What is a normal libido?

[Malevolent666]

What is normal for how often a 40 year old man should want sex with his wife? Obviously I'm enhanced but I want it everyday, multiple times would be perfect.

I'm currently running only 250 Test C a week and 50mg of Provirion every other day. Libido is still high. Not as crazy high as when I was running Deca but still high.

It's creating a problem in my marriage. I'm an attractive guy and in great shape (40 years old) . My wife is 37 but her Libido is no where near mine.

I lose my mind when she's wearing yoga pants lol. It's like I'm obsessed with her. We have been together 12 years. She says my abundant need for sex just makes her want it less.

Do I drop the Provirion altogether? It is a shame because I do enjoy being on Provirion.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

How many times a week is she putting out?

14 times a week is overboard
But 3 times a week isn't enough in my books.

If youre handsome, well groomed, kicking ass, jacked and doing the "manly duties". Its her responsibility to do the " feminine duties".

If my current GF whom I deeply care about didn't put out 4-5 times a week I'd have her shit on the curb so fast it would make her head spin.

Ideally, 7-8 times a week.

A man with options has the RIGHT to exercise them.

 

[Ghoul]

Every day is perfectly reasonable IMO unless she's not feeling well.

If this is a significant change from before, you should gently, lovingly suggest she see her gynecologist about low libido, there's all kinds of stuff that can go wrong with a woman putting her off. Mid 30s is typically a crazy horny time for women.

Otherwise, you may not be as hot as you think, but big pharma has the solution:



Vyleesi, (aka PT-141). The drug for wives with ugly husbands.

 

[Malevolent666]

She puts out on average 3-4 times a week.

My situation is more complicated than yours. I've been married 10 years with two kids who are 9 and 8. It not as easy as kicking out a girlfriend.

 

[Malevolent666]

Every day is perfectly reasonable IMO unless she's not feeling well.

If this is a significant change from before, you should gently, lovingly suggest she see her gynecologist about low libido, there's all kinds of stuff that can go wrong with a woman putting her off. Mid 30s is typically a crazy horny time for women.

Otherwise, you may not be as hot as you think, but big pharma has the solution:

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Vyleesi, (aka PT-141). The drug for wives with ugly husbands.

I'm FAR from ugly my friend. In fact I'm the better looking in the relationship. Not by a long shot but I am. She's overweight. Ever since I've been on Test the extra weight doesn't bother me whatsoever. Before test, yes it bothered me enough where I left her. On test, could care less and can't get enough of her.

 

[Ghoul]

She puts out on average 3-4 times a week.

My situation is more complicated than yours. I've been married 10 years with two kids who are 9 and 8. It not as easy as kicking out a girlfriend.

I'm assuming that's probably average tbh.

I got married in my early 20s, and was very demanding. 2x a day+ was the norm for over a decade, which she accepted, so settling down to once a day (every morning, whether I was conscious or not) by mid to late 30s felt like an age appropriate slowdown. No kids though which I understand changes things significantly.

 

[Ghoul]

I'm FAR from ugly my friend. In fact I'm the better looking in the relationship. Not by a long shot but I am. She's overweight. Ever since I've been on Test the extra weight doesn't bother me whatsoever. Before test, yes it bothered me enough where I left her. On test, could care less and can't get enough of her.

Let me reinforce the "gently ask her to get checked out". Get her to schedule an. appt with her gyno or better yet endocrinologist. Offer to go with her.

Women have all sorts of biological complexities that can screw up their libido.

The weight (assuming it's relatively recent) could very well be a clue it's a hormonal issue, early perimenopause, an ovarian cyst, or any number of things.

As an AAS user you know how much we're slaves to our biochemistry. I don't think most normal people realize that. Something as simple as a hormonal problem that can be easily treated could, if left unaddressed, put a huge, unnecessary strain on your marriage.

In a few years "midlife crisis" shit is going to hit you, and nothing sends a man down a dangerous path as a major mismatch in libido with an overweight wife, thinking "Oh hell no, I'm not done living yet", and starting to hunger for what makes you feel alive.

Next thing you know, especially if you're doing well financially, you'll find yourself living in an apartment with a chick 20 years younger, paying alimony and child support, and wondering what the fuck just happened. I've seen it play out like that over and over.

I recently read a comment from a nurse who said she divorced her husband, described by her as a "good man", without realizing all their issues came down to her undiagnosed hypothyroidism. (she was depressed so no libido, gained weight, cranky).

Try to get this fixed now before it gets worse.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

She puts out on average 3-4 times a week.

My situation is more complicated than yours. I've been married 10 years with two kids who are 9 and 8. It not as easy as kicking out a girlfriend.

