Which would you prefer?

Whether it’s diet or drugs, everything does effect every person so different that it seems the best way to find out is by experiencing it personally. I guess that’s why I made my avi a scientist lol.

What works for one person may kill another... what kinda freaks are we lol

No doubt.

I did not mean to imply you should not try it. Just saying I wish I had the shorter ester when I did it.

If you get both then you can kick it with the short ester and use the long ester as well.

This way nothing goes to waste and if it does not work well in your body you can safely abort quickly.

Best if luck, I definately know a lot of people love it.
 
For a summer cut:

1-12 Test E: 350mg/wk
1-12 Mast E: 600mg/wk
1-8 Tren A: 350mg/wk

I'd run tren/test at a 2:1 ratio about. I'd also favor it wks 4-12 rather than 1-8 assuming you want to run it that long. OR just run it the duration of the cycle

Tren will make you a fuck ton stronger even on a massive calorie defecit so it's easy to cut on
 
The 1st option. Even cut the test down some and let the tren work the magic along side with the mast.

You hear a lot of horror stories from tren but honestly I believe most people that freak out were nut cases to begin with. Last cycle was test p 210mg/wk and tren a 500mg/wk a played with the numbers a little bit throughout cycle. An equal test/tren ratio definitely kept me “fuller” but a bit more bloated. The sweet spot for me was the ending numbers I just told you. Continued strength increases, vascularity, minimal bloat whatsoever.. and was consuming roughly 3000-3400 cals a day (clean calories) and still getting leaner by the week.

Some nights sweats & would have a pretty shitty night here and there with insomnia. Other than that cardio might have suffered a bit. Nothing major. All in all it was great for the most part once I found the balance in mg/wk. Also, I have no experience running DHB so I can’t speak on option two. But my experience cutting with tren was good.
 
The 1st option. Even cut the test down some and let the tren work the magic along side with the mast.

You hear a lot of horror stories from tren but honestly I believe most people that freak out were nut cases to begin with. Last cycle was test p 210mg/wk and tren a 500mg/wk a played with the numbers a little bit throughout cycle. An equal test/tren ratio definitely kept me “fuller” but a bit more bloated. The sweet spot for me was the ending numbers I just told you. Continued strength increases, vascularity, minimal bloat whatsoever.. and was consuming roughly 3000-3400 cals a day (clean calories) and still getting leaner by the week.

Some nights sweats & would have a pretty shitty night here and there with insomnia. Other than that cardio might have suffered a bit. Nothing major. All in all it was great for the most part once I found the balance in mg/wk. Also, I have no experience running DHB so I can’t speak on option two. But my experience cutting with tren was good.

Ya I’m pretty easy going. Deal more with depression than anger. But I think I’ll probably go with the Tren that run to see how it effects me. I’ll be bulking pretty good this blast and I think it’ll really etch things up for the summer.
 
Why not to run both ?
500mg dhb
300mg tren
200mg test
And finish with some var and mast p

Low dosages and very effective

I’ve heard a lot of good with stacking the two so it’s something I’ve thought about. I’ll probably plan on brewing both just in case:p
 
Option 1!

Tren durarion is fine for your first go (I prefer my cycles at 16 weeks and lower doses but whatever works) and USE ACETATE If you’ve never danced with that tren bitch before. id also probably replace mast unless you’re already pretty lean but that’s nitpicking. The shorter esters on all drugs will also be conducive to the look you’re after. Just pin em all EOD or ED if you’re in to that.
 
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