What would work best?

[superman15]

Ok I just wanted to know what you guys thought, what would be the best single oral pill to take for size, but with minimal sides and not too expensive. Now what would be the best single injectable to take for size and not too many sides. If i did take them it would be my first cycle. What is your opinion on sustanon 250. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

 

[joe shmoe]

seems to me like you're not doing your own homework and you're looking to us to do it for you .

what you need to do is read the anabolic section. read all the posts. do this for a while until you can come up with some sort of basic cycle, then we'll be there to help you fine tune it. its just too damn easy to come here and ask the question you did. its coming across as you not knowing a damn thing about this game, but you want to play. and you dont even know the basic rules of the game...like PCT(post cycle therapy).

besides all that...what you're asking for is a miracle drug that doesnt really exist...lots of size, no sides, and cheap!

this isnt a flame, just a primer. you'll be shooting hormones into your body. at levels that your body isnt used to. i would think that you might want to know a bit more about this.

have a nice day

 

[killiob]

Ok I just wanted to know what you guys thought, what would be the best single oral pill to take for size, but with minimal sides and not too expensive. Now what would be the best single injectable to take for size and not too many sides. If i did take them it would be my first cycle. What is your opinion on sustanon 250. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.

I would go with Test enth at about 500mg a week and 25 to 50 mg of dbol every day. Sustanon 250 is some good shit but being your first cycle i would go with test enth because it is a single ester and you can see how your body reacts to it. i really can't say much because i used sustanon for my first cycle at 750mg a week, doing injections EOD with 50mg of dbol ED. I would read more about aas and you will figure out what you need for your first cycle, but what i suggested would work great for size. make sure you have some clomid or nolvadex for PCT. Some people include HCG also. Good luck

later bro

 

[superman15]

I have done my homework, i just dont have alot of money to be able to get everything i need, it would be my first cycle, i just want something basic, yes i do know what post cycle therapy is, i have done a lot of research on these anabolics, i do plan on taking either clomid or nolvadex. i have read just about all of the drug profiles from many web sites. I just know that peoples opinions that have actually took these drugs are alot better than just basic info on it. I would really appreciate it if i could get some help. i am a newby, i just need some help on starting up.Thanks

 

[joe shmoe]

ok, since you've done your homework....what have you come up with? what do you have in mind?

have a nice day

 

[killiob]

I have done my homework, i just dont have alot of money to be able to get everything i need, it would be my first cycle, i just want something basic, yes i do know what post cycle therapy is, i have done a lot of research on these anabolics, i do plan on taking either clomid or nolvadex. i have read just about all of the drug profiles from many web sites. I just know that peoples opinions that have actually took these drugs are alot better than just basic info on it. I would really appreciate it if i could get some help. i am a newby, i just need some help on starting up.Thanks

Hey bro, If you don't have a lot of money to spend I would try IP products. They are great for the cost of them. I would get some IP Test Enth and some IP Dbol 50mg tabs. there are some some good IP remailers on this site check them out and find which one is best for you.

 

[superman15]

I have been thinking about dbol, but i want something that will keep some of my gains, i am wanting to stay away from needles for right now, but if i have to then i dont mind pokin myself, haha. I have heard anadrol works good. what did you use for your first cycle.

 

[joe shmoe]

so much for homework!

have a nice day

 

[superman15]

Listen Joe Schmoe, what is this forum for..........people who have questions and want to discuss AS. Right? I am just a newbie so i would appreciate it if i could get some help, thats why im here.. Im not trying to be rude. Thanks to everyone who has helped me.

 

[killiob]

I have been thinking about dbol, but i want something that will keep some of my gains, i am wanting to stay away from needles for right now, but if i have to then i dont mind pokin myself, haha. I have heard anadrol works good. what did you use for your first cycle.

If you are going to do Dbol or anadrol, you have to stack it with some form of Test. Some form of test should always be the base of all your cycles. You will have to use needles. I am sorry to burst your bubble but you never take oral only cycles. I used IP Sustanon 250 at 750mg a week for 10wks, i did injections every other day. I used IP Dbol at 50mg every day for 5 weeks. Then i used clomid for PCT at 300mg for the first day, 100mg ed for 10 days, then 50mg ed for 10days. i would used Test enth instead of sustanon 250 because you can inject it only one time a week, instead of injecting 3x a week with sustanon. HOpe this helps bro. Good luck

 

[diesldud]

Listen Joe Schmoe, what is this forum for..........people who have questions and want to discuss AS. Right? I am just a newbie so i would appreciate it if i could get some help, thats why im here.. Im not trying to be rude. Thanks to everyone who has helped me.

If you read some posts you will see that this guy is a huge help to bros who are looking for help. A DBOL only cycle is a waist, so if cash is a concern dont even bother with it. Someone recomended some products on this thread and they are right, good prices for good products. Also take some time and read the Cycle FAQ by phreezer and Bob Smith. Good luck.

