ruckin
Well-known Member
I'm brainstorming a little so just hear me out here please...
I understand why we wait 5-6 weeks to take bloods to see where test levels are, but obviously the problem with this method is that if you wait 6 weeks into your cycle to find out that your testosterone is shit, you've wasted well over a month that you could have spent fixing the problem.
I get that we're trying to read PEAK test levels by doing this, but think about this: if we had data of pharma grade test levels only one week (or hell, even 2 weeks) into a cycle, couldn't we use those data as a standard for what properly dosed gear should show up as in blood tests at that point?
For example: let's say I'm using 500 mg/wk test cyp. 5-6 weeks in, my test levels will be 5000 ng/dl (I know that would be the upper limit, but remember this is just an example). BUT, if I had also taken bloods, just 1 week after my first pin (maybe it could be 24-48 hrs after the 2nd pin if pinning once/wk, or 3rd pin if pinning twice/wk?), maybe my levels would come back as, lets say 2500 ng/dl (IDK what it would be exactly, that's the point of this idea, to find out). If this were the case, then we'd know that just over 1 week in, my test is properly dosed if I'm at 2500, to know for future reference.
So, if I know that my levels are supposed to be "5x" (just to go along with the example above), at 1 week in, and they come back at only "2x", I can somewhat safely assume that the gear I'm using is approximately 40%-dosed, just like the community currently does with the "8-10x rule" after 5-6 weeks.
Just as a reminder, I just made up all of the numbers I used in that example. Finding what those numbers would actually be in real life would be the objective here.
Sorry in advance if I could have worded this better, it's late and this idea only just popped in my head a few minutes ago so I'm still trying to think.
Thoughts?
I understand why we wait 5-6 weeks to take bloods to see where test levels are, but obviously the problem with this method is that if you wait 6 weeks into your cycle to find out that your testosterone is shit, you've wasted well over a month that you could have spent fixing the problem.
I get that we're trying to read PEAK test levels by doing this, but think about this: if we had data of pharma grade test levels only one week (or hell, even 2 weeks) into a cycle, couldn't we use those data as a standard for what properly dosed gear should show up as in blood tests at that point?
For example: let's say I'm using 500 mg/wk test cyp. 5-6 weeks in, my test levels will be 5000 ng/dl (I know that would be the upper limit, but remember this is just an example). BUT, if I had also taken bloods, just 1 week after my first pin (maybe it could be 24-48 hrs after the 2nd pin if pinning once/wk, or 3rd pin if pinning twice/wk?), maybe my levels would come back as, lets say 2500 ng/dl (IDK what it would be exactly, that's the point of this idea, to find out). If this were the case, then we'd know that just over 1 week in, my test is properly dosed if I'm at 2500, to know for future reference.
So, if I know that my levels are supposed to be "5x" (just to go along with the example above), at 1 week in, and they come back at only "2x", I can somewhat safely assume that the gear I'm using is approximately 40%-dosed, just like the community currently does with the "8-10x rule" after 5-6 weeks.
Just as a reminder, I just made up all of the numbers I used in that example. Finding what those numbers would actually be in real life would be the objective here.
Sorry in advance if I could have worded this better, it's late and this idea only just popped in my head a few minutes ago so I'm still trying to think.
Thoughts?
