Where should I get T4??

Rebel96

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About to run HGH for 6-8months and I am gonna take some t4 along with it. Where do you guys get your t3 and t4 from online that's cheap and reliable? Some of these websites out of China and India seem sketch to me...

Also I am a smaller guy so I was wondering how much t4 I should take daily and if I should titrate up?

I'm 5'8 165

Sorry if this has already been discussed On here or that I'm openly asking for source

Thanks so much for any responses, or feel free to pm me
 
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How about posting up an intro in the new member's thread for starters. Then give us a little more background info like age, goals, previous cycles, etc. Any experience using gh, t3, or t4? Why do u think u need t4 or t3?
 
How about posting up an intro in the new member's thread for starters. Then give us a little more background info like age, goals, previous cycles, etc. Any experience using gh, t3, or t4? Why do u think u need t4 or t3?

Yeah I probably should have headed over there in first place sorry haha... I'm just doing all this on my phone so navigating is a bitch.

I'm only 21 turn 22 in jan... so I know I shouldn't really be doing hgh yet but im gonna keep the dose lower. I'm hoping it'll help me recover from my injury, I had a torn labrum with a lot of cartilage damage few years back and still bothers the fuck outa me.

I think I have grown like an inch the past two years so if I somehow got another inch or 2 that would be tight lol

I have never ran anything b4 so I'm a noob. I plan on gaining a little bit of mass but pretty much working out with low reps for strength for about 6 months with the hgh, and then running a cycle of test with it towards the end maybe around 7 or 8 months and changing up to a bodybuilding type of routine. I'd like to be a solid 185 or 190.

I just thought I needed t4 because of so many posts on here I've seen saying if you don't take t4 with your hgh it's a waste. I'm just nervous about it because it's messing with your thyroid and I've read some nasty side effects on it. Anybody have any advice from your experience with t4? And about how much I should take? What time of day? Etc...

Thanks guys
 
Yeah I probably should have headed over there in first place sorry haha... I'm just doing all this on my phone so navigating is a bitch.

I'm only 21 turn 22 in jan... so I know I shouldn't really be doing hgh yet but im gonna keep the dose lower. I'm hoping it'll help me recover from my injury, I had a torn labrum with a lot of cartilage damage few years back and still bothers the fuck outa me.

I think I have grown like an inch the past two years so if I somehow got another inch or 2 that would be tight lol

I have never ran anything b4 so I'm a noob. I plan on gaining a little bit of mass but pretty much working out with low reps for strength for about 6 months with the hgh, and then running a cycle of test with it towards the end maybe around 7 or 8 months and changing up to a bodybuilding type of routine. I'd like to be a solid 185 or 190.

I just thought I needed t4 because of so many posts on here I've seen saying if you don't take t4 with your hgh it's a waste. I'm just nervous about it because it's messing with your thyroid and I've read some nasty side effects on it. Anybody have any advice from your experience with t4? And about how much I should take? What time of day? Etc...

Thanks guys

Do you know the difference between t4 and t3?

It really sounds like you need to do a TON more research and you need to put any actions you plan on doing with hgh and thryroid manipulation on hold brother.
 
Do you know the difference between t4 and t3?

I think I'm on the right track, if you take t4 your body converts some of it into t3. T3 is mostly used for bodybuilders precomp for cutting. But the conversion of t4 to t3 is beneficial if you are taking hgh so it is better to take t4.

I just am not sure with me being a bit of a smaller guy if I should take 75 mcg instead of 100 mcg... or titrate up to even higher to like 200 mcg and just eat extra carbs. Or does it scale depending on IU of hgh I'm taking?

What could I expect from taking 100 vs 200, hot flashes? Increased heartbeat? These are possible sides but I'd like to hear how it made some of you guys feel bc for a lot of medications less than 5% of ppl get the awful sides that are listed.

Sorry for the novel and ty for advice I def am gonna read up as much as I can before doing anything.
 
About to run HGH for 6-8months and I am gonna take some t4 along with it. Where do you guys get your t3 and t4 from online that's cheap and reliable? Some of these websites out of China and India seem sketch to me...

