Why is there a Masteron and Anavar shortage?

[BeyondRawGoon]

I’ve noticed my source has started to have one hell of time getting the raws for these two compounds. He said he didn’t know when they’d be back. Is something I should worry about? Are they gonna be low forever? Or worse out of stock forever?

 

[Connor 25257]

Lmfao. I would be the one to answer this, but every time I speak the truth on this subject without “sugar coating” it all I hear is “don’t listen to Connor” so here’s my advice: go look in the forum as their is already a question that relates to the one you have asked. My second piece of advice is be prepared to be running nothing in a few years time. And or be prepared for less than acceptable quality of raws. Most raws are made in China. Some are probably made in India now. But China is supposedly changing some of their rules and regulations when it comes to AAS in the near future. Even after it all moves to India that won’t last long either as they too will change their regulations and rules. Ever since Covid, countless countries have been focused on a better, cleaner environment.

 

[Liska]

This has been discussed in various threads tangentially (the PPL thread is one of the better ones to read manga-style/backwards) but some raws (Drostanolone, Oxandrolone, Mesterolone, Oxymetholone most prominently but not exclusively) were banned from being produced earlier this year and enough sources have independently cited environmental/pollution laws to be the reason that it's most likely true, though it ultimately doesn't matter for our ends.

Masteron has been back in production for a while and is currently on the 3rd batch at most factories I believe, possibly the 4th at some but labs are still so hungry that these are being preordered and thus sell out quickly until supply catches up with demand. Oxymetholone and Oxandrolone are constantly rumoured to be 'available soon'. The latest news is Oxymetholone being back early next month, with even sources that are usually careful about overpromising finally accepting preorders, which isn't the case for Oxandrolone so far.

Mesterolone (Proviron) is the one you hear no positive news about at all from China; I wholeheartedly suggest following my favourite zombie idol Ollie on his adventure:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/purplepandalabs-raw-source.134383828/page-2079#post-2815169

None of these raws are going to be unavailable forever but as the lion's share goes to the biggest cats/pockets first, it may take all year to return back to the prices you're used to as a homebrewer.

Hope this helps and I hope posters more knowledgeable than me like @Iron_Yuppie can correct any mistakes I've made.

 

[dennia]

Lmfao. I would be the one to answer this, but every time I speak the truth on this subject without “sugar coating” it all I hear is “don’t listen to Connor” so here’s my advice: go look in the forum as their is already a question that relates to the one you have asked. My second piece of advice is be prepared to be running nothing in a few years time. And or be prepared for less than acceptable quality of raws. Most raws are made in China. Some are probably made in India now. But China is supposedly changing some of their rules and regulations when it comes to AAS in the near future. Even after it all moves to India that won’t last long either as they too will change their regulations and rules. Ever since Covid, countless countries have been focused on a better, cleaner environment.

You speak shit not the truth

 

[Liska]

You speak shit not the truth

Most important post on this topic imaginable.

 

[dennia]

Most important post on this topic imaginable.

Had explained to that guy me and another members as well and the guy seems like he is paranoid that he will remain without steroids forever. You just can't make him understand

 

[BeyondRawGoon]

This has been discussed in various threads tangentially (the PPL thread is one of the better ones to read manga-style/backwards) but some raws (Drostanolone, Oxandrolone, Mesterolone, Oxymetholone most prominently but not exclusively) were banned from being produced earlier this year and enough sources have independently cited environmental/pollution laws to be the reason that it's most likely true, though it ultimately doesn't matter for our ends.

Masteron has been back in production for a while and is currently on the 3rd batch at most factories I believe, possibly the 4th at some but labs are still so hungry that these are being preordered and thus sell out quickly until supply catches up with demand. Oxymetholone and Oxandrolone are constantly rumoured to be 'available soon'. The latest news is Oxymetholone being back early next month, with even sources that are usually careful about overpromising finally accepting preorders, which isn't the case for Oxandrolone so far.

Mesterolone (Proviron) is the one you hear no positive news about at all from China; I wholeheartedly suggest following my favourite zombie idol Ollie on his adventure:

https://thinksteroids.com/community/threads/purplepandalabs-raw-source.134383828/page-2079#post-2815169

None of these raws are going to be unavailable forever but as the lion's share goes to the biggest cats/pockets first, it may take all year to return back to the prices you're used to as a homebrewer.

Hope this helps and I hope posters more knowledgeable than me like @Iron_Yuppie can correct any mistakes I've made.

Oh. That’s confusing. I guess it’s good to know they won’t be gone gone. I’m sure I’ll have to spit up a few more dollars for my gear but it is what it is. Maybe it will go back down

 

[Hollow123]

Lmfao. I would be the one to answer this, but every time I speak the truth on this subject without “sugar coating” it all I hear is “don’t listen to Connor” so here’s my advice: go look in the forum as their is already a question that relates to the one you have asked. My second piece of advice is be prepared to be running nothing in a few years time. And or be prepared for less than acceptable quality of raws. Most raws are made in China. Some are probably made in India now. But China is supposedly changing some of their rules and regulations when it comes to AAS in the near future. Even after it all moves to India that won’t last long either as they too will change their regulations and rules. Ever since Covid, countless countries have been focused on a better, cleaner environment.

Retard

 

[Connor 25257]

Retard

No. What’s “retarted” Is thinking that underground steroids are going to have a leg to stand on soon. I’m a little confused, yet concerned as to why so many people are conceded when it comes to this. At this point, I’ll honestly just sit back and wait. Then when the time is right, I’ll just sit back and have a good laugh when UGL guys are complaining about poor raws quality, not being able to get most of the compounds they want, and when they’re pinning straight oil or just an extremely underdosed product.