If not happy get some elsewhere. Got a buddy that has a side price because his wife won't put out, that's not for me (I'd just leave her) but also totally reasonable as far as I'm concerned.

 

[juicebro]

Does she give you blowies? A good wife would take care of her man no matter what her libido is like. Sounds like yours isn't and she has let herself go too. You're 40 and on gear, go get laid elsewhere. It's fine.

 

[Malevolent666]

Does she give you blowies? A good wife would take care of her man no matter what her libido is like. Sounds like yours isn't and she has let herself go too. You're 40 and on gear, go get laid elsewhere. It's fine.

She gives head on average once a month. If that

 

[PermaBlastingTren]

Does she give you blowies? A good wife would take care of her man no matter what her libido is like. Sounds like yours isn't and she has let herself go too. You're 40 and on gear, go get laid elsewhere. It's fine.

bro don't cheat lol, married and have kids. have a talk with her about it, maybe even suggest her talking to her gyno about libidio issues. if it's a huge dealbreaker to you then express that you aren't exactly content with the lack of sex and it's causing big issues on your side of the marriage

 

[Malevolent666]

Let me reinforce the "gently ask her to get checked out". Get her to schedule an. appt with her gyno or better yet endocrinologist. Offer to go with her.

Women have all sorts of biological complexities that can screw up their libido.

The weight (assuming it's relatively recent) could very well be a clue it's a hormonal issue, early perimenopause, an ovarian cyst, or any number of things.

As an AAS user you know how much we're slaves to our biochemistry. I don't think most normal people realize that. Something as simple as a hormonal problem that can be easily treated could, if left unaddressed, put a huge, unnecessary strain on your marriage.

In a few years "midlife crisis" shit is going to hit you, and nothing sends a man down a dangerous path as a major mismatch in libido with an overweight wife, thinking "Oh hell no, I'm not done living yet", and starting to hunger for what makes you feel alive.

Next thing you know, especially if you're doing well financially, you'll find yourself living in an apartment with a chick 20 years younger, paying alimony and child support, and wondering what the fuck just happened. I've seen it play out like that over and over.

I recently read a comment from a nurse who said she divorced her husband, described by her as a "good man", without realizing all their issues came down to her undiagnosed hypothyroidism. (she was depressed so no libido, gained weight, cranky).

Try to get this fixed now before it gets worse.

My wife is a very, very stubborn woman. She would never jump on trt or take anything exogenous. She is big on being "natural." She talks shit about all my supplements and being on Test. She threw away my bottle of Masteron because she thinks it "changed" me. Changed as far as being more quicker to anger.

 

[Malevolent666]

Let me reinforce the "gently ask her to get checked out". Get her to schedule an. appt with her gyno or better yet endocrinologist. Offer to go with her.

Women have all sorts of biological complexities that can screw up their libido.

The weight (assuming it's relatively recent) could very well be a clue it's a hormonal issue, early perimenopause, an ovarian cyst, or any number of things.

As an AAS user you know how much we're slaves to our biochemistry. I don't think most normal people realize that. Something as simple as a hormonal problem that can be easily treated could, if left unaddressed, put a huge, unnecessary strain on your marriage.

In a few years "midlife crisis" shit is going to hit you, and nothing sends a man down a dangerous path as a major mismatch in libido with an overweight wife, thinking "Oh hell no, I'm not done living yet", and starting to hunger for what makes you feel alive.

Next thing you know, especially if you're doing well financially, you'll find yourself living in an apartment with a chick 20 years younger, paying alimony and child support, and wondering what the fuck just happened. I've seen it play out like that over and over.

I recently read a comment from a nurse who said she divorced her husband, described by her as a "good man", without realizing all their issues came down to her undiagnosed hypothyroidism. (she was depressed so no libido, gained weight, cranky).

Try to get this fixed now before it gets worse.

The crazy thing is even though she's overweight, her labs and BP are pristine. It makes no sense. Also she isn't terrible about her diet either. She definitely needs to intensify her excerise regimen but I'm glad she actually started now.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

bro don't cheat lol, married and have kids. have a talk with her about it, maybe even suggest her talking to her gyno about libidio issues. if it's a huge dealbreaker to you then express that you aren't exactly content with the lack of sex and it's causing big issues on your side of the marriage

If her celebrity crush rolled in on her Friday afternoon, after a long long week with a hall pass in hand for Mrs, Malevolent666 shed be ready to go. That's human nature, to deny such thing would be to deny humanities desire to procreate.

Now, if she can be ready to go, just like that. Then the question needs to be asked, why not for her husband, father of her children, powerhouse and jacked anabolic user? We don't know Malevolent666, but if we assume he's not an abusive asshole and is fact doing all the "things" he's supposed to do - chore play, killing dinosaurs, and fighting off the barbarian hordes. Its of my opinion she should be for filling her role as wife.