Also I am a smaller guy so I was wondering how much t4 I should take daily and if I should titrate up?

I'm 5'8 165

Sorry if this has already been discussed On here or that I'm openly asking for source

Thanks so much for any responses, or feel free to pm me
You should not be taking either. You weight 165lbs! Sell the dam growth hormone, buy food, learn to train and eat right before you use PEDS
 
You should not be taking either. You weight 165lbs! Sell the dam growth hormone, buy food, learn to train and eat right before you use PEDS

Just fish said it best here. [emoji121]️

I understand how you feel and want to take a shortcut to get bigger faster, but this isn't the way my man.

You are young and still have a long time to grow... what is important to you now.. won't be important to you in 10 years.

Hgh can / will cause organ growth including the heart.... ( this leads to complications)

T3/t4 : messing with this at such a young age I don't see the benefits to.

Have you considered the consequences of messing up your thyroid? Having to stay on medication for the rest of your life? Maybe 60+ years.... on top of that dealing with side effects this entire 60 years?

Not to mention, oh let's say you enlarge your heart or organs... is the risk really worth it at such a young age?

You have plenty of testosterone flowing through your body, you just have to utilize it properly with more food... lots more food... if you can't or don't have an appetite then cheat, get creative with high calorie drinks in a blender with good clean food. ( it's what I do)
 
Regardless of how many people tell u ur too young, I have a feeling ur going to do it anyway. I don't condone it but I'd rather u do it as safely as possible. At ur age ur growth plates are more than likely sealed, so it's very doubtful u will experience any sort of growth in height from gh. Also u don't need the t3 or t4. GH does cause more conversion of t4 to t3 but u need bloodwork to see if there is a deficiency. So please take everyone's advice n hold off on the AAS/GH for a few more years. Take the time to build a solid foundation through food, diet, n workouts. Doing it this way will enable u to really tap into the benefits of AAS n GH, when the time comes. Learning what works n what doesn't when it comes to food, diet, n workouts will help u tremendously.
 
About to run HGH for 6-8months and I am gonna take some t4 along with it. Where do you guys get your t3 and t4 from online that's cheap and reliable? Some of these websites out of China and India seem sketch to me...

Also I am a smaller guy so I was wondering how much t4 I should take daily and if I should titrate up?

I'm 5'8 165

Sorry if this has already been discussed On here or that I'm openly asking for source

Thanks so much for any responses, or feel free to pm me
Any reputable online pharmacy will do for T4.
T3 may be harder to get.
Stay away from steroid sources for T4/T3, since 99% of them sell counterfeits.
They are already risking prison/extradition by selling controlled substances (steroids) so they don't give a shit about selling counterfeits.

I think I'm on the right track, if you take t4 your body converts some of it into t3. T3 is mostly used for bodybuilders precomp for cutting. But the conversion of t4 to t3 is beneficial if you are taking hgh so it is better to take t4.

I just am not sure with me being a bit of a smaller guy if I should take 75 mcg instead of 100 mcg... or titrate up to even higher to like 200 mcg and just eat extra carbs. Or does it scale depending on IU of hgh I'm taking?

What could I expect from taking 100 vs 200, hot flashes? Increased heartbeat? These are possible sides but I'd like to hear how it made some of you guys feel bc for a lot of medications less than 5% of ppl get the awful sides that are listed.

Sorry for the novel and ty for advice I def am gonna read up as much as I can before doing anything.
That's just a bs THEORY
not backed by any studies.

OTOH GH can reduce/prevent muscle wasting by T3 during cutting cycles.
 
Rebel, "assuming" at this age HGH can go anything about growth in terms of "inch or two", do you consider the possibility to end up with a "Andre the Giant" jaw as well?

This is worst than Russian roulette - there is only one bullet in the chamber...
 
You guys really think it's that much of a risk??? I know about the organ growth but I got the impression that was only from higher doses like 10iu I would probably only go up to 4 max 5 ED.

The main reason I even got on the idea of hgh is because of a few injuries I have and I thought it could really help with them. I had a torn labrum a few years back and after surgery it still bothers me bc of cartilage damage. And I also have an issue with my right hand. Not eager to jump into another surgery bc the results of the first one weren't really that great.

