When is an AI really needed ? First cycle question

[AintEvenAware]

First cycle of test e @ 450mg week. I had been taking aromasin 12.5mg on injection days only (so every 3.5 days), but upon further research and speaking to a few people they told me that an AI should only be used when high estrogen signs start to pop up. Today was my 3rd pin and I skipped the aromasin.

So I was wondering, when is an AI needed ? Should I continue taking it e4d like I was or should I stop taking it to see how my body reacts to test and only use it if I develop any signs of high estrogen ?

 

[skywalk]

First cycle of test e @ 450mg week. I had been taking aromasin 12.5mg on injection days only (so every 3.5 days), but upon further research and speaking to a few people they told me that an AI should only be used when high estrogen signs start to pop up. Today was my 3rd pin and I skipped the aromasin.

So I was wondering, when is an AI needed ? Should I continue taking it e4d like I was or should I stop taking it to see how my body reacts to test and only use it if I develop any signs of high estrogen ?

everyone is different. Don't judge yourself by what others do. The safest way is to do pre, during, and post cycle blood tests.
If during your cycle, your E2 is spiking, you will need to control it with an AI, even if there are no sides!
for me, being gyno prone was something I didnt know I was till I got my lumps. now, to my eternal regret, I have a sizeable lump under my left nip that somehow never goes away, and flares up for no reason from time to time.

moral of the story is, don't wait till you get lumps or itchy nips before you take an AI. start with your first pin, and carry on throughout your cycle, and only end when you start PCT. how much? How much test and your blood test will determine that

 

[guardianactual]

I'm not prone to gyno so I went w/o an AI & on 500mg Test I had no sex drive my E2 was insane... when it came in I ran Adex and was a pornstar then on after LMAO. Never start a cycle w/o an AI & IMO use it from the start.

 

[AintEvenAware]

How soon should I get bloodwork done on cycle to determine a correct AI dosage ? Also I want to keep E2 in the normal range correct ?

 

[youngBuilder]

Waiting until something is a problem never made sense to me.

Start with a low modest dose, get bloodwork done to test E2 and adjust accordingly.

 

[Big_paul]

everyone is different. Don't judge yourself by what others do. The safest way is to do pre, during, and post cycle blood tests.
If during your cycle, your E2 is spiking, you will need to control it with an AI, even if there are no sides!
for me, being gyno prone was something I didnt know I was till I got my lumps. now, to my eternal regret, I have a sizeable lump under my left nip that somehow never goes away, and flares up for no reason from time to time.

moral of the story is, don't wait till you get lumps or itchy nips before you take an AI. start with your first pin, and carry on throughout your cycle, and only end when you start PCT. how much? How much test and your blood test will determine that

^^^^^^^
Solid advice here.

 

[AintEvenAware]

Thanks for the advice. Do you all think I should keep the 12.5mg e4d dosing or try out eod dosing for the next two weeks leading up to bloodwork ?

 

[TheGuy85]

Why don't you do lower daily doses? I am assuming you have capsules. But I would think taking it irregularly, with its short half life might give you misleading results on blood work.

 

[TheGuy85]

I never used to use an AI but when I started using around 700mg of test prop I noticed estrogen related sides. When I started running aromasin, in particular, I noticed a huge difference. I wasn't nearly as bloated or moody. My estradiol was over 78 within 3 weeks of a test prop cycle (100mg ED). I run an AI every cycle now all that excess weight gain from water retention makes aerobic exercise difficult. I will gain about 6 lbs within 5 days. That sudden weight gain gasses me out quicker whenever I do cardio.

 

[Big_paul]

I never used to use an AI but when I started using around 700mg of test prop I noticed estrogen related sides. When I started running aromasin, in particular, I noticed a huge difference. I wasn't nearly as bloated or moody. My estradiol was over 78 within 3 weeks of a test prop cycle (100mg ED). I run an AI every cycle now all that excess weight gain from water retention makes aerobic exercise difficult. I will gain about 6 lbs within 5 days. That sudden weight gain gasses me out quicker whenever I do cardio.

Bro for some reason I am almost immune to e2 sides. But when I started running mega doses when I was younger, I started having problem. They were easily controlled with the use of an AI. Everyone is different and that means you as well.
Start with the higher dose and work your way down. I think what you are already doing, which is 12.5 on injection day will work. The Idea brother is to not crash E2.

 

[Chris Omega]

Bro for some reason I am almost immune to e2 sides. But when I started running mega doses when I was younger, I started having problem. They were easily controlled with the use of an AI. Everyone is different and that means you as well.
Start with the higher dose and work your way down. I think what you are already doing, which is 12.5 on injection day will work. The Idea brother is to not crash E2.

Are you from Greece?

 

[lucabratzi]

Are you from Greece?

Just FYI things like this can be in pm for a few reasons.

1. He may not want to talk about where he's from publicly

2. This is a year old thread u bumped.