 

[Liska]

At this point, I’ll honestly just sit back and wait.

Could you sit back far enough to be unable to reach the keyboard please

 

[lifter6973]

Lmfao. I would be the one to answer this, but every time I speak the truth on this subject without “sugar coating” it all I hear is “don’t listen to Connor” so here’s my advice: go look in the forum as their is already a question that relates to the one you have asked. My second piece of advice is be prepared to be running nothing in a few years time. And or be prepared for less than acceptable quality of raws. Most raws are made in China. Some are probably made in India now. But China is supposedly changing some of their rules and regulations when it comes to AAS in the near future. Even after it all moves to India that won’t last long either as they too will change their regulations and rules. Ever since Covid, countless countries have been focused on a better, cleaner environment.

FFS I'm starting to believe you are retarded.

 

[EazyE]

Remember back in 2019 when the Chinese said that as of January 2020 all raw AAS production would cease in response to pressure about doping and PED use by the IOC and anti-doping regulators? They never followed through on that. Chinese officials look the other way when it comes to business and it’s economy. Nothing will change. Maybe a few more layers of red tape but AAS raw production will continue.

 

[BigBaldBeardGuy]

No. What’s “retarted” Is thinking that underground steroids are going to have a leg to stand on soon. I’m a little confused, yet concerned as to why so many people are conceded when it comes to this. At this point, I’ll honestly just sit back and wait. Then when the time is right, I’ll just sit back and have a good laugh when UGL guys are complaining about poor raws quality, not being able to get most of the compounds they want, and when they’re pinning straight oil or just an extremely underdosed product.

When the time is right and if it ends up that way you can have your laugh.

In the meantime we’re all sitting here laughing at you.

Where do you think compounding pharmacies around the world get their raws? Do you think the factories in China solely serve the black market only?

 

[Test_Subject]

Remember back in 2019 when the Chinese said that as of January 2020 all raw AAS production would cease in response to pressure about doping and PED use by the IOC and anti-doping regulators? They never followed through on that. Chinese officials look the other way when it comes to business and it’s economy. Nothing will change. Maybe a few more layers of red tape but AAS raw production will continue.

If not, you’d better believe that some other country with lax manufacturing oversight will take over production.

There’s too much money to be made with AAS raws for them to go off the market.

 

[EazyE]

And if there are concerns with the pipeline shutting down, then talk to your source and stock up appropriately. I am sure the shelf life of oils that are properly prepared would last at least 5 years in storage, probably more. Likely up to 8-10 years.

 

[EazyE]

If not, you’d better believe that some other country with lax manufacturing oversight will take over production.

There’s too much money to be made with AAS raws for them to go off the market.

Totally agree. If there is a market for the product someone will make them. Basic supply and demand.

 

[Connor 25257]

Totally agree. If there is a market for the product someone will make them. Basic supply and demand.

Honest question. Let’s say all countries do outlaw the production of raws. Then how tf are they going to make them? Basement brewing? Setting themselves up to be caught by LE with ease? All drugs have a demand. That doesn’t mean the supply is worth a damn. You think just because their is a demand for cocaine that Pablo down in South Beach is selling 98%+ pure cocaine? Fuck no. Maybe 89; that’s if you’re lucky. Same will happen with anabolics in my opinion. But whatever. All good things come to an end

 

[Meterman05]

. My second piece of advice is be prepared to be running nothing in a few years time. And or be prepared for less than acceptable quality of raws.

Let’s say all countries do outlaw the production of raws. Then how tf are they going to make them?

Okay he we go again. Instead of calling you names I will try to keep this civilized. What INFORMATION are you basing these assumptions on?

When the current shortage started happening everyone was freaking out because nothing was coming out about why. Finally multiple raw sources said the same thing. The compounds that were out of stock were because of new environmental laws due to the manufacturer of those compounds causing more toxic chemicals as a byproduct. The production of every other raw didn't skip a beat and have had absolutely no supply or purity issues.

So again what tangible information do you have or where have you heard that countries are going to outlaw the production of all compounds? Not a hunch of yours some actual proof. Again multiple raw sources said the same thing with regards to the current shortage of certain raws.

You are constantly on this doomsday scenario. If it's your gut feeling it's going to go south then fine have your I told you so moment when it happens. In the mean time stop posting in every thread that all raws are going away or the quality is going to shit until you can provide some proof or even a source that has heard that rumor.

It's almost as if you love drama with your start here about all clearnet sources being shit. Which you finally ate a shit sandwich and admitted you were wrong after being so adamant you were right.

 

[Mcflyfast]

@Millard can we get your permission from all of us to ban @Connor 25257 ? The amount of non sense he speaks is giving all of us a headache, and serves absolutely no value to Meso.

Only so much we can handle throwing opinions of non sense he has no idea about. Referencing sales of hard drugs to AAS and such...

I think many of us told him what's going on and he continues to respond pratically in every thread that AAS will magically disappear.

We can't chaperone a 19 year teen with an avatar looking like a Hollister model much longer.

 

[EazyE]

Honest question. Let’s say all countries do outlaw the production of raws. Then how tf are they going to make them? Basement brewing? Setting themselves up to be caught by LE with ease? All drugs have a demand. That doesn’t mean the supply is worth a damn. You think just because their is a demand for cocaine that Pablo down in South Beach is selling 98%+ pure cocaine? Fuck no. Maybe 89; that’s if you’re lucky. Same will happen with anabolics in my opinion. But whatever. All good things come to an end

You will never get these countries to stop all production. What they agree to do and what they actually do are two different things.