what's the peak gh secretion stimulated by Ipamorelin?

[Luke391]

Anyone knows of a human study that shows the effect of Ipa on gh secretion? The only one I find uses a dose of 7mg (insanely high) and results in a peak of 214ng/ml (also super high), but can anyone find a study that uses more normal dosages? Like 100mcg-500mcg? all the others I find are on rats, pigs or dogs.

before yall start with the "just use HGH bro", I have my reasons for wanting to use secretogogues. Just looking for more info

 

[OldGHGuy]

Its small, like 5-10% from baseline at your dosages, from my experience. I dont waste my time and money with it anymore

 

[songsofpyramids]

Its small, like 5-10% from baseline at your dosages, from my experience. I dont waste my time and money with it anymore

This is my experience as well. Unless you’re using it specifically for sleep hygiene I think it’s a waste of money.

I have my reasons for wanting to use secretogogues

Can I ask what your reasons are to use a product with a fraction of the human testing and real world use of hgh? If you believe the safety profile of ipamorelin (or any other ghrp for that matter) is better/safer than hgh you’re being conned by marketing trying to sell you something. You also aren’t going to get much out of ipa without a ghrh as well like mod grf 1-29 or tesamorelin.

 

[Ateam2023]

i have to agree its a waste of money as well as personal time expecting results that are sub par at best from my experience

 

[hghlover]

Agree waste of money

 

[Luke391]

This is my experience as well. Unless you’re using it specifically for sleep hygiene I think it’s a waste of money.


Can I ask what your reasons are to use a product with a fraction of the human testing and real world use of hgh? If you believe the safety profile of ipamorelin (or any other ghrp for that matter) is better/safer than hgh you’re being conned by marketing trying to sell you something. You also aren’t going to get much out of ipa without a ghrh as well like mod grf 1-29 or tesamorelin.

It's just that what people tell and what I actually read on research papers is completely different.

On different forums I often read that gh secretogogues cannot compare to real hgh and that theay are not safer. I can agree that hgh can be better because you can always increase the dose, but I disagree about the safety, also I think secretogogues are better than many of you make them out to be.

I see reaserch articles showing 100mcg of ghrp6 alone getting a peak gh response of 31-46ng/ml depending on the article, sure it is for a very short half life, but you can just inject more often, smilar ghrp2 and even higher for hexarelin. In comparison, 0.6iu of hgh get a peak of around 2.5ng/ml, so 100mcg of ghrp6 get a peak equivalent to at least 7iu of actual hgh, the half life is very short but injecting with an insulin syringe is really not that hard or bothersome. Also there are studies that are more long term (4-12 weeks) and so far I always see extremely minimal to no side effects reported. I know about using a ghrp+ ghrh and that's what I'd do. Either way I want to try out the secretogogues, if It doesn't work like I was hoping for then I'm wrong I guess, but why not try. I also wanted to try secretogogues before I shut down my pituitary gland with hgh. I was thinking of Ipa (even tho it's the weakest) because it has no disensitazion issue or cortisol and prolactin realise, and with no real saturation dose and virtually no side effects you can go really high. Also the half life of Ipa is 2-2.5 hours, which isn't that short compared to other GHRPs, so even if it's weaker the longer AUC might make up for it.

Either way I don't see why not give it a try, on some sources this stuff is cheap af, worst case scenario I don't like it and stop

 

[OldGHGuy]

Then stop argueing and give it a try.

Do bloods before and after and report your results. Many of the people on this forum have done just that and have determined thay are a waste of money. But if you need to find out the hard way, please do.

 

[Ateam2023]

yea i agree stfu about trying to get a confirmation about the use of secretogogues , how long are you gonna argue your mute point , just do your sub par peptides and learn from personal experience case closed

 

[songsofpyramids]

but I disagree about the safety

You’re flat out being conned if you think secretagogue are safer. That “information” comes explicitly from ppl like Datbtru and other research chem dealers and compounding pharmacies who are actively trying to sell you shit. Hgh is considered so safe it’s prescribed in doses as high as 18iu ed. There are studies with people doing 30iu ed. There is 1/1000 or less the amount of testing on secretagogues than on hgh, and probably 1/100,000 the amount of real world use. There are no long term safety profiles of gh secretagogues whatsoever.

What magic makes you think they’re safer with no long term studies?

also I think secretogogues are better than many of you make them out to be

You’ve chosen the hard way I guess. There’s a reason we are all shitting on them, but of course you’re smarter than people who have been down this very same road.