malfeasance
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Unless we are also rich.
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
What's your current old man cycle?
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malfeasance
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In which case the working out does not matter so much . . .
If you feel good and are happy with your gym results...who cares what some numbers on the paper say?
Sub Q might stretch the absorption out some if the PIP isn't too bad.
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BamaCrazy
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That’s why I avoid subq. No abortions for me.
Werewolf Piss
Member
Speak for yourself, gramps. Ive 150IQ, 18" biceps and and 8" sausage and my aura exudes as much to any fertile doll.
Werewolf Piss
Member
Who the hell wants to stretch an abortion out?! Just get it over with, I say
Lol!
Very true. Wasn’t sure if the rollercoaster up and down would affect gains over using something stable like enanthate.
Eddie.
Member
You can do subq and avoid abortions too. Just pin with the needle cap on.
roofer22
Member
Yep they see us as old fuckers. I've been married for 25 years so I don't really care what they think.
dallascowboys01
New Member
I am fat and 46 been on TRT for a while at 150 but started taking it seriously to get my health and weight back in check. I have found that counting everything I eat and trying to get enough protein has help a whole lot. I am thinking about starting reta low dose say around 3mg weekly split and maybe some GH but after reading all the sides of tbe other AASs I believe I am just gonna get to around 15% body fat, 23% to 25% now. And then if I need, do a first cycle with testosterone, maybe 250 or 300.
Current Old Man Stack (turning 50 on 7/13)– July 2025
Anabolics:
Test E (Jelfa) + Primobolan Depot: Daily 1 mL injection (drawn from 5 mL mix – 300 mg Test / 200 mg Primo weekly)
Oral Tbol: 30 mg/day
HGH (Somato): 3 IU/day – 2 IU AM, 1 IU PM
Peptides & Adjuncts:
MOTS-c: 5x/week, AM fasted
Glutathione + Methylene Blue pen: AM, taken with MOTS-c
TB-500 + BPC-157 (premixed): post-lift
Selank: AM, focus and autonomic balance
GHK-Cu: sub-Q + topical use on skin (abdomen, elbows, crow’s feet)
(No TA-1 currently, but cycle to help immunity)
Supplements:
AM: NMN, Ubiquinol, NAC, EPA/DHA, Vitamins
PM: Magnesium (Threonate + Glycinate), Spermidine, GABA/melatonin-based sleep stack
Bloods (latest):
Total T: 1250 ng/dL | Free T: 32 ng/dL
E2 (sensitive): ~32 pg/mL | LDL: 68 | HDL: 64 | Trig: 72
CRP-hs: 0.3 | A1C: 5.1%
Diet:
Cutting (~2,000–2,200 kcal):
~180g protein / 75g fat / 100–150g carbs (training-day adjusted)
Mediterranean foundation, plus whey post-lift
Tirzepatide to keep appetite and A1C in check. I'm on Telmisartan (30mg), Crestor (20mg), and a low-dose rhythm med (3.75 Bisocard), all monitored. That’s why I’m not sweating BP or cholesterol on Primo/Tbol.
16:8 or 18:6 fasting on off-days
Training:
Rucking: Tues/Thurs – 3.5–5 miles with 44.5 lb
Lifting: Mon/Wed/Fri – garage gym while my trainer’s on his usual summer month off
Recovery: hikes, long walks, calisthenics (optional Sat)
Body Comp & Transition: Down over 75 pounds the past year (~260 → ~180).
Currently around 20–23% BF (via Navy method + smart scale), aiming for 15%. Just picked up a Garmin scale to tighten the tracking.
Skin’s holding up better than expected, though I’ve got minor sag at the elbows. I’ve been hitting problem areas with GHK-Cu (sub-Q + topical) and a red light/TMS wand on the lower abs and crow’s feet.
Planning a rest phase (TRT-only) soon, then transitioning into a lean bulk to help restore fullness and minimize loose skin.
Not posting physique shots yet, but I’ll throw up a few clothed ones. Full progress pics to follow once this cut wraps.
Anabolics:
Test E (Jelfa) + Primobolan Depot: Daily 1 mL injection (drawn from 5 mL mix – 300 mg Test / 200 mg Primo weekly)
Oral Tbol: 30 mg/day
HGH (Somato): 3 IU/day – 2 IU AM, 1 IU PM
Peptides & Adjuncts:
MOTS-c: 5x/week, AM fasted
Glutathione + Methylene Blue pen: AM, taken with MOTS-c
TB-500 + BPC-157 (premixed): post-lift
Selank: AM, focus and autonomic balance
GHK-Cu: sub-Q + topical use on skin (abdomen, elbows, crow’s feet)
(No TA-1 currently, but cycle to help immunity)
Supplements:
AM: NMN, Ubiquinol, NAC, EPA/DHA, Vitamins
PM: Magnesium (Threonate + Glycinate), Spermidine, GABA/melatonin-based sleep stack
Bloods (latest):
Total T: 1250 ng/dL | Free T: 32 ng/dL
E2 (sensitive): ~32 pg/mL | LDL: 68 | HDL: 64 | Trig: 72
CRP-hs: 0.3 | A1C: 5.1%
Diet:
Cutting (~2,000–2,200 kcal):
~180g protein / 75g fat / 100–150g carbs (training-day adjusted)
Mediterranean foundation, plus whey post-lift
Tirzepatide to keep appetite and A1C in check. I'm on Telmisartan (30mg), Crestor (20mg), and a low-dose rhythm med (3.75 Bisocard), all monitored. That’s why I’m not sweating BP or cholesterol on Primo/Tbol.
