What’s a “safe”starting ratio of Test:EQ?

[trenisbest]

I’m not a high aromatizer at all. I can use a gram of test without any high e sides aside from water retention.

Looking to add in EQ to lower e slightly and maybe not be as bloated while increasing the number of anabolics i’m using.

Would 2:1 Test:EQ be a good spot to start or should I start even lower?

 

[RockyP]

I’m not a high aromatizer at all. I can use a gram of test without any high e sides aside from water retention.

Looking to add in EQ to lower e slightly and maybe not be as bloated while increasing the number of anabolics i’m using.

Would 2:1 Test:EQ be a good spot to start or should I start even lower?

2:1 is fine.

If you’re getting water retention then you are aromatizing plenty. Get before and after bloodwork. EQ can really smash E2 in some people.

 

[nullandvoid]

I'll be glad when the EQ fad is over, and we can all stop pretending that it's equivalent or even better than Primo.

 

[trenisbest]

I'll be glad when the EQ fad is over, and we can all stop pretending that it's equivalent or even better than Primo.

i don’t use primo since it’s far more harsh on hair compared to eq

 

[RockyP]

I'll be glad when the EQ fad is over, and we can all stop pretending that it's equivalent or even better than Primo.

I never ended up trying EQ. Had plenty of primo and didn’t want to chance it with the EQ anxiety I had years ago.

 

[IndividualMan]

I'll be glad when the EQ fad is over, and we can all stop pretending that it's equivalent or even better than Primo.

EQ is great.
I will def try Primo in the future, but the feeling i get on EQ is unreal.
I feel like i could run forever towards abeautiful sunset, like they do at the end of those animated horse movies from my childhood.
No way Primo will do that for me. Maybe it will do other stuff tho.

 

[AlteredAttitude]

EQ is great.
I will def try Primo in the future, but the feeling i get on EQ is unreal.
I feel like i could run forever towards abeautiful sunset, like they do at the end of those animated horse movies from my childhood.
No way Primo will do that for me. Maybe it will do other stuff tho.

Why will primo not make you frolic toward the sunset. How do you already know this without running it?

 

[newguy2]

like they do at the end of those animated horse movies from my childhood.

I laughed way too hard at this lol. My daughter used to love said movies.

 

[Slowww]

I'll be glad when the EQ fad is over, and we can all stop pretending that it's equivalent or even better than Primo.

It’s better than primo. That is for the missus. I ain’t a lady— Im a friggin thoroughbred Shetland pony.

 

[trenisbest]

It’s better than primo. That is for the missus. I ain’t a lady— Im a friggin thoroughbred Shetland pony.

would let’s say 300mg test and 150mg EQ have the same anabolism as most 450mg Test just with better estrogen control?

 

[IndividualMan]

Why will primo not make you frolic toward the sunset. How do you already know this without running it?

Horsey steroid horsey feelz.
simple as.

Primo might feel great, but EQ is unlike anything I have ever taken. The endurance gain is outrageous. Above ~400 mg/week i also get as hungry as a horse, which is why I am below that dosage atm. Vascularity is also fun.

would let’s say 300mg test and 150mg EQ have the same anabolism as most 450mg Test?

not quite due to ester weight (undecylenate ester is heavy so less active drug)

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Horsey steroid horsey feelz.
simple as.

Primo might feel great, but EQ is unlike anything I have ever taken.

So I am not talking about anabolism here....

Nope , I am running primo for the first time, and it doesn't fiddle with my brain as EQ does - idk if it's serotonin or a dopamine rush - but like you @IndividualMan described, I feel bloody amazing on EQ-- >> Nothing can pull me down, just f.... laughing and 'Happy'go'lucky' for 3 months...
EQ might be my, what Drostanolone does to others.... - No anxiety at all, as others sometimes report.

But its the only drug inside the AAS realm so far, that i get some kind of a mild happy rush from...

