Interested in trying some. Some people say it's safe and others say they are dangerous. What do you guys think. My main concern are the people saying it can increase cancer cells and such.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
What's the general consensus on peptides. Are they good or bad?
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BigDadd7
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Can you be more specific?
Ghoul
Member
Peptide is as broad a category as mushroom.
They can range from doing nothing and being completely harmless to instant death.
Since you sound like you're interested in long term risks, I'll answer it from that perspective.
If you stick to UGL copies of peptides available as FDA approved pharma meds, you buy some degree of safety given the rigorous standards for demonstrating safety required for approval, as well as ongoing monitoring so if a problem develops it will be pulled from the market.
Unfortunately there's some added risk from unmonitored manufacturing and the limited testing that's available to end users. I've seen UGL tirzapatide that differs slightly from pharma in a way that can cause it to accumulate in organs (instead of being excreted in urine), that may be toxic over time.
UGL anything always carries risk. But you can take some steps to minimize it.
99% of what you're injecting is the BAC used to reconstitute. Using pharma BAC virtually guarantees that's tested and safe.
Filtering can remove many (but not all) potential contaminants from glass shards (common in cheap vials), and other trash, large aggregates that interact with the immune system, as well as guaranteeing sterility to prevent bacteria from being injected. Jano identified 20% of peptide vials tested for sterility to be contaminated with bacteria. Keep in mind that test only identifies 5 common bacteria that signals the peptide was produced in unsterile conditions, and any number of other bacteria could be present.
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eery
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thats as specific as asking what we think about electrics.
BamaCrazy
Banned
I’d be more concerned with which ones are a total waste of money. Very few do what they claim to do.
Tdeck81
Banned
Not sure exactly what info or peptides you’re referring to but I’ll take a shot in the dark.
As someone new to steroids and peptides I’ve been doing a lot of reading on the various “compounds”. Right on this website you’ll find breakdowns of different anabolic steroids and peptides. Truth be told, until recently, I didn’t know what peptides were. Once I developed a basic understanding of the compounds I thought could be useful, I searched the forums for more info.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but many of the compounds are not “approved” so finding highly detailed studies/analysis might be difficult. My honest suggestion is to narrow down the specific compounds you might be interested in and make reading about them your new hobby. Once you think you have a general handle on the topic, ask specific questions and people will be glad to help you along.
As someone new to steroids and peptides I’ve been doing a lot of reading on the various “compounds”. Right on this website you’ll find breakdowns of different anabolic steroids and peptides. Truth be told, until recently, I didn’t know what peptides were. Once I developed a basic understanding of the compounds I thought could be useful, I searched the forums for more info.
Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but many of the compounds are not “approved” so finding highly detailed studies/analysis might be difficult. My honest suggestion is to narrow down the specific compounds you might be interested in and make reading about them your new hobby. Once you think you have a general handle on the topic, ask specific questions and people will be glad to help you along.
BigDadd7
Member
What do you think about electrics?
Ghoul
Member
Many (not all) of the unapproved peptides were developed by pharma and rejected for one reason or another. Pharma isn't required to disclose any hazards with drugs they're developing until phase 2 trials. There have been phase 1 human trial fatalities, kept confidential by non-disclosure agreements and payments made to families, so I always assume there's a very good reason a promising development would be abandoned after (at least) a few million was spent on it.
Some are purely products of research, and never commercialized for some reason (which I also find suspicious).
I read somewhere 70% of peptide/protein drugs in development that make it to immunogenicity testing, in a test tube or the first human injections, fail at that stage for safety reasons.
Tdeck81
Banned
Interesting food for thought…admittedly I haven’t researched their origins and assumed they were mainly pharma developments. Having academic/research roots didn’t cross my mind. I agree 100% people should be cautious of those abandoned during trials. Pharma isn’t quick to throw away winning lottery tickets.
Being cynical by nature and seeing conflicting personal accounts regarding most of the peptides and their efficacy, I personally have no clue what is “fact”. I say research and read and at the end of the day to each his own.
I really fell for peptides as the latest and greatest wonder, since then I have tried a handful, both ULG and compounding pharma.
Been at it for 9 months and this is my personal experience,
Tirz works as advertised
BPC 157 , broke my heart , tried all different dosing procols didn't do anything that Ibuprofen couldn't do .
TB500 /BPC 157 same
Tesmorlin ; jury still out
PT141; not for me, sick headache nausea for 24 hours, tried different source and doses,nope.
Epitalon , nope
Oxytocin ,nope
Glutathione, yes
Mots C , yes me like
NAD, yes,me like
Pineal, snake oil , use zquil
Ipamorlin , yesish
I feel like a lot of these were failed attempts, I guess they can be dangerous if wildly abused, no one's going to jail for peptide possession and I can pay for them online with a cc and don't have to fuck around with crypto.
A 10 ml vial of test c, quality stuff works , most of the stuff my list was money wasted.
I think in the not so distant future most peptides will fizzle out and become a thing of the past.
Steroids are proven work horses,yes,no free lunch,but they do what they say they will do or they wouldn't be banned in sports..
