Deca only with growth hormone

[Raylee3500]

So I previously ran deca solo at 1500mg a week and went up to 1900mg and it was the best I ever felt and the strength gains were insaine with no fluid retention. I’ve been doing 2100mg of test prop with 8iu of gh and my hair has been falling out like crazy(I’m 21 currently) so for that reason I might switch to deca solo again but i like gh and can afford it but someone(dr tod lee) told me taking gh with deca solo will do nothing at all because of dht or something , is this true

 

[wp_375]

Yeah no.

Todd Lee is a retard and GH works with Deca just fine. Estrogen affects IGF-1 but at a gram plus of Deca you should have enough estrogen in your body to do the needful.

 

[BigDadd7]

Deca with no fluid retention. Lmao

 

[xrayphoton13]

Todd Lee is a retard and thinks serum igf levels mean everything but they don't tell you what's going on at the tissue level. He even said himself that the most he ever grew was on deca only with GH. The dumbass is letting a lab test that he doesn't understand prevent him from growing

 

[wp_375]

Deca with no fluid retention. Lmao

Deca with no Test is drier than Test only is...the Deca makes you retain water BS comes from running it in conjunction with Test.

 

[BigDadd7]

Deca with no Test is drier than Test only is...the Deca makes you retain water BS comes from running it in conjunction with Test.

I ran a deca only cycle 25 or 30 years ago and it was bloat city. Never again.

 

[AlexDavis43]

The bro's & knuckle draggers here rarely agree on anything, but pretty much everyone agrees (myself included) that Todd Lee is a retard

He's a content creator

Rule of thumb: entertainment not education

I listen to a lot of content creators in this space because I like listening to people talk about bodybuilding and gear, but I'd never make a real decision based on anything they say

 

[Ateam2023]

I Cannot stand Todd Lee , complete nonsense

 

[Raylee3500]

Todd Lee is a retard and thinks serum igf levels mean everything but they don't tell you what's going on at the tissue level. He even said himself that the most he ever grew was on deca only with GH. The dumbass is letting a lab test that he doesn't understand prevent him from growing

Yeah honestly I feel like tod lee is “too smart” for his own good , he’s like the science based training guys but the steroid version, following study’s instead of real life results, mostly his refusal to eat more than a 200 calorie surplus because he thinks that’s the most u can use for muscle growth, but with roids that’s obviously not the case

 

[wells14]

I feel like tod lee is “too smart”

No he's just a midwit that thinks he's a genius

 

[explodingHeart]

I'd also like to add that Todd Lee is a fucking moron.

 

[cmK9s33]

So I previously ran deca solo at 1500mg a week and went up to 1900mg and it was the best I ever felt and the strength gains were insaine with no fluid retention. I’ve been doing 2100mg of test prop with 8iu of gh and my hair has been falling out like crazy(I’m 21 currently) so for that reason I might switch to deca solo again but i like gh and can afford it but someone(dr tod lee) told me taking gh with deca solo will do nothing at all because of dht or something , is this true

How did your noodle work on all deca and zero test?

As an aside: I watched a podcast with Todd Lee and (at least in that instance) he never substantiated his ideas. Only bitched and complained about medicine in general and his detractors with nothing but strawman arguments. He might otherwise be intelligent, but the little bit I’ve seen of him is not promising.

 

[ve79]

So I previously ran deca solo at 1500mg a week and went up to 1900mg and it was the best I ever felt and the strength gains were insaine with no fluid retention. I’ve been doing 2100mg of test prop with 8iu of gh and my hair has been falling out like crazy(I’m 21 currently) so for that reason I might switch to deca solo again but i like gh and can afford it but someone(dr tod lee) told me taking gh with deca solo will do nothing at all because of dht or something , is this true

You should always run test

 

[ve79]

So I previously ran deca solo at 1500mg a week and went up to 1900mg and it was the best I ever felt and the strength gains were insaine with no fluid retention. I’ve been doing 2100mg of test prop with 8iu of gh and my hair has been falling out like crazy(I’m 21 currently) so for that reason I might switch to deca solo again but i like gh and can afford it but someone(dr tod lee) told me taking gh with deca solo will do nothing at all because of dht or something , is this true

Why did you choose to run that much Deca? Deca is extremely anabolic and if not ran with a little test you can get ED.

 

[Raylee3500]

Why did you choose to run that much Deca? Deca is extremely anabolic and if not ran with a little test you can get ED.

Deca

Why did you choose to run that much Deca? Deca is extremely anabolic and if not ran with a little test you can get ED.

Deca without test is has no side effects it feels like a pure anabolic

 

[Raylee3500]

You should always run test

Deca imo should

How did your noodle work on all deca and zero test?

As an aside: I watched a podcast with Todd Lee and (at least in that instance) he never substantiated his ideas. Only bitched and complained about medicine in general and his detractors with nothing but strawman arguments. He might otherwise be intelligent, but the little bit I’ve seen of him is not promising.

deca only causes ED when combined with test , i actually hate test with deca but my favorite cycle has been test and gh only or deca only

 

[IndividualMan]

He might otherwise be intelligent,

he very well might not be.

 

[cmK9s33]

he very well might not be.

Haha. Well, the little bit I've seen from him certainly didn't inspire confidence.

 

[ve79]

Deca imo should

deca only causes ED when combined with test , i actually hate test with deca but my favorite cycle has been test and gh only or deca only

Doesn't make a lot of sense but if it works for you than have at it

 

[Raylee3500]

Doesn't make a lot of sense but if it works for you than have at it

Deca increases aroatisation . So it essentially exacerbates the estrogen from test ,like 1+1=3 . Deca by itself is not very estrogenic it converts to 1/5 the estrogen testosterone does