Anabolism for me, I rate Test higher, big fan of ordinary Test - Yep, I am boring I know it- just my 2 cents

 

[Gonz0]

I can only run it at a little under 1/3 of whatever my test dose is without crashing e2

Just saw your a low aromatizer, I would definitely start at 1/3 your test dose

 

[BALLISTIC]

I’m not a high aromatizer at all. I can use a gram of test without any high e sides aside from water retention.

Looking to add in EQ to lower e slightly and maybe not be as bloated while increasing the number of anabolics i’m using.

Would 2:1 Test:EQ be a good spot to start or should I start even lower?

My personal experience and I'm much like you. I don't aromatize much up to 1gT. I have to run EQ 3:1/4:1 to avoid crashing E. Get labs to have a certainly for yourself.

Even at 3:1 for an extended time, the endurance, and benefits of EQ are eventually wiped out by crunchy joints, and lethargy. I have found that 2/4mg estradiol cypionate weekly cures this and I consistently come in around 60-65 on E. The Ec, helps with everything, but that is my personal experience.

@Raiders789 is running an interesting cycle with low dose T, high Primo, and estradiol valerate. It will be interesting to see the results and feedback. If this is received positively, I am thinking of planning, a 1:4 T/EQ cycle. I'll bypass the whole aromatase bottleneck with Ec.



Thread 'Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment' Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment

 

[prher]

My personal experience and I'm much like you. I don't aromatize much up to 1gT. I have to run EQ 3:1/4:1 to avoid crashing E. Get labs to have a certainly for yourself.

Even at 3:1 for an extended time, the endurance, and benefits of EQ are eventually wiped out by crunchy joints, and lethargy. I have found that 2/4mg estradiol cypionate weekly cures this and I consistently come in around 60-65 on E. The Ec, helps with everything, but that is my personal experience.

@Raiders789 is running an interesting cycle with low dose T, high Primo, and estradiol valerate. It will be interesting to see the results and feedback. If this is received positively, I am thinking of planning, a 1:4 T/EQ cycle. I'll bypass the whole aromatase bottleneck with Ec.



Thread 'Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment' Unique Test/Primo/E2 Base Cycle + EO Experiment

so for people who can run 1g Test with maybe only some puffy face and no other high estrogen sides would 3:1 be your recommendation for good a good starting point?

 

[BALLISTIC]

so for people who can run 1g Test with maybe only some puffy face and no other high estrogen sides would 3:1 be your recommendation for good a good starting point?

I don't want to recommend without labs obviously to confirm so ensure you take that route and don't short cut yourself on guessing.

But yes on 1G/T that's all I've ever really had trouble with is a little bubble face water retention. But with T/EQ 3:1, it never happens, but eventually the EQ dominates and I start feeling like crap from low E2.

Another interesting thing is with the primo shortage everyone jumped to EQ. It seems the E2 issue is common but dose dependent.

Duration of the cycle always became a factor but with EQ, I consistently ran cycle longer to actually hit serum levels and benefit. I didn't notice EQ until week 6 to 7 at the earliest.

I have never taken to opportunity to explore this with Bold/c.

 

[1Megaman]

I was on a cruise running 300mg test and 125mg of bold cyp I know not exactly the same as EQ but my e2 came back at 24. Just for some reference

 

[prher]

I don't want to recommend without labs obviously to confirm so ensure you take that route and don't short cut yourself on guessing.

But yes on 1G/T that's all I've ever really had trouble with is a little bubble face water retention. But with T/EQ 3:1, it never happens, but eventually the EQ dominates and I start feeling like crap from low E2.

Another interesting thing is with the primo shortage everyone jumped to EQ. It seems the E2 issue is common but dose dependent.

Duration of the cycle always became a factor but with EQ, I consistently ran cycle longer to actually hit serum levels and benefit. I didn't notice EQ until week 6 to 7 at the earliest.

I have never taken to opportunity to explore this with Bold/c.

I assume you didn’t front load or anything so as you approached saturation at around week 10 is when you had E2 issues at 3:1?

I haven’t run EQ yet so not sure how I respond so trying to fiigure out where I should start without the chance of nuking E2 or running into E2 issues. Maybe 4:1 should be a safe start?