What's your "2 weeks out" protocol?

[400degrees]

For all the ppl that compete out there, do you change anything at 2 weeks out like drugs/training/calories/macros? How do you go to a show and feel ok? I'm definitely not anywhere near competition level but I'm going to an event/photo shoot overseas in 15 days that I've been physically preparing for and need to be somewhat with it mentally. Looks wise I'm shredded but mentally also shredded. I'm looking for ideas on what adjustments to make but to not in turn ruin the physique. I'm angry, tired and hungry, not sure if it's the tren or the deficit or both. I know the time constraint makes this difficult, I would've dropped to trt/maintenance a month ago but I got carried away with my cycle. I'd like to continue the some fat loss into the next two weeks. Here's my current shit, if it matters:

Pinned ED weekly total- 400 testE , 400 primo, 100trenA. -Plus 5iu GH daily
Calories- roughly 2200 (250P,200C,50F)
Training- 5 day split, 1 day off, 45 mins cardio daily

My idea was to drop the tren and hgh now and throw in Anavar 40mg/day for 2 weeks and into the event. Put HCG back in to raise e2 slightly (i feel better at top of range when running test/primo 1:1). Also maybe add dhea/preg supplementation. For training/food: keep calories and cardio the same and ease up on the weights. Your thoughts on this?

I'd like to have fun at this event/shoot but if not I'll deal with it. I just thought maybe someone around here would have a strategy as it seems to resemble what you guys go through to do shows. If you think this is more the deficit than the drugs then would there be a safe way to increase calories without looking like shit? Do I back off the training and keep calories? If you think this is more drug related please tell. If I can't have it both ways then fuck me I've learned my lesson.

Just a side note: first time running tren and it's fucking awesome. Minimal sides, good gains/fat loss. Also I think keeping e2 low on tren is a must. For work/business it seems to help motivation/deal making but I can see how personal relationships would suffer after prolonged use.

 

[Palifter]

If you look shredded, change nothing….

Do you have current pics?

 

[Liter O' Test]

I dont know shit except i would personally use winstrol and/or
what type of photoshoot?

 

[400degrees]

Too

If you look shredded, change nothing….

Do you have current pics?

Too many recognizable tattoos, my whole body would be blurred out. Ya if I change nothing I’ll look sick but I’ll feel like dogshit as I currently do.

 

[400degrees]

I dont know shit except i would personally use winstrol and/or
what type of photoshoot?

Business promotional. Although not related to fitness but will be in swimsuit.
How’s the “feels” on winstrol? Would I drop primo for it? Is it too late to add in 2 weeks out?

 

[Grey Spartan]

Too

Too many recognizable tattoos, my whole body would be blurred out. Ya if I change nothing I’ll look sick but I’ll feel like dogshit as I currently do.

I feel you on the tattoos. But you could always send them to him in the DM. I wouldn't pass up on his advice...

 

[Intrepid]

Orals and DHTS usually go up hard in the last 2 weeks leading into a competition, or in your case photoshoot.

mast/var/winstrol/halo/proviron/tren (19 nor) all good options. a Higher AI dose can also dry you out more, but obviously will crash your estro and you might feel like crap for a little bit (but you'll look good)

a mild potassium sparing diuretic like HCTZ could also add a nice finishing touch

 

[buzzingonaas]

Wouldn’t change anything except for a mild increase in carbs a couple days prior. I suggest reaching out to @Palifter with your pics since he offered advice based on your physique

 

[Intrepid]

Wouldn’t change anything except for a mild increase in carbs a couple days prior. I suggest reaching out to @Palifter with your pics since he offered advice based on your physique

yeah @Palifter has probably the best physique on the board, and on PM. I'd follow what he has to say OP

 

[400degrees]

If you look shredded, change nothing….

Do you have current pics?

Man you look unreal, absolutely amazing. TBH I’m probably not shredded by anyone here’s standards, especially yours. I’d be hesitant to send pics. Only my 3rd cycle, never reached natty potential and started lifting later in life. But fwiw still in the best shape of anyone I personally know and I love training and the community. Obviously I’d be getting premium free advice from someone who looks like you but do you need pics to verify I’m not BS or to actually diagnose the situation?

 

[rebornmuscles]

Personally I cut all peds and hgh at least 2 weeks before the show to reduce water retention and turn with only oxan, winstrol and some arimidex to reduce the maximum water retention and play with carbs next to my condition

 

[88general88]

Too

Too many recognizable tattoos, my whole body would be blurred out. Ya if I change nothing I’ll look sick but I’ll feel like dogshit as I currently do.

