When is it save to increase Tren E?

[bigdeltssmalldick]

Greetings fellow BBs,

Do I’m doing my first tren run now and it’s going great. This is my fifth AAS cycle and I’ve also been on TRT for around 1,5 years. Anyway, I’m running this stack currently:

- 612 mg Test E PW
- 420 mg Mast E PW
- 210 mg Tren E PW
- 50 mg Var ED (for 4 weeks)
- 0.5 mg Caber E4D
- No AI; don’t need one

I wanted to keep the test higher as I already know I’m a great responder to test. In general, I seem to tolerate most if not all AAS pretty well even at higher doses.

I want to up my tren dose but my question is: When should I do it? It’s only been 18 days since my first injection of tren e. It’s some pretty good stuff as far as I can tell. 2 1/2 weeks in and I’m already seeing amazing recomp results at only 210 mg PW. Nothing major in the side effects department besides some insomnia and sweating, both of which seem to be getting better actually now that I’ve crossed the 2 week mark… Would it be worth it to bump the dose to 300-350 immediately or wait at least till I’ve been 4-6 weeks at 210?

Reason I’m asking is because it obviosly takes time for the increased dose to take full effect and if I wait too long my cycle might already be approaching its end by the time the tren would start kicking in full force.

I don’t want to do anything too stupid either since this is my first run with tren and I really don’t know how significant the difference between 200 and 350 is. Definately wanna stay “safe” but also don’t want to leave any gains on the table!

Thanks in advance for your advice

 

[Gbro]

Less than three weeks in? The tren e is barely kicking in. Don't adjust anything yet.

 

[bigdeltssmalldick]

Less than three weeks in? The tren e is barely kicking in. Don't adjust anything yet.

Yeah I think so too. Tren has me thinking greedy thoughts lol! When would you consider adjusting tho?

 

[Gbro]

After a month. If you go full tilt and lose your shit on tren e, it takes a while to clear.

 

[bigdeltssmalldick]

Gotcha thanks

 

[rrambo1]

It took 5 weeks for Tren A to kick me in the head at 150mg/week... don't do anything yet..

 

[Plate Smacker]

I don't use an AI either, and use Prami 0.2mg E7D. (If running above 900mg Test E with Tren E at 600mg/wk)
The fact you don't need an AI, you could be fine at 400mg of Tren E.
No need to even change your caber dose.

If you have everything on hand to combat side effects, I wouldn't worry about "losing your shit" mentally. You won't end up in an Asylum on 400mg Tren E. Most people, including myself get more mental and depressive issues with Nandrolone Decanoate. Again, everyone is different, and I am not telling you to do this. Just giving perspective.

I have bros that refused to pin frequently, so Tren A was a nope. I started them on 400mg Tren E no problem.

Honestly, your not really going to "feel" 200mg of Tren E "kick in". Everyone is different, but I know alot who run it, and 200mg is low compared to your current setup. I am not saying pointless, just low.
200mg Tren E is on paper, using blood level calculator, almost comparable to 20mg ED Tren A. 400mg Tren E, once at peak saturation, is comparable to 40mg Tren A ED.

Post in thread 'Why do I tolerate Tren E Better than Tren A?' Why do I tolerate Tren E Better than Tren A?

 

[bigdeltssmalldick]

It took 5 weeks for Tren A to kick me in the head at 150mg/week... don't do anything yet..

Shiitt! Will definately be patient

 

[Gixjon22]

If youre pinning e4d by the 5th shot you should be maxed out on your level or there about. Ive dabbled with so many doses of tren i feel i can give a cent or two on the subject. From 150mg to 1400mg. If you really want to push it you need to understand esters a bit. And understand that. Imho at least ace and e arent 1:1. Could be cool on 200 mg e and lose your shit on 150mg ace. Anyways.
Once youre on shot 6 or week 5 or so pin 400mg where youd normally pin 100. Now this is crude as fuck math and people can correct me if im wrong. But the release rate of e is close to 10%/ day. I think the exact is like 9.3 or soemthing not sure. So pin 100 and in a day 90 is left the next day 81 etc etc. very crude and not exact but for my purposes it helped me undwrstand. So if you pin 400 its adding 40mg/day to what was being released. Of your 200/week maybe 140 or so released inro your blood. So ad the 280 to the 140 and youll be at 420/week.
Or. Get ahold of some ace. After youve past the 4-6 week wall everyone talks about. Add in 20mg eod. That way you have your basline of 200 that you know youre good at and if its too much you can dirxh it but still be able to stay on cycle but then youll know to just run 200 mg. My two cents man. In wrapping up my blast. Doing too much but i dig it. 20 days left.

 

[bigdeltssmalldick]

If youre pinning e4d by the 5th shot you should be maxed out on your level or there about. Ive dabbled with so many doses of tren i feel i can give a cent or two on the subject. From 150mg to 1400mg. If you really want to push it you need to understand esters a bit. And understand that. Imho at least ace and e arent 1:1. Could be cool on 200 mg e and lose your shit on 150mg ace. Anyways.
Once youre on shot 6 or week 5 or so pin 400mg where youd normally pin 100. Now this is crude as fuck math and people can correct me if im wrong. But the release rate of e is close to 10%/ day. I think the exact is like 9.3 or soemthing not sure. So pin 100 and in a day 90 is left the next day 81 etc etc. very crude and not exact but for my purposes it helped me undwrstand. So if you pin 400 its adding 40mg/day to what was being released. Of your 200/week maybe 140 or so released inro your blood. So ad the 280 to the 140 and youll be at 420/week.
Or. Get ahold of some ace. After youve past the 4-6 week wall everyone talks about. Add in 20mg eod. That way you have your basline of 200 that you know youre good at and if its too much you can dirxh it but still be able to stay on cycle but then youll know to just run 200 mg. My two cents man. In wrapping up my blast. Doing too much but i dig it. 20 days left.

Awesome man. Thanks so much for the input. I’ve done the same with test, using e and p to figure out my sweet spot on cycle which I now know is around 600-800 mg per week. Using a short acting ester to help figure this out is a good idea. Frontloading tren e after about a month like you described sounds interesting too, if you have the “balls” to do it lol. Whishing you a great remainder of your cycle!