Which is the best anti-e?

[Stez]

Ok, First of all let's say Indolplex with DIM is a great one because it's natural, and increases good estros whilst decreasing bad estros etc.

My question is though, should it be used in combination with another anti-e in HRT?

I've read that study on a-dex which states it increases test levels and LH and FSH, but would not all anti-e's do this via negative feedback?

So, for HRT, if DIM is not effective enough, which would be the most ideal anti-e to use, taking into consideration rise of Test/LH/FSH, other side effects etc:

arimidex
nolva
aromasin
letrozole/femara
clomid?

Personally I've tried aromasin and I didn't like the sides at all, so I'm scratching that one off the list.

I'm going on Indolplex tomorro and if it's not effective enough, is it better to boost the dose or add in a-dex or somethign else?

thanks.

 

[pmgamer18]

When I was first tested for high E2 I was very high and tryed different kinds of DIM nothing worked. My Dr. tryed Evista and it did nothing I printed out this link for him.
http://www.medibolics.com/ArimidexBoostsTestosterone.htm
And we tryed Arimidex the first 4 weeks I was doing 1/2 of a one mg. pill ever other day in 4 weeks nothing came down. So for the next 4 weeks I did 1/2 a one mg. pill everyday and in 4 weeks my levels came down from 98 to 24. I tryed to keep my levels down using arimidex but it is to strong I was going to low when I stopped using it I was doing 1/4 of a one mg. pill every 5 days and going to low. I had talked to David Z to find out what kind of DIM he was using to keep his E2 down and got what he was using. Indolplex/DIM
http://www.ritecare.com/prodsheets/PHY-15336.html
During this time I was on a lot of T meds doing 10 grams of Testim and getting a 200 mg. shot every other week this was driving my E2 nuts. So yes I was as per my Dr. doing one Indolplex/DIM 120 mg. a day and taking arimidex as needed. Somedays I was taking .5 mg. of Arimidex and the Indolpolex/DIM. It worked dam good. I am now keeping my E2 under control using 1/4 of a Indolplex/DIM doing 150 mg. of Depo T shots everyweek and adding Hcg 500IU's 3x's a week.
Phil

 

[Stez]

What about the study on Arimidex which said although it raised Test/lh/fsh, it lowered IGF-1 by quite a substantial amount. That can't be good...?

 

[pmgamer18]

What about the study on Arimidex which said although it raised Test/lh/fsh, it lowered IGF-1 by quite a substantial amount. That can't be good...?

Read it again I don't see this a cut & paste.

We have shown that testosterone (T) deficiency per se is associated with marked catabolic effects on protein, calcium metabolism, and body composition in men independent of changes in GH or insulin-like growth factor I production. It is not clear,,however, whether estrogens have a major role in whole body anabolism in males.

However, E2 concentrations decreased 48% (P = 0.006), with
no significant change in mean and peak GH concentrations, but with an 18% decrease in plasma insulin-like growth factor I concentrations.

I don't call 18% significant. I would give that up anytime to keep from having high E2.

And what I am doing now using Indolplex/DIM it is not a problem.
http://www.lef.org/whatshot/2003_05.html#i3cb
Phil