Gaining mass and height would be some pretty cool perks tho.

I get it though it's never that simple, thanks for the advice.

I've heard good things about adeqoun for joint issues, I'll try and look at some more options b4 I jump into into something drastic.
 
You guys really think it's that much of a risk??? I know about the organ growth but I got the impression that was only from higher doses like 10iu I would probably only go up to 4 max 5 ED.

The main reason I even got on the idea of hgh is because of a few injuries I have and I thought it could really help with them. I had a torn labrum a few years back and after surgery it still bothers me bc of cartilage damage. And I also have an issue with my right hand. Not eager to jump into another surgery bc the results of the first one weren't really that great.

Gaining mass and height would be some pretty cool perks tho.

I get it though it's never that simple, thanks for the advice.

I've heard good things about adeqoun for joint issues, I'll try and look at some more options b4 I jump into into something drastic.

The gh alone is not that dangerous when u hit the right age. Currently if ur HEALTHY ur body is producing an enormous amount of test n natural gh pulses, taking it will fuck that up especially if u start messing with thyroid meds. These compounds can have drastic n ever lasting effects.

There's TB500 that is supposed to have some healing properties...might be worth looking into. However I don't know what negative side effects (if any) it has. One thing I have to applaud u on is that u came n asked before jumping with both feet into this endeavor. Most times it's the other way around, where the person has already done permanent damage n r coming here looking for help.

Take some time build a solid core foundation, learn the proper eating n exercise regiments so when ur ready to start getting into this lifestyle u can really get the most out of it. In the mean time stay here n learn. Do ur research n develop a plan. Make some friends here...Just about everyone here will be happy to help u if u do this the right way.
 
If you have injuries than the best medicine for you would be to strengthen the muscles supporting what you have injured by doing rep work. Save the strength training for down the road when you no longer feel your injuries. The reason I started working out, besides smashing higher quality tail, was due to a back injury from shoveling snow when I was 20. My back would get thrown out randomly for years. I started squatting and doing good mornings twice a week and I never had another pain besides being sore from a killer workout.

Hold off on the PEDs young bro. I didn’t use them until 10 years in. This will be parroted to the point that you will change your handle and become 30 all of the sudden.
 
Let me give you "elderly man" prospective.

At you age (21 1/2) your physical development as male have (almost) completed i.e. early adult transition (17–22). You will not grow taller, your wiener (sorry to break this to you) will not get any bigger, you are done from pure body's natural hormonal development. You have entered the adult world (22–28). Your hormones are at optimal levels to complete nature' Primary Objective (reciprocate) and live the life to its fullest.

At this stage you can manipulate your physical appearance, however. This is based on concuss choice - either stage yourself for "fat fuck" for the rest of your life, or "lean mean machine" without having to resort to "PED" (for now).

I am not going to touch on "healing" you a are seeking, I am not a Doctor or Shaman. I am, however, someone who went through heaven and hell and can speak from personal experience.

It does not matter how tall are you. With proper diet and exercise (and hard work) you can achieve this WOW look many here are seeking (and achieved already).

As @Jeffg353 said, why risk wrecking your hormones right now? You are years away from the point you might consider PED. If as myself you don't have "True bodybuilding aspirations" i.e. competing, you could achieve good looks just by eating clean, right, and exercise. All this by the way will set the right conditions where you can enjoy your mid-life and even later.

If however, in your late 20, early 30 you want to enter competitive world, then would be the right time to seek something to give you "plain field" because "the other guys doing it too"...

And there is the "other" factor... financials. You think you have the will to say "Well, I've spent XXX on HGH and don't see the gains I was hoping to have, that's it - I am done"? Most likely you will reach out for the next kit... Might be now... I hope...

Do blood work, simple as that. Come back here and lets talk. Ironically, a lady friend was telling my wife her husband lost any interest in bed, wife told her about privatemdlabs, she made him do some tests and... now he is under treatment for an awful condition, luckily discovered in very early stage. I am not saying you have issue, but many here can give you better advice once the numbers are in.
 
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