When my gf and I got together, I made it abundantly clear that exclusivity was a social contract for monogamy and that if there was no sex at all, or protracted time without adequate sex, excluding sickness and injury that the relationship would be over.

Every time I've heard of guys having to go to their woman and say "we need to have sex more" the sex tap that was a slow drip gets almost shut off completely. So in my situation I also told her I'll be doing attractive things and as long as I'm holding my end up, shell be expected to adhere to the social contract and that that is her responsibility.

I ended a marriage and paid almost a million dollars because I was unhappy in a marriage with a woman that was amazing. She slowly didn't give a fuck about me or what I wanted while expecting the world. Call me ruthless but I'll NEVER put my needs second ever again.

Cheating isn't for me, like you said "married with kids", not for me either. Not because I think its immoral, but because it looks like a logistical nightmare. A lot of women expect the world to be delivered to them on a silver platter, then have the gall the not put out.

 

[Malevolent666]

If her celebrity crush rolled in on her Friday afternoon, after a long long week with a hall pass in hand for Mrs, Malevolent666 shed be ready to go. That's human nature, to deny such thing would be to deny humanities desire to procreate.

Now, if she can be ready to go, just like that. Then the question needs to be asked, why not for her husband, father of her children, powerhouse and jacked anabolic user? We don't know Malevolent666, but if we assume he's not an abusive asshole and is fact doing all the "things" he's supposed to do - chore play, killing dinosaurs, and fighting off the barbarian hordes. Its of my opinion she should be for filling her role as wife.

When my gf and I got together, I made it abundantly clear that exclusivity was a social contract for monogamy and that if there was no sex at all, or protracted time without adequate sex, excluding sickness and injury that the relationship would be over.

Every time I've heard of guys having to go to their woman and say "we need to have sex more" the sex tap that was a slow drip gets almost shut off completely. So in my situation I also told her I'll be doing attractive things and as long as I'm holding my end up, shell be expected to adhere to the social contract and that that is her responsibility.

I ended a marriage and paid almost a million dollars because I was unhappy in a marriage with a woman that was amazing. She slowly didn't give a fuck about me or what I wanted while expecting the world. Call me ruthless but I'll NEVER put my needs second ever again.

Cheating isn't for me, like you said "married with kids", not for me either. Not because I think its immoral, but because it looks like a logistical nightmare. A lot of women expect the world to be delivered to them on a silver platter, then have the gall the not put out.

As much as I agree with a lot of what you said, a part of me feels it's on me. Ever since I started anabolics the pros are the gym gains, libido increase, and attraction to my wife increased. The cons are I'm obsessed with her, I dwell on thoughts about prior sex partners she had over 12 years ago (we've been together 12 years). I dwell on them out of jealousy, even though I've fucked her thousands and thousands of times over the years. Which is much more than anyone else had. There is absolutely zero reason for pre relationship jealousy but my mind is slowly going down these rabbit holes on anabolics.

 

[BigDadd7]

On this board, sex multiple times daily is normal. We're all juiced and we attract women that like that.

Outside of this board, in normal marriage, 3-4 times a week sounds above average. Your solution won't be in demanding blood tests, or negotiating for more sex. Couple counseling, date night, flowers, romantic and thoughtful gifts, compliments, cuddling, etc. You just can't negotiate more sex out of a woman.

 

[Ateam2023]

"IF" you have to negotiate sex with your wife, Well that is just a no brainer,, Sex or GTFO,, if its already happening now , its likely only going to get worse as time progresses, nip it in the bud,,

 

[Benf15harp]

Once per week for 30mins or less and only after training/practicing is completed and has to be the evening prior to off day for optimal athletic performance.

 

[buck]

It seems that most married people have sex 1-2 times a week from my reading. so that would be normal. And the older a couple is and the longer they have been together the rate appears to go down. If i was on gear and my drive went up and wanted sex more i can't say that is the woman's fault. But that is what hands are for.

 

[HeatherSwanson]

As much as I agree with a lot of what you said, a part of me feels it's on me. Ever since I started anabolics the pros are the gym gains, libido increase, and attraction to my wife increased. The cons are I'm obsessed with her, I dwell on thoughts about prior sex partners she had over 12 years ago (we've been together 12 years). I dwell on them out of jealousy, even though I've fucked her thousands and thousands of times over the years. Which is much more than anyone else had. There is absolutely zero reason for pre relationship jealousy but my mind is slowly going down these rabbit holes on anabolics.

Retro active jealousy is something that is signally that your feeling like somethings is missing.

Apex mindset - YouTube
Retroactive jealousy