Why are you against EO?

The biggest steroid producer in the world uses it. Business seems fine for them.

I sure some get bad reactions but that is when the concentration is high. When used at a lower amount (~5%) it significantly reduces pip. EO is used for higher concentration brews. Higher concentrations will have more pip regardless, but people think it’s the EO that’s giving them the PIP.
 
The biggest steroid producer in the world uses it. Business seems fine for them.

I sure some get bad reactions but that is when the concentration is high. When used at a lower amount (~5%) it significantly reduces pip. EO is used for higher concentration brews. Higher concentrations will have more pip regardless, but people think it’s the EO that’s giving them the PIP.

No @penche , its the oil .
Google Ethyl Oleate and you"ll find many complaints and bad reactions . My doses were never high but I can tell within a week if there is any EO in my gear . Bad itching allover and it only gets worse as time passes . We might have been all created equal , but not internally . Call it hypersensitivity or just bad chemistry but it is very real in alot of people Ive talked to....
 
No @penche , its the oil .
Google Ethyl Oleate and you"ll find many complaints and bad reactions . My doses were never high but I can tell within a week if there is any EO in my gear . Bad itching allover and it only gets worse as time passes . We might have been all created equal , but not internally . Call it hypersensitivity or just bad chemistry but it is very real in alot of people Ive talked to....
So your against EO or for it my dude? I’ve never been a fan as I’ve brewed most of all compounds without it. Even DHB at 107 and it was very tolerable.
 
So your against EO or for it my dude? I’ve never been a fan as I’ve brewed most of all compounds without it. Even DHB at 107 and it was very tolerable.

Most definitely against EO , for me at least . Another article I read said around 20% (or 1 out 5) are allergic to EO .

If you try enough different AAS or even legal medications you"ll find the ones that will bite you . But not everyone ;)
 
Everyone must be different. When I first started using anabolics in 2014 one of the biggest brands had very thin oil. I loved it and seen someone mention it was made with eo...I like 50/50 mct/eo in most compounds but test e 300mg and eq 400mg I like 100% eo with 1% ba and no bb. I get zero pip from that and it’s very thin. Always use test as a base with other compounds. Test is very this the 50/50 eo/mct blends are still thin just not as much. This makes it a breeze with 25g. The eq at 400 is thick but no pip still with 100% eo. I love the stuff. It has taken me along time of trying different things to find out what I like best and to me this is it. Like I said though everyone is different.
 
Is it true that it destroys rubber plugs, if i use silicone is it safe?

If it's in constant contact, it would likely degrade the rubber.
Then again, the ba/bb found in non EO gear could do the same, that's why it's not recommended to preload syringes that are going to sit for any considerable length of time.

If you're using EO as your carrier, make sure your vials are stored in an upright position and don't get too carried away on filling them to the brim. That way the bottom of the stoppers on your stored vials aren't sitting in EO for prolonged periods.
 
If it's in constant contact, it would likely degrade the rubber.
Then again, the ba/bb found in non EO gear could do the same, that's why it's not recommended to preload syringes that are going to sit for any considerable length of time.

If you're using EO as your carrier, make sure your vials are stored in an upright position and don't get too carried away on filling them to the brim. That way the bottom of the stoppers on your stored vials aren't sitting in EO for prolonged periods.
I store my substance on the side, like the vial is laying down, its just EQ/ba/bb no oil. Would the ba and bb degrade the stopper? Only stored for 30 weeks tops.
 
I store my substance on the side, like the vial is laying down, its just EQ/ba/bb no oil. Would the ba and bb degrade the stopper? Only stored for 30 weeks tops.

To be safe, i would stand it up. Not exactly sure how the ba and bb would effect it, but i can't imagine that it would be completely harmless after that long of a period.
 
I store my substance on the side, like the vial is laying down, its just EQ/ba/bb no oil. Would the ba and bb degrade the stopper? Only stored for 30 weeks tops.
I have no idea what chemical is responsible for degrading stoppers, but I have had this happen when I left two bottles of tren a on their side for 8-10 months. Now I make sure all my gear isn't in constant contact with the stopper.
 
I have no idea what chemical is responsible for degrading stoppers, but I have had this happen when I left two bottles of tren a on their side for 8-10 months. Now I make sure all my gear isn't in constant contact with the stopper.

It's the oil.
 
Dam. I cant really keep them up right because someone would find easily. I get my own place soon. I have a good spot to store them now I need to relocate soon.
 
I don’t like eo because even in the glutes it gives me softball size pip. Some people can’t handle mig as a carrier oil either but it’s the best of both worlds for me. Thin viscosity and I don’t get pip from mig.
 
Hi there, I use GSO + EO 50/50 and I like it, why are there many against EO?

If it works for you keep using it. I stay away from that stuff.

Some people (me included) are against it because there is no need to use it. Higher concentration gear can crystallize in the muscle which will lead to an abscess.

Some people are allergic to it (if you're allergic to aspirin stay away from this stuff).

Yes it dissolves butyl rubber stoppers.

It also works as an local analgesic, which is NOT good.
 

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