16:8 or 18:6 fasting on off-days
Training:
Rucking: Tues/Thurs – 3.5–5 miles with 44.5 lb
Lifting: Mon/Wed/Fri – garage gym while my trainer’s on his usual summer month off
Recovery: hikes, long walks, calisthenics (optional Sat)
Body Comp & Transition: Down over 75 pounds the past year (~260 → ~180).
Currently around 20–23% BF (via Navy method + smart scale), aiming for 15%. Just picked up a Garmin scale to tighten the tracking.
Skin’s holding up better than expected, though I’ve got minor sag at the elbows. I’ve been hitting problem areas with GHK-Cu (sub-Q + topical) and a red light/TMS wand on the lower abs and crow’s feet.
Planning a rest phase (TRT-only) soon, then transitioning into a lean bulk to help restore fullness and minimize loose skin.
Not posting physique shots yet, but I’ll throw up a few clothed ones. Full progress pics to follow once this cut wraps.
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roofer22
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Looks like you put some thought into it. Good luck, I just turned 51 on the 6th. Lots of shots with all those peptides. But hell some days I do five and I'm off cycle.
I am much, much older. Competed 17 times came fairly close to a pro card (guy who beat me got his) so obviously I have done massive quantity cycles in the past.
But now after 60 here is what I run: 160 mgs of test and abut 140 of primo a week. I do my shots once a week and on day 6 I will take a little bit of test undecanoate powder to give me a little boost, so probably 180 mgs/week.
Sometimes if I am having some joint pain I will add 80 mgs of deca. I do 3 (maybe 3.5) it's of GH 4 days a week (at my age you want to look out for cancer). I am also running 5 mg of Tirzepatide/week as I am a good 10 lbs over my ideal weight.
Train my ass off 5 days a week and eat quality food.
But now after 60 here is what I run: 160 mgs of test and abut 140 of primo a week. I do my shots once a week and on day 6 I will take a little bit of test undecanoate powder to give me a little boost, so probably 180 mgs/week.
Sometimes if I am having some joint pain I will add 80 mgs of deca. I do 3 (maybe 3.5) it's of GH 4 days a week (at my age you want to look out for cancer). I am also running 5 mg of Tirzepatide/week as I am a good 10 lbs over my ideal weight.
Train my ass off 5 days a week and eat quality food.
Tell me about it. Women were so, so much hotter 40 years ago when I was young. Women give me that "don't look at me creepy old man" vibe and I want to tell them they would have been a 3 back in my day. Of course I don't.
malfeasance
Member
Diet.
You are on 650mg a week of steroids and using growth hormone as well, but eating only 180 grams of protein?
Bump that up.
250
Also, you do not need anywhere near 75 grams of fat. That is 675 calories all by itself. You can lower that and eat some more clean carbs than 100 grams, and your performance in the gym and physical appearance months from now will thank you.
malfeasance
Member
How is the blood pressure?
Appreciate the input, I get where you're coming from. I’ve actually tried pushing protein higher (past 200g/day), but I start getting real GI and systemic issues: bloating, lethargy, weird histamine-type symptoms. Same with dropping fats too low, it tanks my estrogen hard, even on 650mg test/Primo and HGH.
I’ve found ~180–190g protein with 75–85g fat keeps me stable hormonally and symptom-free, even during a cut. That said, I am open to tweaking macros once I’m out of deficit and into recomp.
What would you suggest for someone who’s sensitive to high protein loads and dependent on fat for mood/libido stability? Always looking to dial this in better.
Eddie.
Member
A carb cycle approach. I won't say anything about your protein intake, if you tried multiple animal sources and you still can't go above 180 then there's no reason pushing it.
But as far as carbs/fats you could easily try lowering your fat intake in training days and swap those calories with carbs and the days you don't train leave it as is. Being able to handle a diet and being consistent is a key factor, especially in your age. If your body doesn't agree with a different/better approach regarding bodybuilding purposes then don't push it. Just my opinion.
malfeasance
Member
Sorry, I have no suggestions. I have not heard of gastrointestinal symptoms (and systemic issues) merely from going over 180 grams a day, certainly not at only 200, nor have I heard of lowering fat intake below 75-85 grams causing low estrogen, which seems more like it might be related to what you are injecting but not the grams of fat intake.
I would only say to experiment. E.g., if you are trying to eat 250 grams of protein in only 3 meals, that is not likely to work for most.
Maybe increase it gradually. 200 grams, split over five meals is only 40 grams of protein per meal.
40 grams of protein from grilled chicken breast is only 130 grams of chicken, or about 4.58 ounces, or, basically, a little over one quarter of a pound of chicken. I just cannot imagine how that is going to cause any gastrointestinal issues, even eaten every three hours. If it does, however, well, then you know. If it doesn't, then maybe you have found a way to make a small change and make it work.
Like I said. Experiment. Make small changes and find out what works.