Been at it for 9 months and this is my personal experience,
Tirz works as advertised
BPC 157 , broke my heart , tried all different dosing procols didn't do anything that Ibuprofen couldn't do .
TB500 /BPC 157 same
Tesmorlin ; jury still out
PT141; not for me, sick headache nausea for 24 hours, tried different source and doses,nope.
Epitalon , nope
Oxytocin ,nope
Glutathione, yes
Mots C , yes me like
NAD, yes,me like
Pineal, snake oil , use zquil
Ipamorlin , yesish
I feel like a lot of these were failed attempts, I guess they can be dangerous if wildly abused, no one's going to jail for peptide possession and I can pay for them online with a cc and don't have to fuck around with crypto.
A 10 ml vial of test c, quality stuff works , most of the stuff my list was money wasted.
I think in the not so distant future most peptides will fizzle out and become a thing of the past.
Steroids are proven work horses,yes,no free lunch,but they do what they say they will do or they wouldn't be banned in sports..
Stealth500
Member
Searching online your screen will be flooded with misinformation about all these amazing benefits of peptides from UGL resellers or coaches selling books and advertising resellers for kickbacks. All these amazing new miracle drugs and everything is all about mitochondria these days.
If you want to be a lab rat and start jabbing yourself with random powders know the risk involved, read and get information from actual studies and clinical trials. Then post up a log so everyone here can at least get some anecdotal reports and maybe even some bloodwork for the benefit of the community.
If you want to be a lab rat and start jabbing yourself with random powders know the risk involved, read and get information from actual studies and clinical trials. Then post up a log so everyone here can at least get some anecdotal reports and maybe even some bloodwork for the benefit of the community.
eery
Member
extremely dangerous, electricity kills thousands of people a year. I actually lost my grandfather and grandmother to it. I would advice anyone that wants to stay alive to stay away from anything related to electricity or electrics.
Would you elaborate on your successful experiences please?
Have you tried or plan to try HGH, SS31, IGF-LR3 or AOD9604?
Peptides may be snake oil but they are getting fairly cheap and it’s good to try different ones I guess.
Ghoul
Member
Making these broad generalizations is ridiculous.
It's like saying "Tablets may be snake oil..."
Is Ozempic snake oil? Zepbound? rHGH? Is MT-2 or PT-141 snake oil?
The answer is that just like substances that come in tablet form, some have potent effects, some don't do anything at all and are bullshit. It's specific to the compound.
Hi,
Fore sure and these are only MY personal experiences, I did much research and podcast listening before sticking anything in me and I’m also on a couple of peptide forums, so I went into peptides with both eyes wide open.
NAD and Mots -C provided an enhanced mental state of mind, more energy, clarity and focus, not a caffeine feeling. Used it 5 days a week at 40 units each ED
Tirz, yes works for me 100% minimal sides, titrating up to 10mg was my sweet spot, not I’m on a maintenance dose 5mg 1x week .
Ipamorelin , wanted to love it after 6 months, I decided to move on, could have maybe stuck with it, but I felt there were better alternatives.
Yes, I do take HGH daily 4 or 5 uis depending on my workout schedule, on fasted cardio morning am shot, otherwise pm shot 4ius
Fore sure and these are only MY personal experiences, I did much research and podcast listening before sticking anything in me and I’m also on a couple of peptide forums, so I went into peptides with both eyes wide open.
NAD and Mots -C provided an enhanced mental state of mind, more energy, clarity and focus, not a caffeine feeling. Used it 5 days a week at 40 units each ED
Tirz, yes works for me 100% minimal sides, titrating up to 10mg was my sweet spot, not I’m on a maintenance dose 5mg 1x week .
Ipamorelin , wanted to love it after 6 months, I decided to move on, could have maybe stuck with it, but I felt there were better alternatives.
Yes, I do take HGH daily 4 or 5 uis depending on my workout schedule, on fasted cardio morning am shot, otherwise pm shot 4ius
Yeah I should have written SOME peptides for sure.
Oldhand
Member
I’ve researched many peptides and I agree, some seem too risky. MT2 for example.
I’ve only tried a few but here is what I can report:
I like reta so far. Worked up to 10mg a week and I’ll stay at this dose for a while and see. It took off a few lbs of fat so far, and this is without adjusting my calories. I want to mention that I am already very lean. I think Reta is one that actually works.
I’ve tried that BPC/TB stack. I’m not sure if it helped heal anything faster, but I do think it helps with inflammation. I noticed knee and shoulder pain reduced after 6 weeks, but I cannot say it was these compounds with 100% certainty. I’m hopeful enough I decided to try a glow stack.
Been on the Glow stack for about 10 days so far. This is BPC157, TB500, and GHK-Cu just in case someone doesn’t know. Obviously it’s too soon to say but no bad news yet. All three of these are supposed to promote healing. I have enough for 20 weeks. I will try to remember to update as it goes.
2ndchancesNK
Member
Hi Oldhand,
Please do update. I’ve been seeing this stack popping up on various sources lists and have become curious. Mostly for it’s anti-inflammatory benefits; looks like a lot of people report joint/tendon relief from the BPC/TB combo and the GHK seems to be beneficial for those trying to improve skin quality.
I think I might take a crack at it.
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