 

[joe shmoe]

first off, if you're trying to scold me by writing "listen joe schmoe" at least get my damn name right! its Shmoe not SChmoe"

but ok, here's the deal youngin'. i am trying to help you. it might not be the way you want it, but i am helping you. i'm not feeding you all the answers. reason for that is because as soon as something goes slightly wrong, you'll be back here with a slew of other questions. what i'm trying to do, you ungrateful little twit, is have you learn...not just listen and follow directions. shit, my grandma who has alzheimers can follow directions!

what i'm trying to do here is get you to do some research. i dont want you to write a freekin paper about it...but just get some basic knowledge on the effects/side effects of different drugs, and not just how to pronounce them. when you learn these things, then you can make a half way educated choice on your cycle. and as i stated before, we'll be here to help you fine tune it.

now you say you did your homework, but then you said that you wanted to do a cycle without using needles. great homework brother!

heres a question for you....whats the major difference between different tests: suspension, prop, enanthate, and cypionate?

remember, i'm TRYING to help here. play along and prove me wrong.

have a nice day

 

[eleven11]

If your worried about sides forget the orals, a-50 is as bad as it gets..... if you want to put on some keepable gains do some test and EQtest 500-600 wk
EQ 400-500 wk always do a little more test than EQ, 600t-500eq
12 week cycle and start you pct about 3 weeks after your last shot.........11

I would think twice about UG. JMO

 

[Dart]

first off, if you're trying to scold me by writing "listen joe schmoe" at least get my damn name right! its Shmoe not SChmoe"

but ok, here's the deal youngin'. i am trying to help you. it might not be the way you want it, but i am helping you. i'm not feeding you all the answers. reason for that is because as soon as something goes slightly wrong, you'll be back here with a slew of other questions. what i'm trying to do, you ungrateful little twit, is have you learn...not just listen and follow directions. shit, my grandma who has alzheimers can follow directions!

what i'm trying to do here is get you to do some research. i dont want you to write a freekin paper about it...but just get some basic knowledge on the effects/side effects of different drugs, and not just how to pronounce them. when you learn these things, then you can make a half way educated choice on your cycle. and as i stated before, we'll be here to help you fine tune it.

now you say you did your homework, but then you said that you wanted to do a cycle without using needles. great homework brother!

heres a question for you....whats the major difference between different tests: suspension, prop, enanthate, and cypionate?

remember, i'm TRYING to help here. play along and prove me wrong.

have a nice day

Damn Joe, come on bro ....give the little bro a break, mean ass bastard lol....
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[Deacon]

just get some test enth or cyp and run it ten weeks at 500 mgs per week - dont worry about orals

 

[joe shmoe]

well superman, seems like some of the other guys didnt want to play along with me. you got spoon fed the info that you wanted.

good luck in your cycle.

have a nice day

 

[superman15]

Im not a beginner in the bodybuilding world, i have been working out naturally for about 4 years. i honestly dont know much about test, but i know that all of them have different life spans. i dont know the advantages of one over the other, i guess i could do a little homework on test. What are all the abreviations for this stuff. some of yall are confusing me, haha.

 

[joe shmoe]

but i know that all of them have different life spans.

correct answer. its actually the half life that we're talking about. the word after "test" is the name of the ester attached to it. the ester dictates the time/speed of release of the hormone(test in this case). test suspension(no ester) has about a 12 hr half life. therefore, it NEEDS to be injected ED(everyday).

test prop(propianate) has about a 2-3 day half life. you could shoot it EOD(every other day).

test enanthate has about a 5 day halflife. this could be shot 2 times a week.

test cyp(cypionate) is very similar to test enanthate...or just plain old enanthate as its usually referred to.

test is about the cheapest steroid you could get. and, as an added bonus, its just about the best thing out there for muscle gain. but it does have some negative side effects....as do most steroids.

next question: how often do you want to shoot? ED, EOD, 2x/week?


have a nice day

 

[superman15]

i want to inject 1-2 times a week

 

[nick e. guns]

I finished my first cycle about four months ago and gained 35 lbs. from it. I kept 27. The cycle was 500 mg test enanthate (long ester), and 400 mg equipoise ( another long estered anabolic which stacks very well with test) divided into two shots per week (250/200) on monday and thursday. It was a great first cycle for me, but too be honest, I spent 50% of my time researching the actual anabolics (as that should take you no more than a month of serious reading and research to gather a firm understanding of the major compounds) and 50% of my time researching proper PCT. Anyone who eats right, trains right, and gets proper rest will grow with a good anabolic cycle, but I think most intelligent bodyduilder's main concern is how to keep what they have gained post-cycle and to return their body to its normal state of functioning as quickly as possible. These guys have just laid out a few good basic cycles for you. What you should focus on now, is how to run proper PCT. Good luck with your cycle.