses for free T and I think that Labcorp does also. Divide by 10 to get ng/dL. When my free T was 101 pg/mL, my total T was only 348 ng/dL, which would be a ratio of 2.9%. My free T to total T ratio seems to hover around 2.5 to 3, so my SHBG must be around 15 to 20 nmol/L.
Edit: Bioavailable is always in ng/dL in the US from what I have seen.
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Hello, did you find libido problems when it was 57? How would you describe the feeling when you had high estradiol?
TheOldFart
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The only way that I have found to describe differences in my libido is this. When my libido is good I have a basic desire to screw my wife and any attractive woman I see while out shopping. When my libido is not good I still have a desire to screw my wife, but not because of some primal sexual desire. It is more like I want to because I know we both enjoy sex. In other words, the desire is from the brain in my top head instead of the brain in my lower head.
When my E2 is high, the desire is from my top brain.The only way that I have found to describe differences in my libido is this. When my libido is good I have a basic desire to screw my wife and any attractive woman I see while out shopping. When my libido is not good I still have a desire to screw my wife, but not because of some primal sexual desire. It is more like I want to because I know we both enjoy sex. In other words, the desire is from the brain in my top head instead of the brain in my lower head.
Yes! I understand what you mean.
Thanks for your reply. I need to bring my estradiol down.
What was your free T and E2 before you started trt?
TheOldFart
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Unfortunately it wasn't tested, so I have no idea. The doctor started TRT solely based on all my symptoms (depression, ED, 30% loss of strength, low libido) and total T level of 304 (250-1100).
Yes that is high. Considering no supplementation, one might assume your TT is low, and further your androgens are low. Proportions are important IMO....
One thing you could try if you test out low TT is first go with an Aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex, and see how you feel. Although my thoughts are the drug itself will have too many shitty sides to reap any improvement.
You should also consider that this natural male progression could be considered the inception of a cancerous profile, with the direction that male hormone research is headed, and the potential negatives associated with high E2. Like I said with the ADex, I dont think thats a great fix, and again sadly and truthfully the only way to get the profiles right is naturally, and reducing body fat and increasing muscle mass... There are diet things too like oatmeal, etc... Too bad I cant practice those preachings.....
While its nice to add TT to the pot, it obviously also increases the negative profile in place many times....
One thing you could try if you test out low TT is first go with an Aromatase inhibitor like Arimidex, and see how you feel. Although my thoughts are the drug itself will have too many shitty sides to reap any improvement.
You should also consider that this natural male progression could be considered the inception of a cancerous profile, with the direction that male hormone research is headed, and the potential negatives associated with high E2. Like I said with the ADex, I dont think thats a great fix, and again sadly and truthfully the only way to get the profiles right is naturally, and reducing body fat and increasing muscle mass... There are diet things too like oatmeal, etc... Too bad I cant practice those preachings.....
While its nice to add TT to the pot, it obviously also increases the negative profile in place many times....
I am not on trt, but my estradiol number is high.
52.86pg/ml ref range (3-53pg/ml) ; it's almost over the range
Could this be why I have no libido? What is a healthy estradiol number for men?
Thanks,
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