When should I increase Testosterone dose

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Ignore lower extremities. it is why u wait until 17-18 But look at upper body If you were to have very high testosterone for months and months and even years this would influence clavicle bone growth, wrist growth and overall frame growth if u maintain healthy estrogen levels because these things and influenced by androgens. that is why high test males usually have massive natural frames because these things are influenced by high androgens. by me increasing my T by 3x during puberty I am increasing my frame growth which means I will look more aesthetic and increase my natural frame strength and capacity

even if we look at Teenager roiders like that bignattydaddy autist kid

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look at what injecting T for even a little bit did to his frame it tripled in size because huge amounts of androgens. even his jaw had growth and facial bones. teenagers usually produce lots of test and now imagine what roiding does on top of that u will get insane frame growth which is what i am seeing now my shoulders are getting wider and bigger and my face is getting way more masculinized

I may be ushering in a new ascension plan for guys with average frames that want to become bigger. take the risk and get huge frame if u inject during puberty if u wait ur bones are already closed u will only get muscle gain

i am injecting for this reason to get huge herecules frame and even better bones in face. i will look insane and slay 600 girls by age 24 like zyzz
Ha.

Being big, ugly, and dumb from frying yourself with androgens won't get you laid.

If you're a pathetic beta with no game, adding muscle will just make you into a pathetic beta with no game and a narcissism complex
 
Okay this is a troll but I’ll bite.

First of all the frame is not going to change much from steroids ask me how I know. I started for the same reason. Wanna know what I got? A bunch of acne scars and I can’t really take my shirt off.

Look at pro bodybuilders after retirement. No huge frame. This shit is determined by genetics .

Yes a bit changed for me but it wasn’t worth the thinner hair massive skin pores scars oily skin blah blah blah body hair growth blah blah blah stop while you’re ahead or end up like me

Ima give u the best advice. Don’t do it. If u do do it, keep doses moderate and stay away from 19nors and anything except test and maybe an oral.
Not even NPP? What do you feel the big danger is with NPP?
 
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U wait until 25 cuz some 50 yr old forum bloat lord told u 2? lets just ignore the fact that u recover faster at 18 then u do when ur older and there are also way more benefits keep crying for me
Funny thing is most of us are bigger and leaner than you will ever be. Simply because we understand this shit better than you. Hey. I'm only 27 and look better than every juicy 18 yr old punk in my gym.
 
Funny thing is most of us are bigger and leaner than you will ever be. Simply because we understand this shit better than you. Hey. I'm only 27 and look better than every juicy 18 yr old punk in my gym.
well idk how u look like so yeah maybe i will never look like you. i will look better than i did before

27 and u look better than 18yo juicers

wow dude maybe its because u are probably juicing for 3+ years now and natty lifting for idk how many years besides that

like being a brown belt BJJ and bragging u can beat a blue belt good job grown man roider better than teenage newbie roider XD i would hope so
 
They say this because you’re not done developing
ik Sir but HPTA is a joke

that is why guys start steroids in the first place to get their dream physique. i will never be able to reach it without steroids so it is what it is better start now
 
ik Sir but HPTA is a joke

that is why guys start steroids in the first place to get their dream physique. i will never be able to reach it without steroids so it is what it is better start now
Again a reason I started but just be as safe as u can if u do

Don’t jump into shit without research
 
I can't even laugh at this thread because you're either a retarded teen hurting himself or a really bad troll. Fucking christ
why do u think guys roid in the first place

maybe because they realize their natty testosterone are a joke and that the environment is full of endocrine disruptors that lowers it even further

brb just missed 3 hours of sleep now my T for the day is down 10%

its the afternoon now my T is grandpa tier better sleep 1/2 of the day so it can reach decent levels for 3 hours before it crashes again

just drank a beer now my T is down the drain

lol man plz think
 
I'm not sure about endocrine issues. He might be shooting blanks.. but

I think a case could be made that a young person is more resilient, and less likely to develop high blood pressure and some other side effects that an older person would experience? When you are younger, your body can take more abuse and bounce back, VS when you are in your 40's.

And... do 18-21 year olds ever listen to anyone? Might be wasting your breath.
More ressielent yea…

Also still developing specifically their brain chemistry. When I look back from even 2 years ago when I was 22 I was so far behind on thinking like an actual adult and I went through puberty at 13-14 years old.

My freshmen year of highschool I had a fucking beard. Physically I developed. Mentally not even close. Stunting growth is one thing, messing with entire systems of your brain, essentially turning it off parts of it off, in early developmental phases is ridiculous. Steroids do way more than just build muscle. Undeveloped And over stimulated neuro pathways in a developing mind is something I never even considered until recently.

Quit with this bullshit gay tik tok facial structure bullshit. The fact you said you want to develope your face more is fucking ridiculous and goes to show you’re in highschool still.

Very rare someone in your position listens. But can’t go on without at least chiming in. But I’m sure as hell glad I did. I joined when I was 18 and these guys here saved my ass a lot of trouble. They stopped me from pinning for 2 years. So thankful I waited.
 
why do u think guys roid in the first place

maybe because they realize their natty testosterone are a joke and that the environment is full of endocrine disruptors that lowers it even further

brb just missed 3 hours of sleep now my T for the day is down 10%

its the afternoon now my T is grandpa tier better sleep 1/2 of the day so it can reach decent levels for 3 hours before it crashes again

just drank a beer now my T is down the drain

lol man plz think
Are you retarded? I was 230 my junior year of highschool and pretty shredded with dick veins in my arms. 1000% natty.

I slept 5 hours a night. Woke up at 430 to go to workouts. Went to school until 3, practiced then went home and played Xbox until 10 pm and passed out all while eating jars of peanutbutter and sandwhiches all day. After the games every week you know what I’d do? Get hammered and Finger girls on front lawns or in some bathroom at a party.

What is this bullshit you’re posting I’m laughing but I’m also pissed. it’s so retarded I cannot comprehend it.

You have no idea how shit works. You have no idea how to eat or train if you need steroids at that age. Life is too easy when you’re that age. All you need to do is wake up and breathe to get through the day.
 
So been blasting test since you were 17, and tagging millard in your first new post. I can see how your future on here will end.
No way....I see bright things. I mean, he's....we'll, his judgment is...uh...

....Man it was cold today

Edit: oh, I got it, he got more traffic on his first post since probably the internet started.
People love a train wreck
 
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