What to expect?

[Fullchamber]

Hey guys!
I am new to this side of the world. Been natty my entire life and trained like a maniac. Now that I am heading towards my late 30s I have decided to get on a small dose of Test Cyp (125mg/week/split the dose into two). I have been on it for five weeks now but haven’t notice anything crazy in my appearance besides some decent strength gains. I have already been in a really good shape so I am not sure maybe that’s why I am not noticing any serious changes in my body? Also, sometimes my body feels energetic in the gym and sometimes I feel weak. Should I increase the dose by a little or wait a little longer to see any physical changes?

 

[anabolicperro]

physical changes at 125mg ?
just becareful if you go over 150mg you might become nick walker

 

[Fullchamber]

physical changes at 125mg ?
just becareful if you go over 150mg you might become nick walker

Lol. Jokes aside. I heard Coach Gregg and Vigorous Steve and even Derek say even 100mg is quite a bit for building decent amount of muscles.

 

[anabolicperro]

Lol. Jokes aside. I heard Coach Gregg and Vigorous Steve and even Derek say even 100mg is quite a bit for building decent amount of muscles.

there is your answer
keep watching derek

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Lol. Jokes aside. I heard Coach Gregg and Vigorous Steve and even Derek say even 100mg is quite a bit for building decent amount of muscles.

Yeah but what they aren’t saying is that’s the base and they’re using 300mg Tren A and 400mg Mast P too.

Unless you were severely suffering from low testosterone, 125mg may not even replace your natural test levels. At best you’ll feel 25 again.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Yeah but what they aren’t saying is that’s the base and they’re using 300mg Tren A and 400mg Mast P too.

Unless you were severely suffering from low testosterone, 125mg may not even replace your natural test levels. At best you’ll feel 25 again.

Speaking of- what were your test levels prior? You ran bloods like those coaches recommended, right?

 

[Fullchamber]

Yeah but what they aren’t saying is that’s the base and they’re using 300mg Tren A and 400mg Mast P too.

Unless you were severely suffering from low testosterone, 125mg may not even replace your natural test levels. At best you’ll feel 25 again.

So what do you think is five weeks enough of an excuse for me to increase the dose a bit? I was thinking about going up to 175/week from next week.

 

[Fullchamber]

Speaking of- what were your test levels prior? You ran bloods like those coaches recommended, right?

I never did actually. I just wanted to hop on to something cus I have started feeling my age a lot more now. Workouts go solid but recovery is a nightmare.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

I never did actually. I just wanted to hop on to something cus I have started feeling my age a lot more now. Workouts go solid but recovery is a nightmare.

Well that’s a wrap. I’d recommend stopping the test immediately before you educate yourself more.

There’s a good chance your just going to shut down your own production for, at best, a replacement dose. But you wouldn’t know. Because you don’t have a baseline. Even though you take these YouTube coaches shitty advice & ignore the good advice (like get bloodwork)

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

So what do you think is five weeks enough of an excuse for me to increase the dose a bit? I was thinking about going up to 175/week from next week.

See above. I think you should stop completely, let your natural system come back cause you’re not shut down yet. Then educate yourself before sticking needles with drugs in your body.

 

[Fullchamber]

See above. I think you should stop completely, let your natural system come back cause you’re not shut down yet. Then educate yourself before sticking needles with drugs in your body.

I actually got hurt and I just wanted to take something to get better and decided that I wanna stay on it. If I stop now. How long would it take to go back to normal? My appointment with endocrinologist is on May 14 I can ask them if they could recommend the test to find out my level.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

I actually got hurt and I just wanted to take something to get better and decided that I wanna stay on it. If I stop now. How long would it take to go back to normal? My appointment with endocrinologist is on May 14 I can ask them if they could recommend the test to find out my level.

See, you have 0 knowledge on any of this.

I’ll walk you through what you need to do:

1. Get nolvadex
2. Get enclomiphene
3. Stop the test
4. Take the nolva and enclo for ~6 weeks.
5. Go see a doctor, get a baseline

In the meantime you need to educate yourself. If you want to mess around with PEDs, you should go into it armed with full knowledge. You don’t wanna mess yourself up because you easily can with these drugs.

 

[Fullchamber]

See, you have 0 knowledge on any of this.

I’ll walk you through what you need to do:

1. Get nolvadex
2. Get enclomiphene
3. Stop the test
4. Take the nolva and enclo for ~6 weeks.
5. Go see a doctor, get a baseline

In the meantime you need to educate yourself. If you want to mess around with PEDs, you should go into it armed with full knowledge. You don’t wanna mess yourself up because you easily can with these drugs.

Like you said I haven’t been shutdown so why should I need PCT? I barely have been on test for 4.5 weeks. I won’t do my shot today. I am stopping it until i get my bloodwork done.

 

[Pinnacle Elements]

Like you said I haven’t been shutdown so why should I need PCT? I barely have been on test for 4.5 weeks. I won’t do my shot today. I am stopping it until i get my bloodwork done.

lol. educate yourself man. You are messing up your body taking drugs that alter it with 0 knowledge.

Do the PCT for safety & read. Then come back.

The thing is, you don’t know and will never know if you needed PCT, if it worked or not. Because you don’t have a baseline to compare to.

 

[Fullchamber]

Ok. Thanks for your help!

 

[ChevChelios]

Since erryone else gave the responsible answer I will tell u the one that u probably wanna hear, I still think u should do bloodwork but if u rly insist on taking test first understand what u at naturally or even off that dose so u know tf u doin n if you got any high rbc e2 etc… so u know tf to do when u raise it (which u will cos unless u respond really well to it like I do, 120 had me at 1200 or more on trough, but usually anything under 200 is just maintenance n you’d rly want to do at least 400 unless u are gonna stay on in which case do whatever but don’t be twiddling yo thumbs at 125).

 

[Fullchamber]

Well, I am getting a bunch of kidney and liver related tests done this week. Once I see my doctor, I’ll ask for my Test level to get checked as well. My goal is to keep my test level on upper high limit and if the test shows that with whatever Test dose I’ll be taking at the time, I’ll stick to it. I am not planning on turning into a bodybuilder by taking some seriously high dosages. I already carry pretty solid amount of muscles and my goal is to maintain them without suffering too much with my recovery and keep doing those “safe” dosages for as long as my health markers allow me to.

 

[Lionmask]

Why would you inject test without even knowing what were your natty levels before? If you were on your 700-800s natty, 125mg will just put you there or slightly above it. Shutting down your balls for no reason. You fucked up, pct is harder on the body as well, you did a bunch stupid shit from watching a bunch youtube fitness salesman.

 

[Fullchamber]

Why would you inject test without even knowing what were your natty levels before? If you were on your 700-800s natty, 125mg will just put you there or slightly above it. Shutting down your balls for no reason. You fucked up, pct is harder on the body as well, you did a bunch stupid shit from watching a bunch youtube fitness salesman.

I’ll get my levels checked and can increase the dose, brother. It’s not rocket science.

 

[jdubzzz44]

As dumb as Reddit can be sometimes at least they say if you’re going to cycle to go right to 500mg a week to get the most out of shutting yourself down at least make it worth it