What’s your favourite oral for lean muscle?

[Fattyone]

I possibly could, I already run 1.3iu a day for replacement dose. But I was wondering on using mk677 purely for the hunger effect it has with running orals

NPP made me a ravenous animal.

Also worth learning how to force feed at this point instead of relying on drugs.

What calorie count did you end your first cycle at?

 

[buzzingonaas]

Okay lol sounds like shit, so you think it’ll be better to add 4iu of hgh a day instead of an oral? Would that be better? I thought hgh had to be ran year round at high dose to see the growing benefits? Also will 4iu for 12 weeks cause gut growth?

I would run 4iu gh as long as possible (all year round if you can afford it). No it should not cause any gut growth. even 10iu for 12 weeks likely would not cause that. I would go test/npp/gh or test/mast/gh. You’ll have the least side effects and the smoothest overall experience on test/mast/gh but if you really want to try npp it’s not gonna kill you, just may subject you to some mental or physical sides

 

[ChevChelios]

I’d have to say the best oral I got was from this half Asian chick I used to go out with back when I lived in Italy, ykno when they be like slobbin yo knob so hard that you almost fall over when u buss? (Top notch punani too I rly fw them cute ones ykno em ones with a lil tight adorable one? I love them ones with not too much inner lips cos I hate em busted out ones lookin like beef curtains or like someone threw a grenade up they vag that shits nasty) In fact I been talkin to her again n she might be coming to visit me here in the states for the summer n mmmh imma wreck that nani til she no longer Asian

Oh wait u meant oral AAS. I’d say anavar is the most likely to give you that effect but ik a couple people who even managed to use dbol on a cut cos they just added in some amphetamines n somehow that worked but I wouldn’t advise it ahah

 

[BigTomJ]

like the others have said, fuck the orals.
Also fuck making more than 1 change, my understanding is youre already experimenting with a new compound, stick with that and dont add anything else.

Oral AAS are amazingly overrated for muscle growth, the reality is absolutely every single one of them is shit for the strict purpose of adding muscle.
Orals exposure time and strain on health markers prohibit them from being used long enough for any relative level of permanent progress.

Orals are amazing for TEMPORARY BENEFITS, meaning they are best used to break a training plateau or PL meet with the addition of their fast acting effects on strength and additional androgens, or for a specific temporary cosmetic effect for a competition.


for a casual user, taking casual cycles, orals are completely pointless.
They are fun to play with, but they are never going to be a smart choice, as its exceptionally unlikely that you will be hitting any legitimate plateau as a casual user/lifter early in your enhanced training career.

If actual long term results are your goal, you would make greater improvements with better health by simply increasing injectable dose rather than arbitrarily adding in an oral.

 

[Bigbicep]

I would run 4iu gh as long as possible (all year round if you can afford it). No it should not cause any gut growth. even 10iu for 12 weeks likely would not cause that. I would go test/npp/gh or test/mast/gh. You’ll have the least side effects and the smoothest overall experience on test/mast/gh but if you really want to try npp it’s not gonna kill you, just may subject you to some mental or physical sides

Would 4iu be worth it to run 12 weeks?

like the others have said, fuck the orals.
Also fuck making more than 1 change, my understanding is youre already experimenting with a new compound, stick with that and dont add anything else.

Oral AAS are amazingly overrated for muscle growth, the reality is absolutely every single one of them is shit for the strict purpose of adding muscle.
Orals exposure time and strain on health markers prohibit them from being used long enough for any relative level of permanent progress.

Orals are amazing for TEMPORARY BENEFITS, meaning they are best used to break a training plateau or PL meet with the addition of their fast acting effects on strength and additional androgens, or for a specific temporary cosmetic effect for a competition.


for a casual user, taking casual cycles, orals are completely pointless.
They are fun to play with, but they are never going to be a smart choice, as its exceptionally unlikely that you will be hitting any legitimate plateau as a casual user/lifter early in your enhanced training career.

If actual long term results are your goal, you would make greater improvements with better health by simply increasing injectable dose rather than arbitrarily adding in an oral.

yea, probably gonna end up just doing the oil then upping my Gh dose as I’m already on 1.3iu for life anyway. I do have pharma Gh already prescribed to me

 

[readalot]

like the others have said, fuck the orals.
Also fuck making more than 1 change, my understanding is youre already experimenting with a new compound, stick with that and dont add anything else.

Oral AAS are amazingly overrated for muscle growth, the reality is absolutely every single one of them is shit for the strict purpose of adding muscle.
Orals exposure time and strain on health markers prohibit them from being used long enough for any relative level of permanent progress.

Orals are amazing for TEMPORARY BENEFITS, meaning they are best used to break a training plateau or PL meet with the addition of their fast acting effects on strength and additional androgens, or for a specific temporary cosmetic effect for a competition.


for a casual user, taking casual cycles, orals are completely pointless.
They are fun to play with, but they are never going to be a smart choice, as its exceptionally unlikely that you will be hitting any legitimate plateau as a casual user/lifter early in your enhanced training career.

