which test has the least water retention

[calebx23]

which test would best to use w/out having a lot of water retention.....

 

[PHit41]

which test would best to use w/out having a lot of water retention.....

i wasnt aware there is more than one kind of test...


now i am assuming you are talking about prop vs enan/cyp etc. well in that case test is test meaning that the difference is in the ester attached to the parent hormone testosterone. Each ester is composed of different length of carbon atoms. take test suspension which has no ester attached that is why it is found in an aqeuas solution (very fast acting). test propionate has 2 or 3 carbons attached as an ester to the parent hormone testosterone (allows for ED or EOD at most injects). test enanthate has 7 i think (allows for bi weekly). test cyp has 9 i think (weekly). Then you can get even high such as an ester attached to boldenone undecylenate which is like 12.

in laymens terms there is no difference. You will gain the same amount of water on test prop as you will on test enan. Except that you will notice it sooner with prop. yet you can control prop easier, meaning that you can gain the water weight fast but you can lose it just as fast.

hope this brings a little understanding

PHit

 

[Animalhouse]

Phit thats very interesting and on paper the different tests shouldnt behave differently but most find they do which is why prop is used so often for shows, often winstrol and other hardeners are used with it which accounts for some of the reputation but not always and I got no bloat problems at all from using prop. Also the one time I used Andriol a while back as my mate had some spare so I added it in to the rest of the cycle I got bloated from just 10 of them a day - not much test mate but it behaves differently. Ive read the threads since I joined and there seems some smart guys here so Id like to get a discussion going on this

 

[calebx23]

reason being, im trying to put together a cycle which includes eq w.out gaining alot of water weight......maybe i should just go w/tren and eq........but never have used before, and i hear the tren isn't one u should go on for ur first time.....

 

[PHit41]

reason being, im trying to put together a cycle which includes eq w.out gaining alot of water weight......maybe i should just go w/tren and eq........but never have used before, and i hear the tren isn't one u should go on for ur first time.....

bro if you are worried about water weight throw in some aramidex at say 0.5 mg/day which will more than take care of any problem. You could even get some proviron which will make a difference also. I would not go with tren and eq only. tren is very suppresive and you need test to counter act that action so that you can have sex while on or even if you arent fortunate to find a female to have sex atleast get a boner to beat it.

If you are worried about water yet you want a cycle go like this

test enan 500mg/wk 1-10
eq 400mg/wk 1-10 (optional)
a-dex 1-10

optional:
requires no worries about water

dbol 30mg/day 1-5

proper PCT

I think if you have a great diet training and sleep schedule and you throw this in the mix and do it right you will make some great gains

good luck

PHit

 

[fegs]

I wouldn't

use tren. You can go with Cyp and eq. Just be aware that you might or will have some water retention, just part of the package. I have heard of guys using Nolva to combat some of the water issue while using test... Keep drinking water through the cycle and maintain a fair amount of cardio as well (of course eating clean is a given)

reason being, im trying to put together a cycle which includes eq w.out gaining alot of water weight......maybe i should just go w/tren and eq........but never have used before, and i hear the tren isn't one u should go on for ur first time.....

 

[PHit41]

Phit thats very interesting and on paper the different tests shouldnt behave differently but most find they do which is why prop is used so often for shows, often winstrol and other hardeners are used with it which accounts for some of the reputation but not always and I got no bloat problems at all from using prop. Also the one time I used Andriol a while back as my mate had some spare so I added it in to the rest of the cycle I got bloated from just 10 of them a day - not much test mate but it behaves differently. Ive read the threads since I joined and there seems some smart guys here so Id like to get a discussion going on this

bro you have some great points...

most do associate using prop with gutting cycles which involve substances such as winny that block the aromatizing effects of test

Phit

 

[Animalhouse]

Yes I think thats alot of the reason for props reputation though guys seem to notice less water before they add or if they dont at all winny its a tricky one! I havent used a-dex though alot of the guys rate it and proviron, right now Im reading as much as I can and talking to as many people as I can to get things nailed down for next years show!

 

[quedog123]

prop stays in blood less time = less levels of estrogen build up since there is less test loading up in your system wich= less water retention IMO

and also is my opinion based on usage of all the tests and prop i find prop to be best as far as water a bloating