I love the Winny/var/TREN combo not sure what you have to work with but yeah cut out GH, lower testosterone increase primo

 

[400degrees]

Personally I cut all peds and hgh at least 2 weeks before the show to reduce water retention and turn with only oxan, winstrol and some arimidex to reduce the maximum water retention and play with carbs next to my condition

What’s your var/winstrol dose at that point? I don’t have winstrol bit I was thinking I could replace that with higher dose proviron

 

[DugPrime]

Orals and DHTS usually go up hard in the last 2 weeks leading into a competition, or in your case photoshoot.

mast/var/winstrol/halo/proviron/tren (19 nor) all good options. a Higher AI dose can also dry you out more, but obviously will crash your estro and you might feel like crap for a little bit (but you'll look good)

a mild potassium sparing diuretic like HCTZ could also add a nice finishing touch

Why DHTs?

 

[Intrepid]

Why DHTs?

Cosmetic effects. They help harden the muscle and pull water

 

[400degrees]

Why DHTs?

I’m sure there’s a better answer out there but DHT derived compounds give the muscle a slightly different look, more grainy/dry and they don’t convert to e2 resulting in less water retention equaling more definition. But only if you’re lean enough which I think I ran out of time and missed the mark on that at this point.

 

[DugPrime]

Cosmetic effects. They help harden the muscle and pull water

The water-shedding effect you're talking about comes from mild antagonism at vasopressin receptors, specifically the V2 receptors. Using a vasopressin antagonist like tolvaptan would be healthier overall and actually give a stronger diuretic effect. Plus, these don’t mess with electrolyte balances like HCTZ does.

 

[88general88]

Why DHTs?

dhts do not aromatize, that's the main reason. you can increase proviron, but proviron is more or less the same as masteron. still masteron doesn't even cone close to giving the dry look that winny does. winstrol also has the ability to kill progesterone, slightly different angle than most take when trying to kill just estrogen, can be especially useful if having used tren since tren doesn't aromatize but does increase progesterone. winstrol also is especially effective at attatching to shbg. thus increasing most other anabolics potency. like is said before I would definitely increase AI to lower e2 even more most even switch from arimidex to something stronger. or at least a higher dose of adex. lower test to slightly lower than trt maybe 100mg ew or switch to prop, increase primo. increase proviron if that's all I have to work with, and cut out the gh, manipulate carb intake to just mornings or immediately after workout .

 

[400degrees]

dhts do not aromatize, that's the main reason. you can increase proviron, but proviron is more or less the same as masteron. still masteron doesn't even cone close to giving the dry look that winny does. winstrol also has the ability to kill progesterone, slightly different angle than most take when trying to kill just estrogen, can be especially useful if having used tren since tren doesn't aromatize but does increase progesterone. winstrol also is especially effective at attatching to shbg. thus increasing most other anabolics potency. like is said before I would definitely increase AI to lower e2 even more most even switch from arimidex to something stronger. or at least a higher dose of adex. lower test to slightly lower than trt maybe 100mg ew or switch to prop, increase primo. increase proviron if that's all I have to work with, and cut out the gh, manipulate carb intake to just mornings or immediately after workout .

That wasn’t me asking about dht’s, I know what they do. Good info though, I get the science behind going after progesterone and lowering e2. But how do you get out of bed with those levels crushed like that? On looks vs feels I’m probably 50/50 on importance. I still need my dick to work throughout this 6 day event.

 

[DugPrime]

dhts do not aromatize, that's the main reason. you can increase proviron, but proviron is more or less the same as masteron. still masteron doesn't even cone close to giving the dry look that winny does. winstrol also has the ability to kill progesterone, slightly different angle than most take when trying to kill just estrogen, can be especially useful if having used tren since tren doesn't aromatize but does increase progesterone. winstrol also is especially effective at attatching to shbg. thus increasing most other anabolics potency. like is said before I would definitely increase AI to lower e2 even more most even switch from arimidex to something stronger. or at least a higher dose of adex. lower test to slightly lower than trt maybe 100mg ew or switch to prop, increase primo. increase proviron if that's all I have to work with, and cut out the gh, manipulate carb intake to just mornings or immediately after workout .

19-nors boost progestogenic effects without actually raising progesterone, so there’s no point in trying to lower it with meds. Doing that can mess you up—feels bad and isn’t healthy. It’s like tanking your estrogen just to get a bit of water loss, even though estrogen actually has tons of protective benefits.