If actual long term results are your goal, you would make greater improvements with better health by simply increasing injectable dose rather than arbitrarily adding in an oral.

10 days on 12.5 mg/day stanozolol and I had to tap out. Scared me I might get addicted.

Great points.

 

[Bigbicep]

like the others have said, fuck the orals.
Also fuck making more than 1 change, my understanding is youre already experimenting with a new compound, stick with that and dont add anything else.

Oral AAS are amazingly overrated for muscle growth, the reality is absolutely every single one of them is shit for the strict purpose of adding muscle.
Orals exposure time and strain on health markers prohibit them from being used long enough for any relative level of permanent progress.

Orals are amazing for TEMPORARY BENEFITS, meaning they are best used to break a training plateau or PL meet with the addition of their fast acting effects on strength and additional androgens, or for a specific temporary cosmetic effect for a competition.


for a casual user, taking casual cycles, orals are completely pointless.
They are fun to play with, but they are never going to be a smart choice, as its exceptionally unlikely that you will be hitting any legitimate plateau as a casual user/lifter early in your enhanced training career.

If actual long term results are your goal, you would make greater improvements with better health by simply increasing injectable dose rather than arbitrarily adding in an oral.

Well said friend

 

[Avarice911]

Hey everyone, thinking about starting anot her cycle soon and I was wondering what is everyone’s favourite oral to run? I’m going to be pairing with test/npp. Was thinking about dbol but it seems to be loaded with sides and I’m already abit sensitive to e2.

Having only tried epistane and anavar, anavar is amazing and makes me not care to try other orals. Epistane was very similar but not as potent and more sides

 

[GreenAmine]

very high molecular weight so it’s pippy

Huh? Drostanolone has a slightly higher molecular weight than methenolone. And how does MW affect PIP?

 

[Sapopeluo]

Though I agree with most of comments here… to answer your question, anavar… by far

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Huh? Drostanolone has a slightly higher molecular weight than methenolone. And how does MW affect PIP?

holy fuck, you havent been here forever! missed you!

 

[BoloYang2023]

my favorite oral for lean muscle is!!!! Protein Powder any flavor as long as its high quality protein and mix in some Cream of Rice or Cream of wheat and that shit smacks its like super insta muscle building i am sure @BigTomJ and possibly even @Mac11wildcat and the other BBers here can agree proper protein and carb ratio of some shakes post and or pre would feed the muscles immensely and grow them insanely.... OVER TIME that is.

 

[unkwnlifter]

Best orals for me Anavar is the best than Tbol anything else I don't like or they don't like me

 

[Bigbicep]

NPP made me a ravenous animal.

Also worth learning how to force feed at this point instead of relying on drugs.

What calorie count did you end your first cycle at?

I was eating around 3700 calories by the end of my cycle, 1g protein per pound 20% fats and the rest was carbs

 

[buzzingonaas]

I was eating around 3700 calories by the end of my cycle, 1g protein per pound 20% fats and the rest was carbs

that’s a pretty low amount of food man. I would focus on eating like an emotionless robot. Just getting the food down regardless of being hungry or not. And 1g protein per pound of bodyweight for an enhanced guy I would argue is far too low.

 

[Mongo966]

I would focus on eating like an emotionless robot. Just getting the food down regardless of being hungry or not.

This is my favourite part of this entire process. Shutting down emotionally and just eating like my life depends on it.

 

[Bigbicep]

that’s a pretty low amount of food man. I would focus on eating like an emotionless robot. Just getting the food down regardless of being hungry or not. And 1g protein per pound of bodyweight for an enhanced guy I would argue is far too low.

I was thinking the same thing! I wanted to do like a 40/50/10 prot carbs fat but I got told 1g was fine. I put on quite abit of fat tho my last cycle, been eating clean low carb to reset my insulin sensitivity and cut some fat for this next bulk

 

[Avarice911]

I was thinking the same thing! I wanted to do like a 40/50/10 prot carbs fat but I got told 1g was fine. I put on quite abit of fat tho my last cycle, been eating clean low carb to reset my insulin sensitivity and cut some fat for this next bulk

I’ve found that higher carb and low fat as reasonably possible works best for me. I generally avoid high fat calorie sources. Even at 4k calories a day, it easily adds up to 50-70g fat. Couldn’t imagine how high that would go if I added things like oils or nuts or high fat meats. Then again, I also have no prob eating 4k calories by accident so I never have to worry about getting “enough” calories in

 

[buzzingonaas]

At 5k calories this off-season I never went over 80g fat on regular training days. My protein from all sources added up to about 300g and I am FAR from 300lb lol

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

At 5k calories this off-season I never went over 80g fat on regular training days. My protein from all sources added up to about 300g and I am FAR from 300lb lol